Do you get any warning?

[Astralsuzy]

Hi all, do you get any warning before you ap?  Usually before I ap my forehead feels relaxed and I know that I am about to ap.  Lately I do not think that has been happening.  I am not getting any signs.  I am lying down breathing in and out and the next moment I am dreaming about something.  This happened twice this morning.  I think I better start looking around my eyes when my eyes are closed so I can look for any signs that I am about to ap.  What do you think?  Is this how it is with you?  Thanks for your replies.

[Bedeekin]

I know I am going to get a full SP induced experience when I close my eyes. It feels like there is a black deep space in front of my eyes rather than just blackness. Also the feeling of the space can be described as being massive and small simultaneously. There are other indications but that's the main one.

[Szaxx]

I get really loud noises and sometimes a feeling of being on a high ledge in a massive black cavern. Shouting too, I have learned to ignore it, its quite harmless.

[roman67]

I get really loud noises and sometimes a feeling of being on a high ledge in a massive black cavern. Shouting too, I have learned to ignore it, its quite harmless.

Exactly, I also used to avoid it.

[Astralsuzy]

A lot of times I do get warnings.  It is very obvious.  Occasionally I do not seem to get any warning.  One moment I am lying down and the next moment I am dreaming about something.  To increase my chances to ap I will make an effort to see if I notice anything when my eyes are closed.

[Lookedynamixhales]

I normally get "Phantom limbs" and vivid visualizations

[Contenteo]

It feels like there is a black deep space in front of my eyes rather than just blackness

Yeah, a black deep space that you intuitively can just lash out and grab onto. Then the AP starts.

There are other ways and indicators, but that one I have experienced numerous times. That's definitely the main one.

I always feel like the shape of that black deep space you can grab onto is an equilateral triangle. That has been oddly consistent. Anyone else?

Cheers,
Contenteo

[Lionheart]

 Sometimes I think that Dark Rift/Black Void, (whatever you wish to call it),  is a 100 foot wide doorway between here and there. Once you pass it, you are there.

Kind of like a Neutral Zone of sorts.

[Szaxx]

It was used 100 years or so ago to prevent all the have a go hero's from attempting an exit. You'd be stuck in the void and never return, followed by your body being occupied by demons and such.
Scare mongering so you joined the clan.
I'll not mention names as the history books shine a light on this method of deceit.
Its utter nonsense, all of it.
Enjoy the tranquility of the void if you're able.

[justin35ll]

I usually hear vibrations or other noises like music, a sinking feeling, or I enter a black void

[Astralsuzy]

I was thinking lately.  Perhaps I do get a warning.  It may only be a slight warning and I am not concentrating at that moment so I fall asleep. 

[Bedeekin]

Oh... warning as in the beginning of entering sleep paralysis. I thought you meant a warning that you were going to have it that night... or an indication.

Thinking about it.. 'warning' is a funny choice of word. 

[Dreamshards]

I feel like I'm falling. It is a slow sensation of gravity pulling me down. It feels quite good actually.

[Astralsuzy]

I suppose I should have had a heading, do you get any vibrations instead of the other heading? 
If I do not get any noticeable vibrations, I realise I get a slight vibration.  I have to notice when my mind is starting to go into a dream or it feels more relaxed than normal.  This morning I noticed that my mind was getting more relaxed and I let my whole self relax as well.  I was going to some place but I could hear my husband breathing.  I got distracted so I woke up.  I am going to try to ap in another room tonight or morning so I will not get the distractions.

[laerrus]

It was used 100 years or so ago to prevent all the have a go hero's from attempting an exit. You'd be stuck in the void and never return, followed by your body being occupied by demons and such.
Scare mongering so you joined the clan.
I'll not mention names as the history books shine a light on this method of deceit.
Its utter nonsense, all of it.
Enjoy the tranquility of the void if you're able.

Can you explain this further please.

[Szaxx]

Which part?
The join our clique or the deadly void?

[laerrus]

Which part?
The join our clique or the deadly void?

It was used 100 years or so ago to prevent all the have a go hero's from attempting an exit. You'd be stuck in the void and never return, followed by your body being occupied by demons and such.

I'll not mention names as the history books shine a light on this method of deceit.

I am not familiar with any of this "History."

[Szaxx]

Ok.
H P Blavatsky.
Bishop
Washington
Irving
C W Leadbeater
A W Besant
A P Sinnet
All above have books on this subject and some were members of the theosophical society.
Dates ranging fron 1870 to 1920.
Get a basic history of these people through searcing the net. Some are telling the world this art as it was understood in their times. Others had a motive to gain control and you'll find out the deviant ways they joined forces to their personal gain. The mentioned society was disbanded due to historic records of an uncanny deciet.
In this a religious belief system was utilised adding the fear factor of demons which had been indoctrinated for thousands of years.
Sly and cunning but doomed from the start. You joined their clique, paid your dues or satan would enslay you was basically utilised.

It's all nonsense and deliberate deciet. Unfortunately today its evil echoes still and invokes unnecessary fear into this art.
If you need more info it could fill a thousand pages. Enjoy searching and understanding where we are today against this foul beginning.
One bad apple and the rest...