i would just like to know if there is a difference between controlled journey and astral projection. the controlled journey im talking about is the one a shaman would take by i think focusing on area and then as you would normally interact when wake conscience you would then interact from that point onwards as i did once.
my focus journey as i followed the steps in my shaman book:
i was focusing on a nice green grassy place with a huge tree over me. after a while i suddenly was there on my back on the grass looking upwards. it was raining nicely. they rain stopped and i called out for my animal guide to show it self. a white wolf appeared with yellow eyes and introduced it self as Kyla. i then shape-shifted into a wolf and ran after her and around. after that i started to draw energy from that place near the tree. then called out to meet up with the goddess. she also appeared very friendly and gave me a sphere which she told me to fill with all the crap i had inside me (like negative feelings) she then took the sphere from me which wall by then all spiky and pitch black and threw it on the ground so it brakes. Then she gave me a another sphere full of white energy which i was then to let it fill and revitalize me. as i woke from this i did uberly felt good and ready for anything.
other question that i have is what happens when u gain total dream controll and it spins out totally different like this one i have other night:
i was downtown at India busy with one of a religious rite (cant remember which) and suddenly a shaman appeared in my dream. i followed him (which at this point was totally not in line of the dream. it felt like switching from one place to other) he then gave me a short staff which had the medicine wheel on it and then taught me a drum beat with the chant. i aslo asked him if i where a shaman in one of my precious lives which he answered yes to. then told me to thank the people that have help me along my journey in my wake state (in real life if want to call it that hehe) to the point i was now. he then disappeared and as he went away i asked what about Kyla (my animal guide) who then appeared as a young wolf who then in fact talked to me again. at this point i awoke from my dream.
anyways long post... :)
blessings,
Ruy
You never got around to thanking us :P
nice experience though
I asked my girlfriend about this, and she said there was a difference, but wouldn't go into what the differences are. Wish I could tell you more.
thanks for replys...
QuoteYou never got around to thanking us
and guidance. which i should still do IRL.
blessings
ryu
Quote from: Ryuji on August 27, 2005, 16:45:03
i would just like to know if there is a difference between controlled journey and astral projection. the controlled journey im talking about is the one a shaman would take by i think focusing on area and then as you would normally interact when wake conscience you would then interact from that point onwards as i did once.
I know this topic is pretty old but I have had the same question. Has anyone seen anything on how what shamans experience in their journeys (lower world, middle world, upper world, etc.) relate to the focus states mentioned by Robert Monroe and others (F-10, F-27, etc)?
DH