Does what you eat and how much you eat affect your ability to project? If so what to eat/not eat/how much etc?
Food doesn't affects your ability to project but caffeine, alcohol and cigarette affects in projecting.
If you eat too much food and you are feeling uncomfortable, it mostly likely be a lot harder to ap. If I feel I am getting a stomach ache or if I am feeling full, I will not try to ap. I do not smoke or drink alcohol so I am not able to comment if it would make ap harder. I drink tea, coffee and hot chocolate every day. I hope that would not make ap harder. I could be wrong but I do not think it would. I do not drink excessive amounts of drinks.
If you're sensitive in the foods you eat the discomfort or reactions can affect you. These effects you'd alredy know of as sleep problems will be known to you already.
Supplements that are known to directly affect you are not included.
I find no problem with coffee or smoking either and never have.
Excess caffeine messes with your heart rhythm and should be avoided anytime.
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I am glad you do not have a problem with drinking coffee Szaxx. I drink two small cups of weak coffee everyday. I like my coffee and I would not like to give it up. I also have a hot chocolate milk drink every day but not on hot days. When the weather is hot I drink a banana milkshake instead.
Yummy!
Thanks for all the replies, I wont worry about it too much then ; )
Personally I find it affects me quite a lot. When I fast for a few days I get visuals as soon as I close my eyes at night. Very interesting but not a long term solution. Tom Campbell talks about how certain foods lower our vibrations (things like red meats).
Nothing you can "consume" will lower your vibrations.
Only the choices you make in your day-to-day interactions with others will do that. That means giving into Fear.
Any choice based upon Love will always be the right choice in regards to spiritual growth.
As for Projecting...
Basically, anything that will keep you from sleeping normally will cause a problem with Projecting. There's really not much more to it.
Being too full...
Being too hungry...
Being too thirsty...
Having too much stress...
These are all factors which can effect your sleep and your ability to project.
Thank you for all the replies Xanth, very helpful ; )
Yeah, i don't think it affects you, i don't drink much coffee, but i do smoke and it didn't make a difference to my AP
Cmon, it must have an effect. After all isn't fasting considered a valid OBE technique? Eating supposedly grounds you more in the physical. A lack of food weakens the veil as they say.
An experiment.
Foods were mostly removed so ate little. Sugar intake through the roof I had around 1/2 lb of the stuff and with that around 3 pints of average coffee sweetened heavily.
As the body absorbs liquids and sugars readily I spread this throughout the day. I had a few hours of sleep the prior night.
This concoction should have rendered my chances near zero.
It had no detrimental effect at all. I had a somewhat lucid dream where a 007 type of chase for a USB stick.....I being Bond. This ended in the Bond way with a beutiful female. Such dreams are rare in female detail :wink: one in two years on average.
The food myth is busted.
Sugar feeds the brain and being fully hydrated keeps you wide awake.
The experiment may be done again, I enjoyed the magic. :evil:
Quote from: Little Bibble on June 24, 2013, 04:40:48
Cmon, it must have an effect. After all isn't fasting considered a valid OBE technique? Eating supposedly grounds you more in the physical. A lack of food weakens the veil as they say.
Years ago I spoke to someone about this. He said he fasted and it did not work. He then did not drink water and that did not work as well. I think it is not good to be hungry or thirsty. If you are comfortable you have a higher chance to ap. That is my opinion.
Quote from: Szaxx on June 24, 2013, 07:51:20
An experiment.
Foods were mostly removed so ate little. Sugar intake through the roof I had around 1/2 lb of the stuff and with that around 3 pints of average coffee sweetened heavily.
As the body absorbs liquids and sugars readily I spread this throughout the day. I had a few hours of sleep the prior night.
This concoction should have rendered my chances near zero.
It had no detrimental effect at all. I had a somewhat lucid dream where a 007 type of chase for a USB stick.....I being Bond. This ended in the Bond way with a beutiful female. Such dreams are rare in female detail :wink: one in two years on average.
The food myth is busted.
Sugar feeds the brain and being fully hydrated keeps you wide awake.
The experiment may be done again, I enjoyed the magic. :evil:
Thanks for letting us know. I hope this will put peoples mind at rest.
Quote from: Little Bibble on June 24, 2013, 07:16:29
As a moderator I really don't think you should be stating things so matter of factly. Nobody really knows for sure. Contradicting me with your opinion is fine but to state something as fact on a consciousness forum is not right. Everyones path is their own and unique.
I just want to make something clear. I'm stating my
opinion, not a fact. If the reader takes what I say as fact, that is not only their choice... it's their loss. Completely.
And if someone doesn't (or can't) understand why that is their loss, that's just something I can't teach.
*NEVER* take anything you read anywhere as fact.
Back to my post...
What I speak of I speak about from direct experience. Don't believe me... don't disbelieve me either. Test it out for yourself.
Try to project or meditate after various episodes of eating, see how it effects you.
But what my experience has shown me is that, quite literally, nothing you consume will lower your vibrations. Only your attitude and choices can do that.
If that contradicts something you've said, and that upsets you... I highly suggest you ask yourself why you're becoming upset at something like this. I question myself like this quite often and I'm usually extremely surprised by what I find. A hint: most of the time, the answer has nothing to do with that person said, but the presumption of my own beliefs.
I agree with you Xanth, it is your opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Quote from: Xanth on June 24, 2013, 21:37:56
I just want to make something clear. I'm stating my opinion, not a fact. If the reader takes what I say as fact, that is not only their choice... it's their loss.
I appreciate your sentiment but perhaps what you should make more clear is your sentences. When you write...
"Nothing you can "consume" will lower your vibrations. Only the choices you make in your day-to-day interactions with others will do that."
...That does not sound like opinion. Perhaps if you add in, 'I think' or 'I believe'. Lets face it the way you phrased it sounds a trifle arrogant and all knowing. I'm sure it's not how you meant it but then may be that's something you need to address.
The only reason I'm harping on about it is because people look up to you as a mod and respect your comments so you should be more careful with wording them
Quote from: Astralsuzy on June 25, 2013, 05:03:44
I agree with you Xanth, it is your opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Yeah I agree as well but that's not my point is it. My point is his sentences are not clear whether he is offering opinion or purporting fact. No where in my statement do I say he is not entitled to an opinion do I? In fact, i write its fine him contradicting me with his opinion.
But I assume judging by your response you only read Xanths above response and none of mine. Case in point - Xanth, this is what I'm talking about. People take what mods say as gospel and disregard a lot of the rest. That is why it is important for you to be more clear on what you write.
Quote from: Little Bibble on June 25, 2013, 05:09:59
Yeah I agree as well but that's not my point is it. My point is his sentences are not clear whether he is offering opinion or purporting fact. No where in my statement do I say he is not entitled to an opinion do I?
OK I suppose he should have been clearer. I am sure Xanth meant well and was trying to do his best. We are not perfect. Everyone makes mistakes.
Quote from: Astralsuzy on June 25, 2013, 05:40:41
I am sure Xanth meant well and was trying to do his best.
I fully agree with you.
I have been thinking. This whole forum cannot be proven. There are no facts. It is peoples opinions and ideas. As this forum cannot be proven, I do not think Xanth should have to say this is my opinion. On this forum, everything we say is our opinion so it should not be any different for Xanth.
Interesting and I think I agree but (not wanting to be rude) ultimately irrelevant because the very fact that I misinterpreted Xanth means that the same could happen again to someone else. Someone who comes onto the forum afresh could quite easily misunderstand such comments.
Factually speaking I guess it's all a matter of opinion.
Let me just explain why I'm making a big deal of it - as we all know belief plays a big part of consciousness explorations. If we read something, even something misinterpreted, then you're affecting your explorations. I remember when I first started out I was on a forum where a thread talked about being careful of the dweller when you get out because it WILL be there. Sure enough it was for me. Then I read stuff that said if was simply a belief issue. Never saw the dweller again.
Simple misinformation hindered my early projection attempts. That's why transparency is important. Well to me anyway.
So if I said the only way to go OBE is through fasting is it transparent that it is just my opinion? Could people coming onto the forum deduce that was only my opinion or would a load of people start fasting because they took it as gospel? (that is assuming I had any respectability on this forum- which evidently I don't or if I did it is ever diminishing with my rant).
Going back nearly century Syvan Muldoon said in his book the projection of the astral body that illness had a great effect on his active chord area. Being fit and healthy it was upto 40 feet. When ill it was greatly reduced.
The intake of food being limited could have a similar effect.
It's practiced in many cultures and some use extracts to enhance the effect.
Supplements as we know do have an effect.
If you are wanting to know then experiment for yourself. I do continuously in hope someone benefits. I never use supplements and never will intentionally.
The results of self experimentation speak volumes.
Try one.
Little Bibble, Please do not demean the importance of your contributions. If someone jumps on the beliefs of a mod as if they write the gospel, then like Xanth said, that is their loss. But it really isn't practical that we should always state that something is our opinion. Some people are on phones and such and any extra typing can be a chore.
The way I see it is if you believe something will be a factor, then it will be. I personally don't place a lot of thoughts in vibrations or such so what I eat doesn't play a role in my experiences in any way that I can tell.
But once we have been exposed to ideas, there really isn't any way to escape their influences other than to test them and disregard what doesn't personally fit. That's easier said then done, however.
Quote from: Little Bibble on June 25, 2013, 07:21:01
Interesting and I think I agree but (not wanting to be rude) ultimately irrelevant because the very fact that I misinterpreted Xanth means that the same could happen again to someone else. Someone who comes onto the forum afresh could quite easily misunderstand such comments.
Factually speaking I guess it's all a matter of opinion.
I can understand how you would feel. With this type of subject, ap, cannot be proven so there are no facts and no evidence. What you read on the internet or in ap books is their opinion and it can be a lot of rubbish or a bit of rubbish. That is the way it is.
Nobody should take anything anyone says as truth unless it resonates with what you believe no matter how it's written or said.
Quote from: Little Bibble on June 24, 2013, 04:40:48
Cmon, it must have an effect. After all isn't fasting considered a valid OBE technique? Eating supposedly grounds you more in the physical. A lack of food weakens the veil as they say.
I think fasting is considered a valid Buddhist technique for maintaining enlightenment... although.. they do live in mountains where there are less options. I think that's probably down to people thinking 'Eat what they eat'. It's a misconception or rather 'belief'.
I have never been affected by what I eat or drink apart from alcohol. I don't drink because it seems to directly inhibit the process.
I have had problems with my weight and went on starvation diets... almost to a problematic level.. it didn't change my OOBEs... I put weight on eating junk food... it didn't effect my projections.. I stopped smoking... it didn't effect my projections... I started again.. it didn't change my projections. On off doing this and that... over 30 years... it didn't effect my projections. the only thing that has effected my projections is when I thought things were effecting my projections.
The problem is that it seems 'right' that we should eat healthy to be able to reach full enlightenment or a high level of projection.. it makes sense to the logical, information overloaded modern mind and way of thinking> "Let's get back to grass roots to connect more with nature"... "no chemicals... chemicals are bad for you"... those things that contradict modern living must work because they are natural and made by nature right?
In the cold light of physical reality you are consuming vast quantities of substances that aren't controlled by your mouth and what you stuff down it. What you breath... absorb through your skin and unfortunately in this modern age it's what our brains are consuming that's more a problem. We are made up of complex chemicals and nucleonic actions that run the gamut of day to day life using chemicals that are actually deadly poisonous. You have certain quantities of arsenic in your body... natural... and needed... yet it's one of the most deadly toxins known to man. The amount of elements in your body is relative to those found on earth. H2O is the most common... then Carbon... right through all the elements until the last naturally occurring ones that are radioactive. The amount of radiation you give off is higher than the residual fallout over Sweden when the nuclear power station in Chernobyl exploded. Peoples pineal glands have been calcifying since it was discovered... it's how it was discovered... because it was hard.. like a stone. Our bodies are amazing complex and clever things. Much cleverer than you can second guess it to be. Stuffing a pizza or a twinkly into your gut will not interfere with projection... it will if you believe it will.
Quote from: Little Bibble on June 25, 2013, 07:21:01
Factually speaking I guess it's all a matter of opinion.
There's not a single thing that is said in this world that isn't just "an opinion". ;)
I know someone is going to call me out on that and point out an example... but then, that too, is just an opinion.
I'm not surprised that many people won't understand what I mean.
The term Opinion is over used. It now encompasses anything from a scientific claim repeated by a second party to a whimsical belief someone has regardless of how silly it sounds.
In my opinion that ravine can be jumped over and cleared... said by a world class free runner.
In my opinion that ravine can't be jumped over and cleared... said by a 300 pound world class sumo wrestler.
Both are professionals.. and both are right in their own class but both are also wrong because they forgot to say 'I can jump' or 'I can't jump'.
That's were opinions get muddled and confused.
In my opinion when I get up from this chair I won't get sucked into the carpet. I don't know this for absolute certainty... but repeated exposure to reality and the floor of my flat gives me the confidence that I will be right to have this opinion. No matter how many people say I will get sucked into the carpet they will all be wrong... completely wrong. Therefor my opinion is completely sound and part of YOUR truth. I think it's safe to say that where this subject is concerned.. informed and experienced opinion is just that... down to repeated experience. An opinion given that is simply read about and seems 'right' to the reader is redundant when set against the opinion of someone who is experienced in the matter through repeated experimentation.
Quote from: Little Bibble on June 25, 2013, 07:21:01
Factually speaking I guess it's all a matter of opinion.
Was kind of going for sarcasm when I wrote that oxymoronic sentence. Would have added a smiley but that would have negated the irony :lol:
Quote from: Little Bibble on June 26, 2013, 07:21:57
Was kind of going for sarcasm when I wrote that oxymoronic sentence. Would have added a smiley but that would have negated the irony :lol:
Joking or not, your statement was correct as far as I'm concerned. :)
Honestly?
I'm done belittling my own experiences by having to type "in my opinion" before anything I say.
My opinions aren't opinions to me, they're my truths. That's how I've experienced them... and that's how I teach them.
I'm not even sorry if that urks people... honestly, it's really not my problem if someone else gets upset over a personal truth I hold. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that I can't be held prisoner to other people's emotions.
If it wasn't clearn, suffice to say, it should be implied that it anything I say is an opinion. lol
Don't believe it, don't disbelieve it... simply put it aside until you have enough data to confirm or deny it per your own experiences. Because that's all that matters.