Can You See Other People?

[Cereal-N-Milk]

Hey all. Im new to Astral Projection, acually I havent even had one yet, Ive been trying to though, I just downloaded "Boxed Nirvana" and it made me sleepy as I was listening to it, so im gonan try that later tonight and try to OBE. But i was just wondering, can you see other people on the astral plane?

[Stevo]

Hello, and welcome. As you are new, I will give you what I consider the best advice for those not yet accustomed to this kind of thing.

QUESTION EVERYTHING. Never accept what anyone says until you question it for yourself. Literally nothing.

On to your question! Yes. You can do literally whatever you want. You cannot get hurt, you cannot die, you can see anyone, anywhere, any way. Heck, you don't even have to see them. Sight is a habbit. You could feel them, sense them, be them. Just depends what you want to do.

A big note. Projection does not equal sleepy. Projection equals alert. Just a different kind of alert.

When you try meditative stuff, the idea isn't to fall asleep, or to do some amasing wicca ritual. The idea is to concentrate away from here. Your body, where you are, what you're doing, should all be the last thing on your mind. The key for any deep progress is to concentrate so deeply on something else, that you don't think about being in bed, or on the couch, or even really trying. That's why it's so tricky.

So remember, getting sleepy isn't going to help. In fact, it's better to be completely awake. You're more likely to achieve anything in the middle of the day than when you go to bed. If you are going to listen to anything, listen to anything without repitition, and with no beat. That'd be the safest thing.

[xxshimmerxx]

Hey all. Im new to Astral Projection, acually I havent even had one yet, Ive been trying to though, I just downloaded "Boxed Nirvana" and it made me sleepy as I was listening to it, so im gonan try that later tonight and try to OBE. But i was just wondering, can you see other people on the astral plane?

You can definately meet people in the astral plane.
I can only remember two OBEs that I've had.... and in one of them I remember flying around my block. I saw these 2 guys playing catch with a football so I stood in front of one of them and started jumping around waving my arms wondering if he's noticing me. >_< He looked at me like I was a lunatic and continued playing catch. Heh.... I guess that answered my question of whether he saw me or not. =P

Good luck! Keep practicing! It took me several tries to actually achieve getting out of my body.  It also happens when you don't realize it's happening.

[Gimble]

QUESTION EVERYTHING. Never accept what anyone says until you question it for yourself. Literally nothing.

You just shot yourself Stevo  :combust:



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On a more serious note, Cereal...

That is probually the best advice you can recieve regarding subjects like this...OH, and beware of people who claim that DBZ (and other cartoon inspired) moves/special abbilities/ attacks/skills Are possible in real life.

And, learn to relax your body, not just listen to a song.

Search sites for  muscle relaxation etc...

OBE's require body asleep/ mind awake, therefore feeling sleepy is NOT a good thing, but feeling alert while you cant feel your body anymore is a good thing

Good luck

[Jazket]

QUESTION EVERYTHING. Never accept what anyone says until you question it for yourself. Literally nothing.

This is the first step to follow into the Spiritual World.

Simply the best advice you can get so far.

[lkjewr]

You can definately meet people in the astral plane.
I can only remember two OBEs that I've had.... and in one of them I remember flying around my block. I saw these 2 guys playing catch with a football so I stood in front of one of them and started jumping around waving my arms wondering if he's noticing me. >_< He looked at me like I was a lunatic and continued playing catch. Heh.... I guess that answered my question of whether he saw me or not. =P

Hey xxshimmerxx. Thank you for sharing.

Would you please detail this experience where you flew around the book, and saw two guys, and one saw you?? How did you leave the body? What was the separation experience like: vibes, imagery, heart sensations, nothing, during sleep, spontaneous?? How did your nonphysical state feel: just like physical, airy??

Please answer in as much detail as possible. I'm really trying to learn any differences, if there are any, between OBEs that are verified, and those that seem dreamy.

[xxshimmerxx]

You can definately meet people in the astral plane.
I can only remember two OBEs that I've had.... and in one of them I remember flying around my block. I saw these 2 guys playing catch with a football so I stood in front of one of them and started jumping around waving my arms wondering if he's noticing me. >_< He looked at me like I was a lunatic and continued playing catch. Heh.... I guess that answered my question of whether he saw me or not. =P

Hey xxshimmerxx. Thank you for sharing.

Would you please detail this experience where you flew around the book, and saw two guys, and one saw you?? How did you leave the body? What was the separation experience like: vibes, imagery, heart sensations, nothing, during sleep, spontaneous?? How did your nonphysical state feel: just like physical, airy??

Please answer in as much detail as possible. I'm really trying to learn any differences, if there are any, between OBEs that are verified, and those that seem dreamy.

^_^

Okay well, I don't remember leaving the body, I just remember myself standing next to my bed facing my window. Emediately I thought "I MUST be having an OBE!!!" So I decided to stick my hand through my glass window, and it went through. It felt similar to dipping your hand in water.  Then I decided to get my whole body through. (I live in an apartment so I was on the third floor) After that, I  jumped out and flew.  All I did pretty much was just fly around the streets, up and down... so on. I thought to try and get to the moon,  but I wasn't confident enough so I continued flying over roofs of houses, and cars.  The only wierd thing about the flying part was that I couldn't lavitate. I had to "swim" through the air as I would under water. It was weird and I couldn't understand why it was like this.  Anyway, I noticed two guys below me. I forgot what one of them looked like, but the other had kind of long'ish curly hair and he was tall, about 6'3. He was wearing a grey shirt and black pants. He seemed so concentrated on playing catch wit ht he football, I didn't think he saw me. So I stood in front of him, and jumped up and down waving my arms saying "HI!!" (Yes, I'm weird...) well obviously he noticed me because he stopped playing, looked at me like I'm crazy, and continued playing.  I remember my body felt like it did in the physical. I didn't really pay attention too much on how my body felt though, I was too focused on flying around. =P

I can't remember anything else, because it was about a month ago. What I've noticed from  my OBE  is that right when I wake up from it, I'm SO SURE it was real because it felt so real... but after a few days I start doubting because i sort of forget the feeling.

This experience was either an OBE, or a very realistic lucid dream.

[Stevo]

Gimble:

Guess what! You can't take my word either. I did actually have your concept in mind. I find myself quite the teacher-type, and one time when I did mention that, I had a little thought if someone asked if they should trust my word. The reality is, no.  Not me, not anyone can you take the word of until you find out for yourself.

Mainly because something that could be right for me and a half million other people might not be right for another half million. In the world of the mind, there is no right or wrong. Just preference.

[lkjewr]

^_^

Okay well, I don't remember leaving the body, I just remember myself standing next to my bed facing my window. Emediately I thought "I MUST be having an OBE!!!" So I decided to stick my hand through my glass window, and it went through. It felt similar to dipping your hand in water.  Then I decided to get my whole body through. (I live in an apartment so I was on the third floor) After that, I  jumped out and flew.  All I did pretty much was just fly around the streets, up and down... so on. I thought to try and get to the moon,  but I wasn't confident enough so I continued flying over roofs of houses, and cars.  The only wierd thing about the flying part was that I couldn't lavitate. I had to "swim" through the air as I would under water. It was weird and I couldn't understand why it was like this.  Anyway, I noticed two guys below me. I forgot what one of them looked like, but the other had kind of long'ish curly hair and he was tall, about 6'3. He was wearing a grey shirt and black pants. He seemed so concentrated on playing catch wit ht he football, I didn't think he saw me. So I stood in front of him, and jumped up and down waving my arms saying "HI!!" (Yes, I'm weird...) well obviously he noticed me because he stopped playing, looked at me like I'm crazy, and continued playing.  I remember my body felt like it did in the physical. I didn't really pay attention too much on how my body felt though, I was too focused on flying around. =P

I can't remember anything else, because it was about a month ago. What I've noticed from  my OBE  is that right when I wake up from it, I'm SO SURE it was real because it felt so real... but after a few days I start doubting because i sort of forget the feeling.

This experience was either an OBE, or a very realistic lucid dream.

Exceedingly thank you for your detailed response xxshimmerxx. I understand more clearly now.

Some info for you, I've read in a book entitled Wisdom of the Mystic Masters of a guy having to swim to fly, rather than flying- swimming through the air. Rather supports your experience as OBE rather than lucid dream. I'd really keep good journals if I were you, very soon after the experience. It would add up to some ability to decipher what is what for you.



Cheers!!

[xxshimmerxx]

Exceedingly thank you for your detailed response xxshimmerxx. I understand more clearly now.

Some info for you, I've read in a book entitled Wisdom of the Mystic Masters of a guy having to swim to fly, rather than flying- swimming through the air. Rather supports your experience as OBE rather than lucid dream. I'd really keep good journals if I were you, very soon after the experience. It would add up to some ability to decipher what is what for you.



Cheers!!

Thank you! ^_^ Wow, I thought I was the only one swim flying. Well if that really means that I was having an OBE... gosh I must have had at least 10 swim flying dreams. I guess they were OBEs too! O.O Thank you for pointing that out. =]