The Astral Pulse

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Well, I bought the gateway experience on Ebay. I'm starting tomorrow.  I'm open minded and am hoping to have a profound life changing experience but at the same time, I'm trying to keep my expections low and stifle myself a little.  I'm just going to start at the beginning and just work through them and whatever happens just happens.

I'm been reading reviews about them so I can't help being excited. 

Cheers, Jenn

Quote from: Blossom on July 23, 2023, 01:37:50
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Well, I bought the gateway experience on Ebay. I'm starting tomorrow.  I'm open minded and am hoping to have a profound life changing experience but at the same time, I'm trying to keep my expections low and stifle myself a little.  I'm just going to start at the beginning and just work through them and whatever happens just happens.

I'm been reading reviews about them so I can't help being excited.  

Cheers, Jenn

Good Luck Jenn!  :-)

You are going into this with the right mindset. Low expectations and ready to see what you can see. You do need an open mind though. That is the important part. Heeding the instructions will make "something" happen. What that something will be depends on what you need to experience or see at this point in your NPR (non-physical reality) evolution.

Quote from: Lumaza on July 23, 2023, 11:33:41
Good Luck Jenn!  :-)

You are going into this with the right mindset. Low expectations and ready to see what you can see. You do need an open mind though. That is the important part. Heeding the instructions will make "something" happen. What that something will be depends on what you need to experience or see at this point in your NPR (non-physical reality) evolution.

First of all, thank you for replying..  I appreciate it.

I did the orientation twice.  First time I fell asleep.  I woke up two hours later.  Had a very nice nap..  lol

Im working on recording 2 now, which is "Discovery - Intro to focus 10".  I have completed it once and fell asleep again.  Slept for about three hours..  So I am wide awake at 4:36am.  Fixing to try again.

Haven't felt this rested in a long time.

I am reading the specific instructions and information to each particular recording prior to beginning each recording.  

The one I am working on now for Intro to Focus 10 states --> "One of the paradoxes of 'mind awake, body asleep' is the possibility of heightened sensitivity: awareness that the pores of your skin breathe, hearing the swish of blood flow behind your ears, feeling your heart beat. Spontaneous remote sensing is also possible: hearing sounds you would swear you are hearing this time but not the last time, or perceiving faraway, delicate odors. Place all expectations in your box, relax, and simply go with whatever you are experiencing."

I'm glad I know what mind awake/body asleep feels like, which is a good thing I believe.  My very first OBE was the first time I experienced it. I knew I was resting in bed wide awake with closed eyes, but I was very aware of my etheric body rolling on the bed back and forth. I had dual awareness. It was an awesome experience.

I'm trying to determine best time of day/night for me for my sessions.  I live alone but I have an australian shepherd that is around 15 months old named Eli.  In the day time, I can't lay down without him by my side.  He is my shadow dog and is by my side 100% of the time.  At night however, when I go to bed, Eli lays by me for about 15 min until he is sure I am settled in for the evening, and then moves to the front door and lays there until morning or until I get up.  So I believe night is the best time for me.

Well here I go.. Hopefully to focus 10.  I may have to do this one several times before I reach that state but I may not. I am in no rush. I'm going to take it slow. I plan on doing one recording per day OR possibly repeat the same recording if I fall asleep. I have seven wave recordings with complete manuals for each wave.  That is 42 recordings of progress.  I am using wireless headphones and laying in bed.  I may end up using a chair with an ottoman. But I think the bed will work best for me.

Jenn C :roll:

p.s.  I do have a question: What type of headphones are best? open back, closed back, brand?  I know I want wireless.  My budget is probably $200-$250 usa bucks. I might bump that to $300. I'm using some sony wireless now but they are about 5 years old and they could be better. I want to make sure I get every nuance of the recordings.  What about noise cancellation?

I lay down with my headphones at around 5:30am and started the recording.  I stayed awake for most of it.  I did not get to focus 10 but I think I came close.  I followed all of Monroe's instructions putting my physical matter and cares' in the box and shut the lid. I tried to drift and go with the flow of the recording.  I DO believe I had gotten in a fairly deep meditative state. Then probably close to 10-15 min prior to the end of the recording (and this is a guess), I saw a large clear yellow spider in my peripheral vision moving around watching me. It was not a scary thing.  It was just something that I saw in the blackness.  I tried to keep viewing its movements and concentrate on it and that's the last thing I remember.  My dog woke me about 6:30 wanting outside.  I put him out to use the restroom and I got myself a glass of water.  When I let him back in, I lay back down and had a very vivid dream.  I was very groggy from no sleep. I do not believe this was an LD.

I dreamt about me mowing my lawn at first because all my neighbors were mowing theirs. This was not at my actual house.  It was a dream built house. Anyway, as I was mowing, a group of puppies from the neighbors' yard were burrowing under my metal fence and I spent quite a bit of time putting them back on their side of the fence through an extremely small hole at the bottom of the fence-line. I remember one puppy had the fence snagged on his back and I spent a bit of time releasing him. Then several adult dogs were suddenly in my yard and that were related to the puppies.  Huge dogs. One wore a pack on its back with pockets. It was like a military type dog vest with a large side pocket on each side. My dog Eli was there and he was nosing in the dog's pockets, which did not seem to bother the other dog. They were very large friendly brown dogs.  They were not jumping around or anything like that. By friendly, I mean they were not displaying aggression. They were very calm knowing dogs. Then I suddenly shifted and was under some sort of shelter and all my neighbors were gathered around talking to me. It was a huge shelter.  I cannot remember the conversation we were having but it seems like it was about riding lawn mowers. Then I noticed a man from the group standing toward the rear of the group and he started approaching me and as he got closer I recognized him as an engineer I used to work with many years ago named Robert F.  We hugged and he was glad to see me, as I was him. I was his engineering tech. We worked for a gov company that made wiring harnesses for the space shuttles.  I made booklets of wiring diagrams based on schematics and Robert proofed my work before releasing them to be built. I have not thought about Robert in over 10 years. Yet here he was. He looked exactly the same.  We had some nondescript conversation that I don't remember.  I woke up shortly afterwards and felt out of sorts.

Just a weird disjointed dream.  

I immediately started looking up Robert on facebook and on the net in general to see what had happened to him.  I could not find one single bit of information. It makes me wonder if Robert has passed on.  

The reason I tried looking Robert up is because it reminds me of another incident many years ago. I was asleep and I startled awake.  It felt like my grandfather woke me up by screaming in my face. It was like a jolt of lightening hit me and as soon as I sat up, I knew it was Pa. I could feel him all around me. It was like his face was directly in my face, mere inches apart when I initially woke up.  It was so real that I woke my then husband to tell him something has happened to Pa and I told what had occurred. We waited until daylight to call my aunt who lived in the same city as my grandfather.  Pa was her father and he was in his 90's and lived in a nursing home in Texas with his wife, my grandmother.  I lived in Arkansas at the time.  Quite a distance and many hours away.  When we called she told me that during the night, he had gone to the restroom and fell and hit his head on the sink knocking him out.  My experience was the exact time he had fallen. He developed pneumonia and died a couple weeks later. I never got to see him before he passed. My grandfather was a psychic in our family. He knew beforehand when people in our family were going to pass.  He would tell my grandmother to get his suit cleaned because there was going to be a death.  He was always right.

I also have identical twin daughters that are 45 now.  They would entertain us when they were teenagers by their psychic abilities. We would put them in separate rooms and write a letter on a piece of paper and have one concentrate on it.  The other could guess correctly what letter of the alphabet the other was thinking. I don't remember them ever not being right.  It scared them and they quit entertaining us eventually. :|

So needless to say, I will be repeating "Intro to Focus 10" today after I take a nap this morning...  I'm not done with it.  I don't want to be sleepy when I repeat it. I will get to focus 10 before I move on.

Jenn :-)

p.s.  I am kicking myself for not staying coherent when I saw the yellow spider.  And sorry this is so long.


This is Eli.. My wonderful companion and spoiled protector.  My shadow dog because he stays so close to me that our shadows blend...
http://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPfTcyiYFfFh6ycQVFkS7WIJ5wbizoe1rE8lC-U

Regarding headphones, it reads like your current headphones are doing the job just fine for now. You could call or email the Institute and ask- I think that initially, they were against noise cancellation as that might interfere with the Hemi-sync, but I think they are more relaxed about that now. Again, it looks like your current setup is working just fine.

Your initial experiences read as very productive. When you fall asleep, that's okay; it means you are certainly relaxing into the session with no problem, and if it's not simply an issue of starting too late at night or being too tired, then this kind of sleep can indicate that "work" is still being done, but at a subconscious level. Those are often described as noticeable "click-outs".

Maybe you are starting your session at your normal bedtime or utilizing the session within a WakeBackToBed technique...if it is during a WBTB technique, then I would suggest staying awake a little longer between the first and second intervals, such as 45 minutes to an hour; then you won't be as strongly pulled back into sleep so quickly.

Even spending multiple weeks at TMI, I could never get to what I felt was a complete F10 Mind Awake/Body Asleep state like I did the first few accidental times I did it at home. What I came to learn was that all the Focus Levels, whether F10, F21 or F27 are not fixed points in Consciousness, but rather a range within a given continuum or spectrum in Consciousness...so there can be a high F10 or a low F10 or a middle F10 and it can vary from person to person and from day to day. I eventually realized that I never had to be in a "perfect" F21 or F23 or F27 to experience what I was supposed to. So don't get too caught up in searching for the exact, correct state you think you should be in. Like you wrote, if you feel that you have reached a fairly deep, meditative state, then that's your confirmation. And from what I am reading of your experiences so far, you are doing really well...so just keep on with the relaxed "noticing" and go with the flow of whatever happens.

When you start the F15 or F21 sessions, you might consider finding the time to do back to back sessions, like a session in F12, then a session in F15 and then a session in F21. I know that means a commitment of like three hours, but the "build-on" effect can offer sometimes surprising results...something to consider.

Hope that helps!

EV

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on July 25, 2023, 20:46:30
Regarding headphones, it reads like your current headphones are doing the job just fine for now. You could call or email the Institute and ask- I think that initially, they were against noise cancellation as that might interfere with the Hemi-sync, but I think they are more relaxed about that now. Again, it looks like your current setup is working just fine.

Your initial experiences read as very productive. When you fall asleep, that's okay; it means you are certainly relaxing into the session with no problem, and if it's not simply an issue of starting too late at night or being too tired, then this kind of sleep can indicate that "work" is still being done, but at a subconscious level. Those are often described as noticeable "click-outs".

Maybe you are starting your session at your normal bedtime or utilizing the session within a WakeBackToBed technique...if it is during a WBTB technique, then I would suggest staying awake a little longer between the first and second intervals, such as 45 minutes to an hour; then you won't be as strongly pulled back into sleep so quickly.

Even spending multiple weeks at TMI, I could never get to what I felt was a complete F10 Mind Awake/Body Asleep state like I did the first few accidental times I did it at home. What I came to learn was that all the Focus Levels, whether F10, F21 or F27 are not fixed points in Consciousness, but rather a range within a given continuum or spectrum in Consciousness...so there can be a high F10 or a low F10 or a middle F10 and it can vary from person to person and from day to day. I eventually realized that I never had to be in a "perfect" F21 or F23 or F27 to experience what I was supposed to. So don't get too caught up in searching for the exact, correct state you think you should be in. Like you wrote, if you feel that you have reached a fairly deep, meditative state, then that's your confirmation. And from what I am reading of your experiences so far, you are doing really well...so just keep on with the relaxed "noticing" and go with the flow of whatever happens.

When you start the F15 or F21 sessions, you might consider finding the time to do back to back sessions, like a session in F12, then a session in F15 and then a session in F21. I know that means a commitment of like three hours, but the "build-on" effect can offer sometimes surprising results...something to consider.

Hope that helps!

EV

Your reply helped me understand so much!  Thank you very much for that input.  If I'm understanding this right, then there are "ranges" to EACH focus.  And I should not get too caught up in "being perfect"... or what I consider being perfect. Just notice and what will be, will be.

Before I read your reply, I tried F10 twice again yesterday.  Yesterday morning and last night when I went to bed. The first time I fell asleep again but I did reach the point where he was counting 1-10.  I remember that. The second time was a flop due to my dog.  Have you ever felt someone looking at you?  I barely cracked my eyes and his nose was an inch from my face.  He was listening to the recording.

Its frustrating not to get where you think you should be. I feel like that in itself was a slight determent in what I was considering progress to F10. Like you said, I need to relax and just go with the flow.

The part of the recording I am finding difficult is when I'm supposed to look at my legs. When I do that, they tingle, itch and feel restless.

My husband comes over and spends weekends with me, so it will not be a problem doing back to back sessions when that time comes. Three hours is no problem.  He would be glad to help. He would probably take Eli to his house so I could be alone in my house for a long session.

I'm going to do F10 ONE MORE TIME before moving on if you feel like I am being productive.. My dog is ready for his morning nap.  He has been outside since about 5:30am.  I just let him in and he is sleeping.  This is a great time.

I looked up TMI many times and would love to go myself.  I am in awe that you have spent weeks there. That is totally amazing.

I also just called them. Very nice people and very informative.  The woman told me noise cancellation is no problem.  Ear buds are no problem.  They use some skull candy, some sony and quite a few different types.  She said whatever I am comfortable with.  I specifically asked her about expensive headphones.  She said I don't need them.  She did say the best ones are ones that cover your entire ear and block out outside noise and thats all I need.

Awesome... I feel much more relaxed now.

Jenn  

p.s.  The main thing I am noticing just from this short time, is that my dreams are much more vivid and I am feeling more refreshed when I wake up.

I could not resist buying these today.. They weren't expensive.  Just a little over $100. I think it was $119 plus tax. :-D  But they ARE noise cancelling and bluetooth.. I'll try them tonight. This is the first brand the woman mentioned when I called TMI..

On a different note, something that I have noticed the last few months... First of all, I used to NOT be able to rest or sleep in the dark. Or rest or sleep period.  I had to have a light on to even have a chance of getting to sleep.  My normal sleep period was about three hours and that was it. I would go to bed at 3am and wake up at 6am without fail.  Then I bought a very soft comfortable sleep mask on a whim. I still had the light on but with the mask, it was pitch black.  I started sleeping 7 hours and the eye bags went away.  lol.

What I have discovered is that when meditating, even with less sleep, I still feel rested. "Body asleep" is mostly what I need. And I relish the darkess now at night.  I'm hooked on my mask.  I find myself getting up with the mask on and forgetting that's it's on until I realize I can't see..  haha

From a happy jenn... :lol:

(http://i.ibb.co/yFYpFpc/headphones50.jpg)

I just had the weirdest experience.

I guess it started yesterday.  I did recording 2 yesterday sitting upright.  I discovered I missed quite a bit of it sleeping.

Then last night I did recordings 3 and 4.  Not going to go into all the specifics right now as I don't have time. I DO believe I was very successful in both of them.  Stayed awake.

But tape 4 is where you create this energy bubble around you with flowing energy shooting out of your head and swirling downward around your body and then coming back up through your feet. I felt very successful at this. In fact I KNOW I was successful. I could feel it at the time it was occurring.

Anyway after doing tape 4, all day today I've been on cloud 9 since I feel it was a great success. I have envisioned this same flowing energy bubble as I've gone about my day. Trying hard to keep it around me as I went about my daily chores. This energy bubble has been uppermost in my mind.

I had a couple errands to run and I wanted to take some vegetables to a lady I know that has helped me out many times in the past with different things. So I wanted to return the favor.  I have a garden in my back yard with corn, beans, habanero peppers, 4 kinds of tomatoes, bell peppers, kale, spinach and lettuce.  So I made her a big care package and took it to her.  

As I was leaving her and heading to my car,  a man on the parking lot that I did not know and had never seen before, came up to me and asked me if I was a christian.  My first thought was "oh crap" and I wanted to tell him to beat it, but when I looked at him, I could see how serious he was and so I decided to curb my tongue.

Now I don't consider myself a christian, nor agnostic, nor an athetist.  I'm not even sure I believe in the typical God that most people believe in.  Not trying to ruffle feathers here, but I'm being honest.  I am spiritual.  I feel like I am etremely spiritual person actually and that's what I told him, that I considered myself a very spiritual person.  He was still staring at me a little odd and he told me he could see a glow around my body and knew that I was a blessed person.  He said it was all over me and extremely obvious to him. He shook my hand and turned to walk away.  I just kept staring at him completely stunned and as he walked he kept turning back to look at me.  He finally waved as he entered a bldg and I waved back.

Did he actually see my energy bubble? Thats all I can fathom. Weird weird weird..  

I am liking these tapes a lot!

Jenn

p.s.  I am returning my new headphones.  I am not used to meditating on my back.  It has never been a successful position for me in spite of the successes I have had so far. I can't lay on my side with these headphones.  I LOVE the way they produce or reproduce sound.  But I'm going to get noise cancelling earbuds instead and try those.  The sony's I have are great for music but not meditation so much.  I need to be on my side.  

Also laying on my back, my arms and legs don't just twitch when listening to monroes tapes.  They jerk inches off the bed in this position.  Inches... Seriously.  I'm wondering if I have an energy blockage that I'm putting pressure on.  I may need to get RB's pdf back out and do some energy work once more.

My plan today is repeat tape 4 and see what tape 5 is about..

I bought a book..  Journeys out of the body on ebay used for $8.  Be here in a couple days.  I've never read it. 

 Hi Jenn. It sounds like you are doing great!  :-)

I also use noise cancelling headphones. The ones I use are Bose. I bought them over 10 years ago. Music never sounded so good!  8-)

I have read that you fall asleep a lot during this. My advise would be to find a comfortable chair, like a Lazy-boy. Something you could sit comfortably in for a period of time. The reason for this is, all your life you have trained yourself that bed is for sleeping. I personally find it much easier to practice in a my Lazy-boy chair. I usually do what I call "Phase soaks", which is Phasing while lying in the hot water in my bathtub. I am 6'2 and my bathtub is barely 5 ft long. But I get so deep, so quick, that I can't consciously feel the sensation of being crammed into the tub, once I begin my Phase session.

I also use a Blindfold, aka Sleep Mask, even when I sleep. Years ago I found one called the "Mindfold". It was a decent blindfold. But then I came across another one called the "Escape Luxury Sleep Mask". I am on my second one in about 10 years of use. The link to it is below this. I have handwashed it numerous times and still holds up well.
https://dreamessentials.com/blogs/news/introducing-the-new-escape-luxury-travel-sleep-mask?_pos=1&_sid=22fe35c76&_ss=r

I also sleep with the light on. It's a really bright "night light" though. I have size 13 feet and have broken my toes numerous times due to stubbings!  :-D I sleep with my mask on though, so it is still pitch dark.

I agree with Lumaza that you might consider moving your practice to a comfortable reclining chair, if you have that available. A recline angle of 37 degrees has been reported in the literature as beneficial, but like most things in this practice, adjust it to your own tastes...there are no hard or fast rules...

The three Monroe books are enjoyable reads. However, I would recommend waiting to read any of them until you finish the Gateway Experience sessions. I'm saying that because you are doing so well with them. Reading any new material, especially these books, can "front-load" you with unnecessary and possibly conflicting ideas which might interfere with the ongoing sessions...so I advise to stay off that for now. Your choice.

I suppose the great energy feeling may be from your REBAL exercise, so if you are feeling that during the day, that is a great confirmation! The Multiverse is certainly reinforcing the recognition with the episode of the guy in the parking lot recognizing your energy in such an obvious way. That is kind of hard to ignore! LoL!

The energy twitches get heavy for me at times. There are nights where I cannot fall asleep and the moment I am close, I startle and jump, sometimes feeling like I've lifted off the bed six inches in a jolt! On nights like this, it can happen ten, twenty times and becomes very distressing and wearing. You may be right about trying some RB Energy balancing techniques...thank you for that idea!

Thank you for taking the time to describe your experiences here. It helps others, and maybe we help, in return.

Good stuff!

Quote from: Lumaza on July 27, 2023, 20:22:45
Hi Jenn. It sounds like you are doing great!  :-)

I also use noise cancelling headphones. The ones I use are Bose. I bought them over 10 years ago. Music never sounded so good!  8-)

I have read that you fall asleep a lot during this. My advise would be to find a comfortable chair, like a Lazy-boy. Something you could sit comfortably in for a period of time. The reason for this is, all your life you have trained yourself that bed is for sleeping. I personally find it much easier to practice in a my Lazy-boy chair. I usually do what I call "Phase soaks", which is Phasing while lying in the hot water in my bathtub. I am 6'2 and my bathtub is barely 5 ft long. But I get so deep, so quick, that I can't consciously feel the sensation of being crammed into the tub, once I begin my Phase session.

I also use a Blindfold, aka Sleep Mask, even when I sleep. Years ago I found one called the "Mindfold". It was a decent blindfold. But then I came across another one called the "Escape Luxury Sleep Mask". I am on my second one in about 10 years of use. The link to it is below this. I have handwashed it numerous times and still holds up well.
https://dreamessentials.com/blogs/news/introducing-the-new-escape-luxury-travel-sleep-mask?_pos=1&_sid=22fe35c76&_ss=r

I also sleep with the light on. It's a really bright "night light" though. I have size 13 feet and have broken my toes numerous times due to stubbings!  :-D I sleep with my mask on though, so it is still pitch dark.

Hi there !..

First of all, your post had me laughing.  It was great!  I relate to every thing you said.

This is the mask I use and mine is purple, like the one displayed in my link below.  I love it so much!  I may order that luxury sleep mask from your link as well.  I like more than one option.. And I doubt I will ever be without a sleep mask again. I use it every single night.  I rest so much better with it on. Its a sleep game changer for me.. And I'm glad I'm not the only adult that needs a night light on.     https://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Contoured-Blindfold-Adjustable-Meditation/dp/B07RS21VZ5?pd_rd_w=yfil1&content-id=amzn1.sym.e8faeee7-63c9-4cb3-96e0-e50a41f3b35b&pf_rd_p=e8faeee7-63c9-4cb3-96e0-e50a41f3b35b&pf_rd_r=RYXGRNEQRQTGT9TH93FK&pd_rd_wg=2fOIQ&pd_rd_r=71621dc6-58d8-4f93-90d4-7bde81f6ed5b&pd_rd_i=B07RS21VZ5&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_d_grid_rp_0_3_nped_i (https://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Contoured-Blindfold-Adjustable-Meditation/dp/B07RS21VZ5?pd_rd_w=yfil1&content-id=amzn1.sym.e8faeee7-63c9-4cb3-96e0-e50a41f3b35b&pf_rd_p=e8faeee7-63c9-4cb3-96e0-e50a41f3b35b&pf_rd_r=RYXGRNEQRQTGT9TH93FK&pd_rd_wg=2fOIQ&pd_rd_r=71621dc6-58d8-4f93-90d4-7bde81f6ed5b&pd_rd_i=B07RS21VZ5&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_d_grid_rp_0_3_nped_i)

Bose is a very good brand.  I have heard that many times in my life.  The skullcandy that I purchased yesterday is my first bluetooth item ever.  Never have had anything bluetooth. I'm old school and have always had wired electronics.  I have never even purchased earbuds either until today and they are just awesome.  The sonys that I was using has a usb antenna that plus into a port on the computer with a wire that plugs into the speaker port. They are not considered wireless or bluetooth but I can walk around the house in a limited area with them on. If I go too far away from it's base, it turns into static.  The headphones and the earbuds that I bought, I can go upstairs and even outside with the same clarity as sitting in front of my computer. I'm not sure how I ever lived without them!!  

I had initially decided to take my new headphones back and get earbuds so I could lay on my side in bed.  I ended up keeping the headphones because I love the music quality when using them.  But I ended up also buying some skullcandy earbuds that are also noise canceling.  So now I have headphones and earbuds, with both noise canceling.  I am going to experiment with both and see which works best for me for Monroe. I feel uptown right now. :lol:  

What I want eventually want is some Sennheiser 650+'s with a closed back.  I am repurposing an old antique piano because I want to use it for a keyboard stand.  I want a kawai es920 desperately and I'm thinking about buying myself one for xmas this year. :roll:  

I like your idea of phase soaks.  I never would have thought of that..

Well, it is 12:25am.  I'm fixing to try out my ear buds.  Repeat tape 4 and do tape 5.. I read in the discovery manual that it is a sleep tape.  I think I have that one mastered before I do it..  :-D

I can see where Monroe is going with the discovery recordings.  He is teaching us prerequisites.. which is his system to get to MA/BS...

Jenn

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on July 28, 2023, 01:03:56
I agree with Lumaza that you might consider moving your practice to a comfortable reclining chair, if you have that available. A recline angle of 37 degrees has been reported in the literature as beneficial, but like most things in this practice, adjust it to your own tastes...there are no hard or fast rules...

The three Monroe books are enjoyable reads. However, I would recommend waiting to read any of them until you finish the Gateway Experience sessions. I'm saying that because you are doing so well with them. Reading any new material, especially these books, can "front-load" you with unnecessary and possibly conflicting ideas which might interfere with the ongoing sessions...so I advise to stay off that for now. Your choice.

I suppose the great energy feeling may be from your REBAL exercise, so if you are feeling that during the day, that is a great confirmation! The Multiverse is certainly reinforcing the recognition with the episode of the guy in the parking lot recognizing your energy in such an obvious way. That is kind of hard to ignore! LoL!

The energy twitches get heavy for me at times. There are nights where I cannot fall asleep and the moment I am close, I startle and jump, sometimes feeling like I've lifted off the bed six inches in a jolt! On nights like this, it can happen ten, twenty times and becomes very distressing and wearing. You may be right about trying some RB Energy balancing techniques...thank you for that idea!

Thank you for taking the time to describe your experiences here. It helps others, and maybe we help, in return.

Good stuff!

Hello there..

I unfortunately, don't have a recliner.  I may have to get one.  I used to have one but when my husband moved out, I gave it to him. I need to get another one.  I've lived without a recliner for two years.  How is that even possible?  And I wonder why 37 degrees.  I'll going to try to find something online about that.  That's interesting because it's so specific a degree.  It's a prime number too, which is odd, but then all prime numbers are odd.  :lol: Well, there is 2 too, which is even...

And I can wait on reading the book.  I'm glad you mentioned that to me. I'm pretty involved in the tapes and my garden right now.  I'll put it on the shelf with my other OBE books.  Thank you. I have read so many books about astral travel, obes etc etc... I have a whole section on my shelf.  I love William Buhlman Adventures Beyond the Body.  I've read it cover to cover several times.  But his new book, Higher Self Now, not as much.  In that book, it felt like like he is preparing you for death. I like Bob Peterson too and his Hacking the Out of Body Experience. It has a lot of great ideas. And I have read most of RB's Astral Dynamics as well.  The first version.  It's a pretty darn good book, with so much information.  I have his psychic self defense too, but I haven't read it.  I'm afraid to.  I am not scared to obe and I feel like I don't need protection.  I feel like nothing can hurt me during an OBE. RB sent it to me but when I saw what it was about, I didn't read it because of the possible negative connotations it contains and I was afraid that it would make me feel afraid on a subconscious level to OBE.  Like it might hinder me. I don't want to practice psychic self defense. I feel like my world is safe. But I will forever have it on my shelf.  He signed it and dated it Nov 11, 2002 and wrote in it that he just had to send it so its a very sentimental book.  I've never met RB, but I bet he is a nice person.

I personally like to pretend I am an upright tree, which is prob just shifting my consciousness 6' over my head. But these tapes are an entirely new territory for me. And I'm really enjoying them a lot.  I haven't had a lot of OBE'S but I want to..

okay, I'm hoping to beam up now Scotty...
I got my new earbuds.  Got my new headphones.  What more could a person want?

Jenn

p.s.  I'm glad it's okay to post what is happening to me on this Monroe journey.  It helps me keep track.  I bought a "back to school" notebook today too, to compare differnt successes.  To track what works, what doesn't work.. etc...  You and Lamaza are helping me a lot..  And I appreciate you both.

 

Love love love my earbuds.  I slept with them on and with recording 5 playing..  they did not come out. They are perfect for what I bought them for.

I don't remember everything that happened to me during this recording.  Its muddy in my mind this morning. But was crystal clear last night.  I was going through my sequence of getting to Focus 10. Putting my troubles in the conversion box and my physical matter.  I also made a distinct point of putting any apprehensions or worries about OBEing in the box so that I could be free.  Then the resonant tuning and my energy balloon.  I forgot my affirmation as I got into the sounds coming through the earbuds. I just relaxed on my side and went with the flow.

Being on my side makes a big difference.

What I distinctly remember is that I found myself floating down either a corridor or a tunnel like structure that was cold and sterile feeling and weird things were under me that I was observing.  I was only about 4-6' above what I was seeing.  There were (I'm sorry) dead people that had faces like pulverized hamburger meat laying around this corridor in uniforms. It was like a war zone.  I slowed my flow and got close down and really looked at them and their faces.  There were no facial features at all.  They were absolutely decimated in the facial area. They were dead.  There is no doubt. I think they had some type of uniform on but I'm not sure but they did have on the same clothes.  They all also had the exact same facial injuries.  I noticed the fact that this did not shock me or repulse me.  It was just something I noticed.  I decided to change my environment and it was suddenly a tunnel of really pretty trees. And so I floated through this corridor of trees and plants.  This was a circular corridor too.  Not square like a hallway. There were still people below me in this corridor as well but they were in realistic cartoon suits smoking cigarettes and cigars and I just floated over them and they were totally unaware of me.  I KNOW there was something else but I can't quite put my finger on it.  I just don't remember.

That is all I remember.  I don't remember Monroe coming back on in focus 10.  I don't remember the end of the recording or even the middle part of the recording. I woke up at 5:30..  I DO remember thinking that I should write this down but I did not stay coherent long enough and obviously dropped out and went to sleep.

I'm fixing to do tape 5 again.  That was really interesting. I have never have experienced anything quite like that.  It was very primal and dark as in what I think a very low vibratory state would be like. Even when I was in the pretty little trees, the cartoon suits were goolish. It was a dark experience but not scary. I was an observer.

I have been up an hour and 15 min after laying down at 2am. It is 6:50am now.  I got up at 5:30am.  

wow..  That was just freaking awesome!!!   :-D

Hit play and repeat.. beam me up again Scotty..

Jenn

Quote from: Blossom on July 27, 2023, 14:13:28

a man on the parking lot that I did not know[/i] and had never seen before, came up to me and asked me if I was a christian.  My first thought was "oh crap" and I wanted to tell him to beat it

hahaha, I'm glad you took the other approach, because something beautiful was revealed. I had that initial reaction when a Jehovah's witness asked me if I wanted to know who God was. But I told him "I have seen God in its entirety. Your religion describes only a tiny part filtered through the human ego. To confine God in one book is offensive." He just stared at me and didn't  know what to say haha, then I walked away.

Blossom, I am not familiar with the instructions of the Gateway Experience, but is it possible to incorporate some visualization that you are some place else and observing, touching objects. Or to incorporate motion such as flying, running fast, swaying? These produce most success with my technique done as I fall asleep every night. Then I am awaken by the vibrations at some point in the night and I exit easily.

Quote from: LightBeam on July 28, 2023, 09:20:13
hahaha, I'm glad you took the other approach, because something beautiful was revealed. I had that initial reaction when a Jehovah's witness asked me if I wanted to know who God was. But I told him "I have seen God in its entirety. Your religion describes only a tiny part filtered through the human ego. To confine God in one book is offensive." He just stared at me and didn't  know what to say haha, then I walked away.

Blossom, I am not familiar with the instructions of the Gateway Experience, but is it possible to incorporate some visualization that you are some place else and observing, touching objects. Or to incorporate motion such as flying, running fast, swaying? These produce most success with my technique done as I fall asleep every night. Then I am awaken by the vibrations at some point in the night and I exit easily.

I am also glad I held my tongue.  What that man said has been uppermost on my mind since it happened.  And it was a beautiful moment. I like your response a lot as well.  And no offense to the Jehovah's witnesses but when I was around 8 yrs old, they used to knock on our door all the time at my grandparents house.  I can still see my granddad sitting on the porch chewing his tobacco pacing.  They made him nervous.  He told me to avoid them at all cost because they sat in the trees and sang like birds.  haha..  He was a character.

As far as your question on what I can incorporate, I'm just not sure at this point.  I'm new to this as well.  Each recording is a little different. They seem to be building on each other. Like building blocks. This is the first time I have listened to anything guided.  As I progress in each wave so far, monroe (I guessing its monroes voice) has you repeat the previous recordings instructions in the current recording and then you add the new instructions to the current recording. They are pretty specific.  The absolute goal of wave 1 is mind awake/body asleep, which monroe calls Focus 10. I suspect each wave has a specific goal. I do know the last recording in the wave 1 discovery set is called Free Flow 10 so that may be where I can incorporate something specific to ME. Just with what I have experienced so far, I highly recommend these recordings for anyone seriously wanting to explore consciousness on another level.  It has really surprised me with how "into these recordings" I have become.  

EscapeVelocity and Lumaza could better answer that question about what can be incorporated.  I'm just really not sure.  Right now I'm just going with monroe's flow.

BUT... Visualization is how my past OBE's have occurred. And they were strong and mind blowing and instantaneous. I've seen things that I never knew were possible and it changed my life. But at the time, I was ill. I took medication for four years.  Those four years is when I experienced obe's.  After I quit the medication, I tried all my same techniques but could not get out any longer.  I would always come close. I would feel vibrations but it was like I'd been blocked. I actually felt blocked which I think effects your success. Years passed with no results but I kept trying.  And I never gave up.  I have still not given up. These tapes feel like they are opening me up again to all the possibilities that are.. If you know what I mean. I am nearly hesitant to add anything because I think they are working just as they are.

Prior to having my first OBE, I did not even believe in them.  I have never read about them at that point or even knew anyone who had researched them. I did not even realize there were websites devoted to the study of astral phenomena.  All I knew is my sister telling me about hers.  But I never really believed her. The first time it happened to me, I had been meditating for six months or so trying to relax due to the meds, which hyped me up even more than usual. I'm not very laid back.  haha  When it happened to me, I had to apologize to my sister. But now I know.  After that I started buying books and reading everything I could find on the subject and devoured everything I read. But nothing worked.

What happened last night, the corridor experience, was amazing to me.  It's like "I'M BACK"...

Jenn

p.s.  One last thing.  I also have read about so many peoples body lifting out and being in their house or their room or flying.  That has never happened to me.  I have never been in this reality if that makes sense.  I either click to some entirely different reality/place OR I am sucked through what feels like a tiny straw and end up in the clouds bouncing and jumping and laughing with many others doing the same. There is nothing like feeling your entire person being compressed and moving through "a straw" and then popping out the other end.

I would love to fly!

Fixing to repeat wave1-recording5. It's 6:30am.  I've been up about an hour or so.
I think I went to bed around midnight so I have slept 4-5 hours.

Not successful.  Slept again.  Fixing to do it again.  On the other hand, at least I'm getting plenty of rest..  :-D

Also found this link.  AWESOME link that explains each focus..
https://www.monroeinstituteuk.org/focus-levels/ (https://www.monroeinstituteuk.org/focus-levels/)

Quote from: Blossom on July 28, 2023, 12:29:07


p.s.  One last thing.  I also have read about so many peoples body lifting out and being in their house or their room or flying.  That has never happened to me.  I have never been in this reality if that makes sense.  I either click to some entirely different reality/place OR I am sucked through what feels like a tiny straw and end up in the clouds bouncing and jumping and laughing with many others doing the same. There is nothing like feeling your entire person being compressed and moving through "a straw" and then popping out the other end.

This video of Skip Atwater might interest you especially the experience starting around 4:30


https://youtu.be/ehtZCemim0w

The Gateway Experience sessions are mostly tightly-scripted and I would suggest sticking to the script. You are right that the Free Flow sessions are not scripted and offered as 45 minute opportunities to apply your own ideas and techniques or to just relax and become more thoroughly familiar with that particular Focus Level. You are having such good experiences early on and there is a long way to go in this Series, so again, I suggest doing just what you are doing now. Don't get hung up on doing any exercise more than twice early on; don't let yourself feel bogged down. There are a lot of exercises waiting for you, and many later ones that will certainly bear repeating multiple times. And once completely finished with the Series, you will likely want to return to certain early Focus Levels such as F10, F12, F15 to understand them better from a new perspective. Also, certain personal work can be done more effectively from some of these "lower" Levels; higher is not necessarily better.

Regarding the differences between Etheric or OBEs that appear to happen closer to the Physical Dimension (ie...you float like a ghost out of your body and roam around your house) versus Phasing experiences...okay, it seems you are already somewhat familiar with the Phasing type, where you click to or instantly materialize in a new environment (arguably the Astral or Mental OBE). This was what I wanted to warn against by putting off reading the Monroe books while doing Gateway. It can get confusing and end up front-loading our expectations. In his book, Monroe started with involuntarily experiencing the "Classic Etheric OBE". He didn't understand it, but described and reported his experiences. This is how it starts for many people, but not all. By his second book, Far Journeys, Monroe was describing how his experiences had evolved into the "Quick-Switch Method" which later became known as Phasing. These are two very different and distinct experiences, but Phasing seems the obvious evolution of our experiences, however one wishes to explain it (and we still have differences about that). The Gateway Experience includes an early Etheric-type exit Session that invites that kind of particular experience. So, the problem with possibly front-loading someone with different types of experiential expectations becomes more apparent. Blossom, it seems that you are already having semi, if not more complete Phasing experiences, even in these early F10 Sessions, so I feel it is important to explain this distinction. Going forward, I just recommend remaining as open to the experience as possible. And Phasing experiences can happen at any time within these Gateway Sessions...so again, always go with the flow...trust yourself.

Monroe was a pioneer in the truest sense- His first book actually contains a variety of experiences: Most were the Classic Etheric type; but then there were arguably parallel dimension experiences; then what seem clearly Phasing-type; and then even higher-level bodiless, energetic experiences (speaking to Causal, Buddhic, Nirvanic...to throw in Hindu mysticism)...an incredible multitude of experiences that many have confirmed in their own ways.

What makes the Monroe books problematic is the timing with when a person reads them. They can be quite eye-opening and revealing...or they can introduce some real confusion into how a person works out and comes to understand their own experiences. Part of the fun, no doubt. I found Journeys in a bookstore when I was twelve, and it helped to explain my experiences at the time, Lol.

Hope that helps. EV

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on July 30, 2023, 01:42:13
The Gateway Experience sessions are mostly tightly-scripted and I would suggest sticking to the script. You are right that the Free Flow sessions are not scripted and offered as 45 minute opportunities to apply your own ideas and techniques or to just relax and become more thoroughly familiar with that particular Focus Level. You are having such good experiences early on and there is a long way to go in this Series, so again, I suggest doing just what you are doing now. Don't get hung up on doing any exercise more than twice early on; don't let yourself feel bogged down. There are a lot of exercises waiting for you, and many later ones that will certainly bear repeating multiple times. And once completely finished with the Series, you will likely want to return to certain early Focus Levels such as F10, F12, F15 to understand them better from a new perspective. Also, certain personal work can be done more effectively from some of these "lower" Levels; higher is not necessarily better.

Regarding the differences between Etheric or OBEs that appear to happen closer to the Physical Dimension (ie...you float like a ghost out of your body and roam around your house) versus Phasing experiences...okay, it seems you are already somewhat familiar with the Phasing type, where you click to or instantly materialize in a new environment (arguably the Astral or Mental OBE). This was what I wanted to warn against by putting off reading the Monroe books while doing Gateway. It can get confusing and end up front-loading our expectations. In his book, Monroe started with involuntarily experiencing the "Classic Etheric OBE". He didn't understand it, but described and reported his experiences. This is how it starts for many people, but not all. By his second book, Far Journeys, Monroe was describing how his experiences had evolved into the "Quick-Switch Method" which later became known as Phasing. These are two very different and distinct experiences, but Phasing seems the obvious evolution of our experiences, however one wishes to explain it (and we still have differences about that). The Gateway Experience includes an early Etheric-type exit Session that invites that kind of particular experience. So, the problem with possibly front-loading someone with different types of experiential expectations becomes more apparent. Blossom, it seems that you are already having semi, if not more complete Phasing experiences, even in these early F10 Sessions, so I feel it is important to explain this distinction. Going forward, I just recommend remaining as open to the experience as possible. And Phasing experiences can happen at any time within these Gateway Sessions...so again, always go with the flow...trust yourself.

Monroe was a pioneer in the truest sense- His first book actually contains a variety of experiences: Most were the Classic Etheric type; but then there were arguably parallel dimension experiences; then what seem clearly Phasing-type; and then even higher-level bodiless, energetic experiences (speaking to Causal, Buddhic, Nirvanic...to throw in Hindu mysticism)...an incredible multitude of experiences that many have confirmed in their own ways.

What makes the Monroe books problematic is the timing with when a person reads them. They can be quite eye-opening and revealing...or they can introduce some real confusion into how a person works out and comes to understand their own experiences. Part of the fun, no doubt. I found Journeys in a bookstore when I was twelve, and it helped to explain my experiences at the time, Lol.

Hope that helps. EV

I think I let myself get bogged down with tapes 5 and 6.  I've done both over and over multiple multliple times and slept through both tapes. At least 4-5 times with each one with the exception of tape 5 and my corridor experience the first time I listened to it. I'll take your advice and move on today to wave2-Intro to focus 12.  But I am definately coming back to wave1-Discovery- tape 5. 

In looking at your explanations of phasing vs obe, I guess I phased without knowing what it was.  My very first time, I had no body.  It was like I was a point of consciousness in a field or an area of an extraordinary color of blue that I had never seen before. Upwards, downwards and all all around me was this same expanse of blue and it was like I could see everything.  At this point, I was not fearful.  Then large white globes started rising around me and that's when I felt a little fear. It made me feel like I was in water and drowning, even though I knew I was in my bed.  I was still completely awake and aware when this occured.

How I got there, I have tried to reproduce thousands of times. Literally. 

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When I would lay down, I would always visualize I was a tree.  A strong upright tree standing in a breeze.  This was a standard relaxation technique for me when I was taking medication.  It always relaxed me but one time it had a different outcome.  I separated while laying down and felt my ethric self rolling back and forth on the bed while I was awake. That was the first time during meditation that this had occurred.  I kept my eyes closed and marved about this.  It was really quite amazing.  My mind at that point was still in my body but I was also aware of my ethric body rolling.  It was duality.

Then I started to hear a low drone sound in my left ear.  And I listened to it.  I tried to concentrate on it instinctively.  As I listened, it got louder and louder.  Then I heard a click and simultaneously, it was like, over my closed eyes, a black curtain lowered and raised in a split second and pop, I was in the blue place. 



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If I was going to have an expectation of these tapes, it would be to give me the tools to return to the blue place.  With what I know now, I would not be afraid.

My book is coming on the 3rd. I'm putting it on the shelf and won't read it until these tapes are completely done.

It is 8am.  I'm going to try Intro to focus 12.

And thank you for everything.  Your explanations really help me understand what I am doing.

Jenn

Quote from: floriferous on July 29, 2023, 18:37:50
This video of Skip Atwater might interest you especially the experience starting around 4:30


https://youtu.be/ehtZCemim0w

I'll check this out right now.  Thank you.. I have never heard of Skip Atwater before.

Jenn

p.s. OKay, I just listened to the whole thing.  Skip had a similar experience but not quite what I experienced.  My straw experiences were a little different. Ive had three straw experiences and there were all nearly exactly the same. I was meditating (being my standard tree) and I felt intense pressure in the back of my head and I would actually feel myself moving through a tiny tube or straw.  I had no control over it.  I could not poke my head out the other end like skip.  I was only conscious of moving through a very very tiny straw-like-thing. I could see the sides of it and I could feel myself compressed in order to fit inside it.   There was no extra room in the straw.  I filled the entire thing up.  I just felt myself moving through it until I got to the end and popped out.  

I found it interesting that it was a white place for him.  Because when I popped out, I was in fluffy white clouds.  There was lots of people there and we were were all jumping.  Gravity was different.  We could jump 50' in the air and we were all laughing because it was so much fun. The entire experience was laughter and joy from jumping.  We did not talk.  We only laughed and jumped like children.  To return to my body, all I had to do was open my eyes.

In fact,  with every experience or obe I've had, to return I just open my eyes.

That was years ago.  Many years ago. Looking back, I think or feel like the pressure in my head was energy build up.  I have always thought or felt like the pressure had to reach a certain level of energy in order to pop into the straw as an exit mechanism. I might be wrong but thats how I see it or explain it.

I want to look up more experiences of skip now.  I hope one day to go to the TMI as a solo vacation.  That would be so awesome..

onward to wave 2 - Intro to focus12. 

 Hi again Jenn.

My "Mindfold" was a good blindfold for my Phase sessions, but not so good for sleeping. It was too rigid and uncomfortable for sleeping. For many months I just grinned and bared it. My new mask, the one I posted a link to above, is great for both sleeping and Phasing. I don't sweat and it is very comfortable to use while sleeping on my side, which I almost always do.

To your "straw" experience. I had and do still have similar experiences. Years ago I wrote about one it using my old name here on the Astral Pulse, that being "Lionheart". (the link to that is below"). I compared it more to viewing through a "toilet paper roll" though.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/tunnel_vision-t44765.0.html

I don't want to confuse you because you are in the middle of of your new learning process with Hemi-Sync and Monroe Tapes. But I have a feeling you would be very good with my "Doorway" technique. I have honed it for years now while on the Pulse here. So, you will see all the changes I have made to it through the years. If anything, it is a good read as well. Lime all other techniques that you can use, you don't have to do it "by the book". Possibly there is something in it that you can utilize to create your own personal technique. It was created using the adage I have always lived my life by and that is "KISS". Which stands for Keep It Simple Stupid"!   :-)
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/tunnel_vision-t44765.0.html

Quote from: Lumaza on July 30, 2023, 12:14:54
Hi again Jenn.

My "Mindfold" was a good blindfold for my Phase sessions, but not so good for sleeping. It was too rigid and uncomfortable for sleeping. For many months I just grinned and bared it. My new mask, the one I posted a link to above, is great for both sleeping and Phasing. I don't sweat and it is very comfortable to use while sleeping on my side, which I almost always do.

To your "straw" experience. I had and do still have similar experiences. Years ago I wrote about one it using my old name here on the Astral Pulse, that being "Lionheart". (the link to that is below"). I compared it more to viewing through a "toilet paper roll" though.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/tunnel_vision-t44765.0.html

I don't want to confuse you because you are in the middle of of your new learning process with Hemi-Sync and Monroe Tapes. But I have a feeling you would be very good with my "Doorway" technique. I have honed it for years now while on the Pulse here. So, you will see all the changes I have made to it through the years. If anything, it is a good read as well. Lime all other techniques that you can use, you don't have to do it "by the book". Possibly there is something in it that you can utilize to create your own personal technique. It was created using the adage I have always lived my life by and that is "KISS". Which stands for Keep It Simple Stupid"!   :-)
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/tunnel_vision-t44765.0.html

Are you a programmer/coder? You don't have to answer that if you don't want to. Your post leads me to believe you are. Its because of the KISS acronym.  Its the gold standard of programmers.

Also I saved and have your links open.  Fixing to read them now.  

Also, I opened all my blinds to let the light in.  I'm hoping my falling sleep is due to being too darn comfortable and chilly in my house..  I'm going to use the new headphones vs the earbuds again and prop myself up in bed as close I can get to 37 degrees.  lol... I'm hoping this will trick me and my subconscious into staying awake..

I MUST find a cheap loungechair if this works.

I actually remember the name Lionheart from years ago.  There also used to be a huge following of avid phasers on this site but at the time I did not understand what was going on because I was not totally familiar with Monroe and phasing. I just read and moved on to continue trying to be a tree.

Intro to focus12 -- I slept.  I did this recording twice back to back.  The second time, I woke up as Monroe was saying something about "Think of the number 12...", which was at the end of the tape.  I'm not falling asleep due to lack to rest.  I'm extremely rested right now.

Going to try again in a new position.

Jenn :-)





 

Quote from: Lumaza on July 30, 2023, 12:14:54
  "Doorway" technique.

I found this link.  I hope this is the correct one.  The two you posed were the exact same link.. So I went searching for that doorway technique..

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_doorway-t46013.0.html  (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_doorway-t46013.0.html)

This is a long post.  Fixing to read it in it's entirety..
Thank you so much!

Jenn

Quote from: Blossom on July 30, 2023, 13:44:04
Are you a programmer/coder? You don't have to answer that if you don't want to. Your post leads me to believe you are. Its because of the KISS acronym.  Its the gold standard of programmers.

Also, I opened all my blinds to let the light in.  I'm hoping my falling sleep is due to being too darn comfortable and chilly in my house..  I'm going to use the new headphones vs the earbuds again and prop myself up in bed as close I can get to 37 degrees.  lol... I'm hoping this will trick me and my subconscious into staying awake..

I MUST find a cheap loungechair if this works.

I actually remember the name Lionheart from years ago.  There also used to be a huge following of avid phasers on this site but at the time I did not understand what was going on because I was not totally familiar with Monroe and phasing. I just read and moved on to continue trying to be a tree.
Jenn :-)

Coder or Programmer. Heavens no, lol. I first started using the cellphone for the first time in February 2022 and that was the month my wife died. The cellphone was hers. Anyone that knows me can vouch for that too, lol!  :-D

Just my thought. I would say the 37-degree angle would have to do with being "ergonomically correct". I have a completely ergonomically correct chair, known as the "Lafuma". It doesn't put any pressure on the spine at all. It feels like you are floating when you are in it.

I have never used Robert's tapes. I did buy a program from another guy though, but they were not Robert's or the Monroe tapes.

Yes, this Forum was much busier in the past. I guess it's a sign of the times. It's hard to stay focused on NPR exploration. The physical fights back and consumes all of your attention.

Quote from: Blossom on July 30, 2023, 14:03:23
I found this link.  I hope this is the correct one.  The two you posed were the exact same link.. So I went searching for that doorway technique..

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_doorway-t46013.0.html  (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_doorway-t46013.0.html)

This is a long post.  Fixing to read it in it's entirety..
Thank you so much!

Jenn

Yes, that is the one. It shows my personal evolution with NPR exploration. In the end it all came down to the ability to discern the different levels of brain frequency and the ability to utilize "mental motion". To be able to move forward, backwards, right or left into the darkness and actually feel that etheric sensation, is the most important thing I have learned to aid me in "navigating" the NPRs that I found myself in.

Quote from: Lumaza on July 30, 2023, 18:56:06
Coder or Programmer. Heavens no, lol. I first started using the cellphone for the first time in February 2022 and that was the month my wife died. The cellphone was hers. Anyone that knows me can vouch for that too, lol!  :-D

Just my thought. I would say the 37-degree angle would have to do with being "ergonomically correct". I have a completely ergonomically correct chair, known as the "Lafuma". It doesn't put any pressure on the spine at all. It feels like you are floating when you are in it.

I have never used Robert's tapes. I did buy a program from another guy though, but they were not Robert's or the Monroe tapes.

Yes, this Forum was much busier in the past. I guess it's a sign of the times. It's hard to stay focused on NPR exploration. The physical fights back and consumes all of your attention.

I am so extremely sorry about your wife.  Learning to be alone is big deal.

I was married 25 years and he just up and left.  Rented an apartment 1/4 down the road.  It's been two years and I have yet to see his apartment.  It's just not my thing to be his buddy..

I have to turn the computer off.  We are fixing to be hit by a big storm..

I am going to look up Lafuma..  I've not heard of it before but I was searching meditation chairs today..

I will keep you in my thoughts..  Jenn

Today I'm going to immerse myself like I did yesterday.  I'm excited since learning I CAN stay awake by sitting up..

I definately reached focus 10 several times yesterday afternoon.  But I'm not sure what exactly focus 12 is supposed to feel like. I'm going to keep just going with the flow. Monroe say once you reach focus10 to just count from 10-12 and you will be there.  I absolutely reached a point where I could not feel my body but at the same time, my mind was still actively thinking and listening.  

I also understand what happens now when I fall asleep.  I get all these random thoughts shooting through my head that takes over VS listening to monroe and observing.  When those random thoughts start occurring, that's right before I fall asleep.  So I MUST keep those thoughts pushed down and recognize them as they are occurring in order to stop them and maintain my focus. If I don't recognize them, I can't stop them. I recognized them several times yesterday and stopped them.

The first one I'm starting with today is wave2-recording2 - Problem solving.  I think I will put "sleeping during meditation" in my big wooden box.  :roll: :lol:  I ended with this one yesteray but I'm going to start with it again. If I stay awake again, I'll move to the next, which is one month patterning.  I can't imagine what that one is.

I can tell the tapes "b-beats" are also different in this wave.  I like how they are making me feel.  

Jenn  :-D

p.s.  I realize I might be doing these slower than others might but I just want to make sure I "have it" before moving on. I feel like I am actually learning a method of control.

So happy!!

I finished Problem Solving, Patterning and Breathing Color.  I stayed awake.

All of these are, in my opinion, are a way to elicit change based on focus and energy manipulation.

In problem solving, you put your problem out in the universe and wait for the answer to your problem.  The problem I had with this is how I relate to myself as a human.  I ask for nothing from nobody.  Other people that view me may think I have problems, but I really don't.  So I wasn't sure what to ask for. I have a house, I have a garden, I have a car.  My bills are paid. I have plenty of food and clothes.  I have awesome grown kids and awesome grandkids. There might be things I want but there is nothing that I really need. I have a hole in my roof that is fixed by a bucket on rainy days.  On sunny days, I tape a trashbag over the hole.  I don't see that as a problem.  It's just how I live at this moment. I feel lucky to have roof over my head.  It's not a perfect roof, but it's my roof. There is a homeless shelter a few blocks away.  Those people have problems.

I wish one day for a little 600' foot house out on one acre to live the rest of my life that is off the grid.  But that is not a problem.  It's just a desire.  So I put that in patterning. Patterning is basically visualizing what your are, spirtually, emotionally, physically etc and willing it to happen.  This will be interesting.  I have had open heart surgery a few years ago.  I wished for my heart to be normal with all the calcium gone from my valves. And its actually doing really good.  I can do physically anything I want to do.  I have surprised myself with my vigor. I mow my yard.  I can move 5 yards of compost with a wheel barrow.  I am doing great heartwise. I've surprised my docs.

Color breathing was easy for me.  I do this all the time.  I usually breath lilac or purple or white.  In this exercise, it was green.  I concentrated it on my left leg which seems to jerk during these sessions.  So I tried to breathe green and imagine all my energy blockages cleared out.

I did these three recordings back to back since I was staying awake.

My son is coming over in a bit and after he leaves, I am going to continue with wave2. I have not told him about me doing the monroe tapes.  He is 40 and until the last couple years, he has been very rigid as far as religion. I'm not quite sure how he would view this. I realize these aren't religious recordings but he already worries about me going to hell since I am like I am ..  haha  I may tell him anyway. :lol:  He is more relaxed than he used to be.  Not much but a little..

But the next two recordings are Energy bar tool and the living body map..  I read the synposis on these in Monroes manual.  I think these will both be very insteresting.

I'm looking forward to starting wave3..

Jenn

p.s.  A little story and me and energy manipulation..  

When I was around 38-39 years old, I had a hysterectomy..  After they sent me home, I got very very sick with extremely high fever within a couple days.  They had to re-admit me.. I was half dead with ecoli of the blood stream but at the time they did not know what I had.  I was so sick I did not care if I lived or died.  I felt that bad. They drew blood many times that first 24 hours and put me on IV antibiotics trying to cover all their bases.  

The next morning they came in and gave me the results of my blood test.  They told me I had gram neg rods in my blood but they still weren't sure what was causing it.  They did not know I had ecoli of the blood stream yet. I snuck out of my room that night and crept into the hospital library and read about gram neg rods.  I deducted that I had ecoli.  I went back and told my husband I had ecoli..  That morning they came in and said "You have ecoli"..  Husband just looked at me as he did not believe my diagnosis when I told him what was wrong the previous night.

When my husband went to sleep later on, I dragged me and my iv outside and got in our truck and started concentrating on my blood. I spent 45 min.  I was wet with sweat from my concentration.  All of a sudden, I felt WHOOSH.  From the bottom of my feet to the top of my head, I felt every vein, every artery in my body heat up rapid fast.  WHOOSH.  A wave of energy from my feet to my head that was red hot.  The hot energy traveled through my blood stream in a split second killing the ecoli.

I gathered my pole and went back to my room where my husband was frantic.  The nurses and him had been looking for me.  I told him I was cured and that I no longer had ecoli.  The nurse came in and I told her the same thing.  She didn't say anything but looked at me like I was crazy.  They drew more blood.  The next morning, test came back that ecoli was completly gone.

I was cured.  I knew I was.  I felt it. WHOOSH.. Hot energy.

They gave me many prescriptions and told me how to set up home health, which I never did.  I just resumed life..

And that's how I cured myself of ecoli of the blood stream.  So I believe in breathing color.  100 percent.

And I must add.  I have no idea how I did it.  I did have major intent as I concentrated.  That's one thing.  It just worked.  It just came together.  But I absolutely knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that I was cured.  I could TELL.  I felt it.

Quote from: Blossom on July 31, 2023, 15:20:46

In problem solving, you put your problem out in the universe and wait for the answer to your problem.  The problem I had with this is how I relate to myself as a human.  I ask for nothing from nobody.  Other people that view me may think I have problems, but I really don't.  So I wasn't sure what to ask for. I have a house, I have a garden, I have a car.  My bills are paid. I have plenty of food and clothes.  I have awesome grown kids and awesome grandkids. There might be things I want but there is nothing that I really need. I have a hole in my roof that is fixed by a bucket on rainy days.  On sunny days, I tape a trashbag over the hole.  I don't see that as a problem.  It's just how I live at this moment. I feel lucky to have roof over my head.  It's not a perfect roof, but it's my roof. There is a homeless shelter a few blocks away.  Those people have problems.

This is such a good attitude to live life. Gratitude is the magic that brings forth content. And we have to be careful what words do we use in our daily thinking and communication with others. The word "problem" is really problematic. It will reinforce and manifest more of it. I refrain from using strong negative words any more. If I observe something not per my taste I say "This doesn't resonate with me. It's not a part of my world", and I don't focus on it. I let it go. I try not to use words like "I don't like", or "I hate". It really softens the resistance type of energy within us that creates barriers.
   Even big names such as Robert Monroe, William Bulman, Dolores Cannon have admitted that their view and beliefs also change and they don't perceive things the way they did in the past. My suggestion to everyone is when you read or follow something from someone, check if your intuition tells you is right. Everyone has their own truths. Follow your own instincts. They may change as well down the road, but do things that resonate with you in the now.

Quote from: LightBeam on July 31, 2023, 15:40:14
This is such a good attitude to live life. Gratitude is the magic that brings forth content. And we have to be careful what words do we use in our daily thinking and communication with others. The word "problem" is really problematic. It will reinforce and manifest more of it. I refrain from using strong negative words any more. If I observe something not per my taste I say "This doesn't resonate with me. It's not a part of my world", and I don't focus on it. I let it go. I try not to use words like "I don't like", or "I hate". It really softens the resistance type of energy within us that creates barriers.
   Even big names such as Robert Monroe, William Bulman, Dolores Cannon have admitted that their view and beliefs also change and they don't perceive things the way they did in the past. My suggestion to everyone is when you read or follow something from someone, check if your intuition tells you is right. Everyone has their own truths. Follow your own instincts. They may change as well down the road, but do things that resonate with you in the now.

Thank you for that.. Seriously.

Hi Blossom, thank you for sharing your experiences here with us. I've been lurking around this thread and following along since day one. I haven't chimed in on the topic simply because I have not done Gateway so left it to the those more knowledgeable and experienced.

I really enjoyed reply #30 above. We have so much in common. You may have come here for advice and encouragement but dear heart you are giving so much more. Thank You

Quote from: Nameless on July 31, 2023, 16:25:45
Hi Blossom, thank you for sharing your experiences here with us. I've been lurking around this thread and following along since day one. I haven't chimed in on the topic simply because I have not done Gateway so left it to the those more knowledgeable and experienced.

I really enjoyed reply #30 above. We have so much in common. You may have come here for advice and encouragement but dear heart you are giving so much more. Thank You

Oh my goodness, thank you so much but I receive a lot from you guys.  You have no idea how much lurking I've done on this site for 21 years.  It has helped evolve me and change me for the better.  It has opened my eyes to possibilites. I never thought I would be doing the Monroe tapes but here I am. And I'm so incredibly grateful there is a place to share it.  You brought tears to my eyes..

This is just information that I find interesting in the main manual to the Gateway Experience.

This is the affirmation:

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The Gateway Affirmation
I am more than my physical body. Because I am more than physical matter, I can perceive that
which is greater than the physical world. Therefore, I deeply desire to Expand, to Experience; to
Know, to Understand; to Control, to Use such greater energies and energy systems as may be
beneficial and constructive to me and to those who follow me. Also, I deeply desire the help
and cooperation, the assistance, the understanding of those individuals whose wisdom,
development, and experience are equal to or greater than my own. I ask their guidance and
protection from any influence or any source that might provide me with less than my stated
desires.

And this is what he says about it:

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(Note: This Affirmation has evolved over time. On some Gateway Experience tapes it may be
slightly different from the way it is presented here. Both versions will help you make the most
of your experiences. Remember, it is the intent rather than the words themselves that is
important.)

Comments From Robert A. Monroe Regarding The Gateway Experience

Sometimes it's hard to determine a beginning, the point where an idea becomes a reality. The
Gateway Programs are not in this category. We remember well when they started.
In 1973, at Whistlefield Research Laboratories, in Afton, Virginia, we were conducting
research studies on the effects of the environment on human consciousness. The Esalen
organization at Big Sur, California, famous as the birthplace of many new trends in psychology
and philosophy, heard of our work and invited us to conduct a weekend workshop at their
facility. As a result, we had many requests to repeat the process elsewhere. Our Executive
Committee approved this new activity as a means of broadening our research model – and
indeed it did. Originally called the M-5000 Program, sessions were held on weekends at
various sites throughout the United States and Canada. Several thousand individuals from all
walks of life participated in this constantly evolving series of training exercises. When we
understood better the process taking place, we renamed it the Gateway Voyage Program –
because what we were presenting was a Gateway, a means by which the individual could move
into the exploration, knowledge, and understanding of oneself as well as the many reality
systems where one has existence. The Gateway Experience is a special version of the Gateway
Voyage Program. Designed for in-home application, it incorporates methods and techniques of
the Gateway, adapted so that you can benefit from it wherever and whenever you so desire.
Consisting of six exercises on tape cassettes, Discovery is the first album in this course. There
are a total of six albums (thirty-six tapes) in the Gateway Experience. Sequentially, the
remaining albums are: Threshold, Freedom, Adventure, Exploring, and Prospecting. Each tape
and album contain a specific pattern of training. Accordingly, it is very important that you
work with them in sequence. With in-home training, you have a definite advantage. You can
repeat each exercise until you feel comfortable and proficient with its use. Do this. Then move
to the next.

The sound pattern you will hear on the tapes is a scientific process that helps you develop and
absorb these Gateway states of consciousness. It is not hypnosis, although some of the
techniques seem similar. The Gateway forms of consciousness show significantly different
EEG brain-wave patterns from those of hypnosis subjects. At present, there is controversy as to
what such patterns truly mean and how to categorize them. What can you expect from the
Gateway Experience? As much or as little as you put into it. The exercises provide you with a
set of tools – how you use them and what you do with them is your responsibility. Some
discover themselves for the first time, and thus live more completely, more constructively.
Others reach levels of awareness so profound that only one such experience is enough for a
lifetime. Still others become seekers-after-truth and add an on-going adventure to their daily
activities. There is one basic promise – that you seriously consider the Gateway Affirmation at
the least a possibility: that you are more than your physical body, that you can and do exist in
energy systems that are not limited to time-space, that you can and do communicate with
intelligence beyond your physical consciousness – call it what you will.

I'm going to write my own affirmation using his as a guideline.  But I want one that is tailored to me.  His is so involved..  Mine will be shorter.  The universe knows my intent.  I'm going to use something a little simplier with the same intent.

Jenn

Well I didn't get to meditate last night just due to circumstances of life.

My daughter n law will be here within the hour.  As soon as she leaves, I'll be ready to create my EBT (energy bar tool). I'm excited about this recording.

So in the meantime, I'm sitting here thinking about what I want to use as my EBT.  I have four crystals.  "Three from my sister and neice" and one showed up in my back yard after a rain when I was just standing there.  It's a small little crystal but I love it. It's the first crystal I have ever found.

These are the three I am possibly choosing from. The fourth one I'm not including as its not appropriate due to the shape. The smallest one (the one I found in my yard) is approx (and I'm guessing) 1.5" in length.  Thinking about making a necklace out of it...if I use that one.  I'll have to find some instructions.  I have never DYI-ed any type of jewelry. 

(https://i.ibb.co/hDbMj2b/the-one.jpg)

In the monroe manual for this wave, Monroe says we can use something external OR use our hands. This just feels like a big decision to me. I know there is no right or wrong here, but I just want to be sure. As far as things in the house to use for my EBT, I'm leaning toward a crystal.  All three of these have a special meaning or connotation to me.

Anyway, I'll be doing my EBT recording and my living body map recording in just a bit. Then wave 3, which I am really looking forward to. 

These are the wave 3 titles.  I'm getting to the good stuff..

QuoteWave III Exercises
Freedom #1—Lift Off
Freedom #2—Remote Viewing
Freedom #3—Vectors
Freedom #4—Five  Questions
Freedom #5—Energy Food
Freedom #6—First Stage Separation

I'll be back this afternoon and update this.. 
Jenn

p.s.  I have a question that maybe someone knows the answer to.  Can you change your EBT at a later time or can you have more than one?

 Hello Jenn.

I work with Crystals and copper wire for a living. I make Crystal Amplifiers, which is my version of wire wrap tree sculptures and sell them at various Renaissance, craft and gift shows throughout the country here.

Personally, I would take a good 22 or 20 gauge copper wire, that you can buy in a craft store, and bond all of those together as one single piece. You said each one has a sentimental value to you. So, utilize all of them together as one powerful tool! All you would have to do is to coil them together. You could work on decorating it at a later time if you so wish to. Have fun with it. Close your eyes before you start and visualize what it would look like. Then have at it!   :-)

Quote from: Lumaza on August 01, 2023, 10:51:35
Hello Jenn.

I work with Crystals and copper wire for a living. I make Crystal Amplifiers, which is my version of wire wrap tree sculptures and sell them at various Renaissance, craft and gift shows throughout the country here.

Personally, I would take a good 22 or 20 gauge copper wire, that you can buy in a craft store, and bond all of those together as one single piece. You said each one has a sentimental value to you. So, utilize all of them together as one powerful tool! All you would have to do is to coil them together. You could work on decorating it at a later time if you so wish to. Have fun with it. Close your eyes before you start and visualize what it would look like. Then have at it!   :-)

Wow! That sounds like a really good idea..  I'm so glad I came here and read that.  I have tried numersous times to listen to the tape about the EBT and I am back to falling asleep again.  I am fixing to just go to bed and get super rested and try it in the  morning.  I tried in my big comfy chair with an ottoman  and feel asleep. Tried twice in the bed.  Tried my computer chair.  etc etc...

I am going to have to look up Crystal Amplifiers to get a better idea of what that is.  Wire wrapped tree sculptures? That has sparked my interest.  I would LOVE to use all four pieces.  The fourth one is a purple quartz.  I had been looking up pendant blanks for necklaces and none were exactly what I was wanting.  You may have solved my issue.  YouTube, here I come..

You have an awesome job by the way!! Thank you thank you thank you!!!

Jenn
Jenn

I've lost count of how many times I have listened to the EBT tape.  If I had to take a guess, including yesterdays attempts, I would say approx 10-12 times.  :-o  Maybe more.  It flat knocks me out cold.  I wake when he says "Return now to full physical waking consciousness", which is right at the end of the tape. This happens every single time.  I lose consciousness on this tape before I can even get to focus 10. Every single time.  My crystal is still in my hand when I wake up..

I'm fixing to sit in my chair and just play it with no headphones or earbuds just to hear it and see what I've missed while I eat breakfast. I don't consider this a failure.. This tape just affects me.  But it's a little frustrating. This is a process I am going through. I need to center myself and ground myself today.  Its been so hot in SW Missouri.  But I am going to go outside and feel the sun today from my porch.  I think I need that. I have not been in the sunshine in two days.  I water my garden as the sun is setting.

But I am moving onward to the next recording which is living body map.  I will HAVE to come back to the one on EBT.  Crapola..

Ho hum....   Jenn

p.s.  My book by Monroe came.  I have it on the shelf with my other books.

I'm going to water my garden and listen to the EBT recording with my headphones.  I'll kill three birds with one stone.  Getting some sun to revive me, plants need water AND get to hear this tape in its entirety.  Takes about 45-1hr to water my plants.

Well, I just finished my EBT recording.  I stayed awake and went into a nice deep trance.  

I could not do it exactly like he was telling me.  This recording moved a little too fast for me to get into my focus 10-12 at the beginning. So I was a little behind at first.  I had to visualize that I was standing upright with my arms in front of me holding my crystal/light in both out reached hands in order to maintain focus. I can't just see something specific in the blackness.  I have to shift my mental focus to ME but away from my physical body in order to SEE anything.  My 'spirit feet' (or whatever you call them), when I do this, are where my physical head is and I'm standing upright at a 90 degree angle to my body and facing the length of my body.  I just flip up.  When I would do tree meditations and pretend to be a tree, this is also how I was planted in relation to my body. I would hold my spirit arms wide and try to feel the breeze..

Anyway....after I did that, the rest was just fine.  I could see it changing colors as he told me to change them. But I kept it in my outreached hands in front of me. The blue was the most difficult to maintain however.  And my yellow kept trying to fade to orange.  I did have a little trouble going from white to black or turning it off and on in the faster paced instructions.  But I do feel this recording was a success.

This is one I can definately practice on without the tape.

If the tape had not ended, I would have been in the void very soon.  I also listened to this tape in it's entirely TWICE while watering my garden today.  I missed a lot sleeping through it.

Next, and I plan on doing it right now, is the living body map. I suspect I may have to shift my awareness from my physical during this one as well.  I'll try it his way first..

Moving on...
Jenn

And I must add, I love Monroes voice.  It is very soothing.

Living body map..

My body tingled the entire time this tape played. It was not a difficult recording to follow.  I think I needed this more than I know.  I envisioned my energy bar, that was created in the last recording, in my spirit hands sweeping up and down my body cleansing, recharging and restoring everything. I never would have thought something like this would be or feel so beneficial to me. After it was over, I just lay there and stretched like a cat.  It was great!  I have had minor surgery on my lower back less than a year ago and major surgery on my neck about six years ago due to nerves being pinched (I'm fine now).  When I stretched, my back popped. I am so grateful for that.. I can't even explain how great that felt. I really do feel renewed. I felt a lot of movement in my lower legs during this recording. Like waves. Waves like from my ankles to mid calf.

It's been about 10 minutes since the recording ended and I still feel tingly. The colors were not difficult to envision.  I still have sounds in my head as well. 

This is also a recording I could do without the tapes.  The benefit of that would be longer sessions of healing. I feel excellent right now.

These last two recordings will forever be in my arsenal..

AND NOW, I have made it to wave3.. I've been looking forward to this.  After my little 'floating experience in the corridor' during tape 5 (I think) of wave 1, I have hope.  Trying hard not to have any expectations, but its difficult not to. Trying hard to surpress the urge to jump up and down yelling "I made it to wave3... I made it to wave3..."  I'm not going to do that.   :-D :-D :-D

Hoping for a tiny beam from Scotty,
Jenn

p.s.  The big decision:  tonight or tomorrow..  Prob one more tonight..  I'm on a row staying awake..

Not every session will resonate immediately; some work instantly, others don't or won't, or take time...

You mentioned having to visualize...I am assuming you did this to help the process move along because the visuals didn't automatically show up when you expected.

This is normal at some point in sessions like these...it involves a process of "priming the pump" or helping the visualization to either get started or to continue. I first read about it in some books relating to TMI sessions, and honestly, I rejected the idea out of hand, at least, at first...I don't like the idea of creating anything artificial or that can be construed as fantasy or "making it up as you go along"...

Probably during my third course at TMI, I realized I was getting nowhere early in the first couple days and had to redefine my strategy, and that is when I added a little creative imaging to my Hemi-Sync...and it wasn't in the first thirty seconds, but maybe after a minute or two of my own personal visualization, imaging interactions, imagining dialogue with other entities...BOOM...the visuals and dialogue carried on without my conscious input...I was quite amazed and found a new respect and understanding for the technique of Priming The Pump...

So, yeah, that is part of the learning...and the learning doesn't appear to ever stop...

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on August 03, 2023, 01:33:14
Not every session will resonate immediately; some work instantly, others don't or won't, or take time...

Ok, I'll remember this.

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on August 03, 2023, 01:45:02
You mentioned having to visualize...I am assuming you did this to help the process move along because the visuals didn't automatically show up when you expected.  

This is normal at some point in sessions like these...it involves a process of "priming the pump" or helping the visualization to either get started or to continue. I first read about it in some books relating to TMI sessions, and honestly, I rejected the idea out of hand, at least, at first...I don't like the idea of creating anything artificial or that can be construed as fantasy or "making it up as you go along"...

Ok, priming the pump..  Never heard of that. But I understand what you mean.. Great name for it too. And yes, that is exactly why I did it.  I could not see the white dot.  Tried hard.  I saw not a white dot but lots of static looking type stuff like when you just close your eyes with no trance.  Like I said, this recording moved so fast for me. I didn't have time to settle.  I had to do something. It was just what I chose in order to see the white dot.  Without the dot, how could I continue to make it a line or a rod? If I had not listened to it in my garden twice, I wonder what I would have done.  I knew it was coming is my point.  I knew ahead of time.

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on August 03, 2023, 01:45:02
Probably during my third course at TMI, I realized I was getting nowhere early in the first couple days and had to redefine my strategy, and that is when I added a little creative imaging to my Hemi-Sync...and it wasn't in the first thirty seconds, but maybe after a minute or two of my own personal visualization, imaging interactions, imagining dialogue with other entities...BOOM...the visuals and dialogue carried on without my conscious input...I was quite amazed and found a new respect and understanding for the technique of Priming The Pump...

So, yeah, that is part of the learning...and the learning doesn't appear to ever stop...

You are the perfect person to read my experiences and give me advice or insight.  You have walked my road that I am creeping down. I am enjoying these so much that I've already wondered, "what will I do when I finish?" This thought has crossed over me several times.  I DO know I'll get recording 8.  There is no way I'll do seven waves and NOT do the final one.  You know?  From there, I don't know.  I read somewhere online that one of Monroes goals is to have people not need the recordings any longer to reach these other states of consciousness.  So I will prob play with my knowledge for a bit and see what happens. I don't think there is a point where you are finished.  Once this door is open, I don't see it closing again.

The monroe tapes are much more than I thought they would be.  I thought it was just a way to achieve an obe. It is much more than that.  I can see this being a life long endevour.  This may sound stupid but I want to experience the planets.  I want to see Saturns rings. I want to see Jupiters gassy surface. I want to go beyond what is known in our universe. I want to see a black hole.  I want to see the sun. I would dearly love to visit an alien civilization. I also want to go back to the blue place, which was my first.  I would really love to sit with my sister who I don't get to see but once every couple or three years.  She has told me her door is always open to my spirit.  She keeps something on her mantle for me to identify. I am hoping to gain this ability to see her. I know it's possible.  I just have to learn how to consciously project to a certain place.  She is about eight hours driving from me.

I did not do the first wave3 recording tonight.  I went to bed and slept a couple hours.  It is 3:37am here.  I ate a little applesauce and I'm making some decaf.  I'll going to sit and read for an hour or so and I'll see if I'm sleepy or ready for another recording. I'm really glad I am retired and a non worker.  My time is my own.

Well, my decaf is ready.. I'm going to have a cup and lurk around a little and read other people stories or methods or what nots..

Thank you EscVel. :-)

Jenn

p.s  Question:  Did I taint my results for the EBT by listening to it in my garden? I listened to it because I tried many times to get through it and kept falling asleep. Did that effect my results in your opinion?  

I have a question for anyone who might be knowledgable.

I read online (google) that before you use a crystal or make it your own for uses like my "energy bar tool", that I need to cleanse it of any energy residue.

It gave suggestions of burying it a few inches below the surface of the ground for a period of 7-8 days
OR
soaking it in salt water for approx 8 hrs.

Those are the two methods I remember..

Just wondering if anyone has any knowledge of this.

I am really thinking of burying my four crystals for a week in my garden just to be on the safe side.  They crystals that were given to me -- I have no idea of their orgin.  I don't know the orgin of the one I found either but it was already on the ground when I found it.  The rain had to have brought it up to the surface.

OmCasey does a not of crystal work, maybe she'll pop in and see your question.

Quote from: Blossom on August 03, 2023, 04:45:57

p.s  Question:  Did I taint my results for the EBT by listening to it in my garden? I listened to it because I tried many times to get through it and kept falling asleep. Did that effect my results in your opinion?  

I personally would not worry about that. Gateway, for me, has a bunch of filler tracks that we don't revisit or often use the tools of. TMI certainly don't use some of them in programs beyond Gateway). The most important thing here is identifying for yourself how you experience each focus level so that you can move between them simply by reexpreiencing that felt sense of it. And this plays into our expectations, which have been brought up a few times on the thread. Yes, it's good to not have expectations and it's one thing to say it but identifying the subtle ways we expect are important as well. For example, you may be subtly expecting your experiences in the exercise to be presented to you primarily in a visual format as that is the predominant way you experience as your human self. As a result of such an expectation you maybe blocking other sense which perhaps may be stronger for you.


And so coming back to identifying focus levels more easily, depending on what your stronger senses are,  you may identify focus states by maybe a sensorial experience, maybe you have visual markers, or perhaps some sound identifiers.  It's good to remember that visuals might not be your primary mode of experiencing. For me it was always sound coupled with a felt sense of knowing. I tried very hard for years for it to be visuals becaaue of it being an overriding human sense but it was an uphill battle becasue apparently its just not how I'm built non physically.

So in summation, two things, I would place more emphasis on identifying your unique way that you experience the focus levels (and also deepness is not necessarily a level of success. Varying levels of deepness can occur with any focus level. The shallow experiences can yield good stuff too. There is a misconception that the further the focus level, the deeper it gets - not necessarily true. You can be in focus 34 and be journalling your experience as it's happening. This is another choice of example of our subtle expectations and beliefs - on some level we might be assuming the higher the focus number the better and more deep it is. But its not true. FYI, Bob had all his experiences from the equivalent of a focus 10 state). And this leads to my second point of pay closer attention to the subtle ways you are placing expectations upon your experiences.

Quote from: Nameless on August 03, 2023, 06:35:03
OmCasey does a not of crystal work, maybe she'll pop in and see your question.

That would be awesome.. 

Quote from: floriferous on August 03, 2023, 08:47:55
I personally would not worry about that. Gateway, for me, has a bunch of filler tracks that we don't revisit or often use the tools of. TMI certainly don't use some of them in programs beyond Gateway). The most important thing here is identifying for yourself how you experience each focus level so that you can move between them simply by reexpreiencing that felt sense of it. And this plays into our expectations, which have been brought up a few times on the thread. Yes, it's good to not have expectations and it's one thing to say it but identifying the subtle ways we expect are important as well. For example, you may be subtly expecting your experiences in the exercise to be presented to you primarily in a visual format as that is the predominant way you experience as your human self. As a result of such an expectation you maybe blocking other sense which perhaps may be stronger for you.

This makes a tremendous amount of sense for me.  My dominate sense in my physical is definately not visual.  This is hard to write down as it is probably a flaw in how I am made and to reveal personal flaws is hard for me.. But no one knows me here, so here I got.  I judge things/people or guage things by how I feel about something.  Buts not exactly correct either.  Its very difficult to explain.  People in the physical world are not my strong suit by any means. People and the vibe they give off or the feeling they invoke in me depends on whether I let them in my world or not. As a result, I am the biggest loner in world. I completely stay away from most people and having to interact with them. I go to the store and places like that but 99 percent of the time I stay in my closed in world in my house. When I come across very nice people, I say the right things and appear to be very friendly but it is not the real me. It is not coming from my heart. I hide the real me.  I live in my head most of the time because of that. This has effected my relationships with everyone I have encountered in the last 26 years or since April 1997, when I met my husband.  I have a really nice neighbor.  I avoid situations where she is going to wave at me because I can't be her friend. To have friends, you have to be open on some level or have things in common with someone and I am closed on all levels except for how something or someone makes me feel.  I have accepted I will never be like I was, open and carefree. And that's ok.  I can accept that.  I already have.  I am still going through a process of "waking up", not just spiritually but in a physical sense as well. I don't doubt that I block my other senses.  You hit that exactly right.

As a result of being stifled for so many years, I changed.  So my dominate sense might not have anything to do with feelings at all. As I continue to wake up, things may change.  

Life is what it is. I am finally learning about me. I relish and look forward to internal change, and whatever it entails.

Quote from: floriferous on August 03, 2023, 08:47:55
And so coming back to identifying focus levels more easily, depending on what your stronger senses are,  you may identify focus states by maybe a sensorial experience, maybe you have visual markers, or perhaps some sound identifiers.  It's good to remember that visuals might not be your primary mode of experiencing. For me it was always sound coupled with a felt sense of knowing. I tried very hard for years for it to be visuals becaaue of it being an overriding human sense but it was an uphill battle becasue apparently its just not how I'm built non physically.

I can identify level 10 because I know how it feels.  I have been there many times during meditation. What I have noticed is that I am getting there much easier and faster since I have been using the monroe recordings.  It used to take me 45 min or so to reach mind awake/body asleep state in a traditional meditative sense.  Maybe these tapes create some sort of muscle memory, even though our brains are not a muscle.  So I identify with your "felt sense of knowing."  Focus 12 is a little odd for me.  I'm not sure what the difference is between 10 and 12..

Quote from: floriferous on August 03, 2023, 08:47:55
So in summation, two things, I would place more emphasis on identifying your unique way that you experience the focus levels (and also deepness is not necessarily a level of success. Varying levels of deepness can occur with any focus level. The shallow experiences can yield good stuff too). And secondly, pay closer attention to the subtle ways you are placing expectations upon your experiences.

My unique way of experiencing..  :-)  :lol: What I'm getting from this paragraph is only focus on what Monroe wants me to do and try to identify how I actually identify and experience each focus.  I can do that. And don't worry about deep or shallow.  Just be.  I bought a notebook for my Monroe notes.  This might be something to put in it.  'How I identify each level.  How it is unique to me.'

Stay focused and stay in the moment.  Remember how it feels to ME so I can return there easily.  And remain aware of subtle ways I might be influencing the experience.

I will do my best to keep a blank slate entering into each session.

I feel like I have a very strong mind, so anything is possible.  I can do this!!

Thank you ..  This was a good answer and explanation.
Jenn

p.s.  This is hard to post.  It feels very personal.. But no time like the present.  

Well, I tried to do wave 3, recording 1 but I got up after a few minutes.  I want to slow down before I start.  So I'm doing some deep breathing techniques etc.

Anyway, I looked down at my open computer drawer adn noticed everything in it cooresponds to Monroe's colors in the last two recordings.  Yellow, orange, blue, red, green, white and black.

I'm not saying this is some weird coincidence or anything like that, but it did strike me as an odd moment.  At least for me. 

So I snapped a picture..

(http://i.ibb.co/YNQ0NVd/tray.jpg)

I'm not as weird as I prob seem..  :lol: :roll:

Jenn

   

Fixing to try again..

I did liftoff, which is wave 3's first recording.

Not much talking in this one. I just listened and that's about it.  It was very relaxing.  I will prob do this one a few more times.  It's a nice break from the chatter.  I nearly broke off a few times with chatter in my own mind and brought myself back.  I did NOT fall asleep.

I did reach the mind awake/body asleep and maintained that..

Fixing to repeat.

Well, it is around 1:45am. I just got up and ate a little cold pinapple and made some decaf.

Liftoff is proving more difficult than I imagined.  I have done it four times but I don't feel like it is/was a success.. I have been unable to get in the right state of mind.  I'm basically having trouble relaxing enough to get into the tape.  My heart pounds when it plays.  In fact, I can feel my heart pound in my entire body.  I have tried deep breathing, different positions, both headphones and the ear buds. I finally went to sleep last night around 9pm with the ear buds in and just now woke up.

I don't know why I am having trouble with this recording. The first time I listened to it is the only time I have reached focus 10.

After I sit up a little bit, I'm going to give it another shot.  It's very disconcerting because I was so looking forward to wave3 and since it's proven more difficult for me, it bums me out a little.  

My adult son lives about an hour from me or so.  But he has a very good friend in the area where I live.  A nice family that feels like family to me. They know nearly everything about me so I don't have to pretend to be anything but myself.  They check on me weekly and make sure I am doing ok and we share veggies from our gardens..  So I went over there last afternoon yesterday.  The husband and I talked about hemi sync and Robert Monroe.  He had never heard of him BUT he listens to recorded sounds at night to awaken his pineal gland. He is part native american and he believes the same way I do about obes, astral topics etc.  He is a spiritual person. He makes for a good conversation.  The wife, the kids, the father-n-law never heard of Monroe either.  How Is that possible not to have heard of Robert Monroe?  :-o  Am I the one in a vaccuum or are they?   :| So I spread the joy yesterday.  He may buy the tapes for his own enrichment purposes. Come to think of it, if I had not had that first spontaneous OBE 20-21 years ago, I might not have heard of him either.  That was the beginning of my quest. When you know something so joyous and wonderous is real, you search for that.  That's how I found Monroe, Buhlman, Peterson, and Bruce.

I know the next tape is about remote viewing.  How can I move forward when I can't do liftoff?  Can't even get in the mindset.  Maybe today will be different.  I know someone told me not to repeat the tapes more than twice, but how I can move on when I can't master this one when they build on each other?

I feel like wave3 is preparatory tool to see where your strengths are. That might not be right but why else would remote viewing be just stuck in here at this stage of the game?

This is what he says in the manual about exercise 1 -- Liftoff

Quote from: Monroe on liftoff
Freedom #1—Lift Off
Center yourself in the "you" that is your nonphysical energy rather than in your physical body, and
practice until you are thoroughly familiar with the process. Surprisingly enough, you can help yourself
rise by "settling down." Think about how it feels to go up in an elevator. Repeated practice gives you
assurance that you can return safely and easily and, once you know this, it is quite easy to move farther
than the exercise provides.

He says repeated practice, so that's what I plan on doing until I have this one right.
I also found this.  This is what Monroe is saying about practice.

Quote from: Monroe on pacing the exercisesWork with each exercise in sequence after you feel comfortable with the one(s) proceeding. The right pacing is different for each of us; there are no rules. You may listen to one exercise daily for a week or a month and then work at a slower or faster pace with others. Trust your intuition to know when you are ready to move on.

But I think I need a new strategy on these tapes as they progress.  I may do a little of Robert Bruces energy work prior to the tapes from now on. It is relaxing, it opens me up, puts me in a great mind frame etc... I've always been partial to the brushing action as he calls it.  I actually brush my skin sometimes so I am familiar with the feel of a brush. I may do some chakra work as well..

It's been awhile..

I have a pdf version of NEW that is very old.  I got it before it cost money so it doesn't have pictures in it or anything like that.  But I added a table of contents based on each section and sub section in it.  And I also have the NEW version in my astra dynamics book as well, which is a little different than the pdf.  

So I am going to read a little bit and plan my strategy for pre-energy work for wave3.


Jenn

p.s.  At this rate, I may not get to read my new/used book by this time next year.. :-D :-D

Blossom-

The Gateway Experience home course was originally produced as cassette tapes, then later as CDs. Which one do you have and how many Waves is it?

I loaned out my Wave 3 and Wave 4 several years ago forget the specific contents of each. IIRC,  Liftoff is one or more sessions promoting the classic etheric OBE. At this point, it can be tricky to find that right mental state, as you are reporting. One observation you have made is partially correct and you have already suggested two good answers: Chakra balancing and some form of energy work. The heavy pounding of your heart is, in my opinion NOT your physical heart, but rather an overactive heart chakra or energy center. I have had to deal with it and it is commonly reported as a pre-projection phenomenon; and is also commonly reported in Sleep Paralysis episodes as the heavy pressure on the chest, a tightness, restriction of breathing leading to fear of suffocation; also a feeling like your heart is going to burst out of your chest. I have felt all these symptoms at one time or another and it has always been during or near etheric OBEs, never during my Phasing experiences.

I don't pretend to know exactly, but it seems to me that it is connected to the energy conduit or chakra most closely related to the form of OBE we are seeking to experience and the classical Theosophical theory appears to reinforce this idea. Early in our OBE evolution, it seems the non-physical (NP) energy is sourced from and through the first four lower chakras, which until we learn to balance and control and understand the nature of their energetic output, our early experiences often involve aspects relating to those chakras- Fear of mortality, prominent sexual energies, over-excitement, etc. And it's in the heart chakra that all that lower energy gets routed through and results in too much energy and too much confusing excitation.

Like you reported Jenn, I had a variety of OBEs as a child and nobody and nothing could explain them, so I shut up about it and determined to figure it out myself. Those answers started forming when, as a twelve year-old, I discovered Monroe's Journeys Out of the Body, in 1973. Stories about this particular book, almost literally falling into people's hands at the right time, are nearly legendary in numbers. And I think chakra theory and the multiple energy bodies/vehicles theory leading back into Hindu/Buddhist history is part of the explanation; but that's just my personal take on it and I stay open to new ideas and theories. When I took back up this practice in 2006, initially, it was rediscovering and understanding the etheric OBE. And with some success there, my experiences naturally progressed at some point into what Monroe called his Quick-Switch Method, which since then has generally become referred to as Phasing.

So, yes, I think some form of chakra work or balancing can only help. Robert Bruce's book Energy Work is excellent and his New Energy Ways worked for me to smooth out the energy pathways when I suffered the same difficulty as you. I disagree with some of RB's views on negative-entities, maybe because I simply never encountered them, but his NEW is basic, practical, easy and it works!

Getting relaxed enough and finding that correct mental state was always difficult for me. One trick that worked for me was to either try waking up an hour or two early and making an attempt or trying a WakeBackToBed techniique where I would go to bed and sleep for only three hours, then get up and read for an hour (no food and no exercise), and then try a visualization. In your case, you could listen to the Focus 10 Freeflow tape and once you feel in MABA, simply pull out the earbuds, continue in the F10 state and try various visualizations we call Rundowns. A big factor we discovered in promoting an etheric OBE was noticing whatever energetic sensations appeared and learning to allow and follow these sensations until they increase and at some point the release/liftoff happens. This involves a technique of "passively observing", not getting overexcited and not forcing the issue. These sensations can be visual or auditory or kinesthetic. You can hear and feel hurricanes or helicopters; you can feel rocking back and forth, floating or falling; the key is to remain calm and trust in the process. Rundown visualizations were discovered to often help initiate these sensations. Keep it simple- You can visualize dancing, ballet, snow skiing, surfing...any physical activity that involves rhythm and movement. An excellent Rundown was offered by Selski- The Trampoline. Simple and effective!

Hope that helps. I don't want to overload you but you are noticing all the right things and asking the right questions and getting great answers from everybody.
EV

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on August 04, 2023, 16:06:28
Blossom-

The Gateway Experience home course was originally produced as cassette tapes, then later as CDs. Which one do you have and how many Waves is it?

I loaned out my Wave 3 and Wave 4 several years ago forget the specific contents of each. IIRC,  Liftoff is one or more sessions promoting the classic etheric OBE. At this point, it can be tricky to find that right mental state, as you are reporting. One observation you have made is partially correct and you have already suggested two good answers: Chakra balancing and some form of energy work. The heavy pounding of your heart is, in my opinion NOT your physical heart, but rather an overactive heart chakra or energy center. I have had to deal with it and it is commonly reported as a pre-projection phenomenon; and is also commonly reported in Sleep Paralysis episodes as the heavy pressure on the chest, a tightness, restriction of breathing leading to fear of suffocation; also a feeling like your heart is going to burst out of your chest. I have felt all these symptoms at one time or another and it has always been during or near etheric OBEs, never during my Phasing experiences.

I don't pretend to know exactly, but it seems to me that it is connected to the energy conduit or chakra most closely related to the form of OBE we are seeking to experience and the classical Theosophical theory appears to reinforce this idea. Early in our OBE evolution, it seems the non-physical (NP) energy is sourced from and through the first four lower chakras, which until we learn to balance and control and understand the nature of their energetic output, our early experiences often involve aspects relating to those chakras- Fear of mortality, prominent sexual energies, over-excitement, etc. And it's in the heart chakra that all that lower energy gets routed through and results in too much energy and too much confusing excitation.

Like you reported Jenn, I had a variety of OBEs as a child and nobody and nothing could explain them, so I shut up about it and determined to figure it out myself. Those answers started forming when, as a twelve year-old, I discovered Monroe's Journeys Out of the Body, in 1973. Stories about this particular book, almost literally falling into people's hands at the right time, are nearly legendary in numbers. And I think chakra theory and the multiple energy bodies/vehicles theory leading back into Hindu/Buddhist history is part of the explanation; but that's just my personal take on it and I stay open to new ideas and theories. When I took back up this practice in 2006, initially, it was rediscovering and understanding the etheric OBE. And with some success there, my experiences naturally progressed at some point into what Monroe called his Quick-Switch Method, which since then has generally become referred to as Phasing.

So, yes, I think some form of chakra work or balancing can only help. Robert Bruce's book Energy Work is excellent and his New Energy Ways worked for me to smooth out the energy pathways when I suffered the same difficulty as you. I disagree with some of RB's views on negative-entities, maybe because I simply never encountered them, but his NEW is basic, practical, easy and it works!

Getting relaxed enough and finding that correct mental state was always difficult for me. One trick that worked for me was to either try waking up an hour or two early and making an attempt or trying a WakeBackToBed techniique where I would go to bed and sleep for only three hours, then get up and read for an hour (no food and no exercise), and then try a visualization. In your case, you could listen to the Focus 10 Freeflow tape and once you feel in MABA, simply pull out the earbuds, continue in the F10 state and try various visualizations we call Rundowns. A big factor we discovered in promoting an etheric OBE was noticing whatever energetic sensations appeared and learning to allow and follow these sensations until they increase and at some point the release/liftoff happens. This involves a technique of "passively observing", not getting overexcited and not forcing the issue. These sensations can be visual or auditory or kinesthetic. You can hear and feel hurricanes or helicopters; you can feel rocking back and forth, floating or falling; the key is to remain calm and trust in the process. Rundown visualizations were discovered to often help initiate these sensations. Keep it simple- You can visualize dancing, ballet, snow skiing, surfing...any physical activity that involves rhythm and movement. An excellent Rundown was offered by Selski- The Trampoline. Simple and effective!

Hope that helps. I don't want to overload you but you are noticing all the right things and asking the right questions and getting great answers from everybody.
EV

I have the downloadable flacs.  Seven waves.  I uploaded them to my icloud so they would be on my phone.

I don't mind you downloading them if you want.  Its the only thing on my icloud.  I don't use it.  Let me know.  I have all seven waves there. I have that 200 gb storage so I can share my stuff. Just let me know.

When I finish these, I am going to buy wave8 from amazon.  A flac there too.  I like the downloads.  I put them on icloud and also on my external hard drive. I like a back up copy.

I am going to have to read your post again before I can comment.  There is a lot there.  My ex is here tonight. He is usually here on the weekends. He is asleep so I can practice my meditations in a bit.

I am also going to buy a zero gravity chair for my meditation sessions vs the bed or a traditional chair.  I have been looking at them and when I went to my sons friends house yesterday, they had two on their patio.. OMG, those are wonderful chairs. I sat in it and couldn't believe how it felt. I can't get an expensive one.  I'm thinking about one that is by TimberRidge that is 33" wide.  I am only 5-3 and 129 lbs so I will have plenty of room.  I don't want a little bitty one.  I'm looking at this one at the link below and have it in my cart already.. It's so HARD TO HIT 'BUY'..   They sell cushions for them as well. I'll prob get a cushion and some arm rests.  It's going in my living room so I want it big and comfy.  

MY FUTURE CHAIR
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08FJ998C3/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08FJ998C3/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1)

I sent you a private message.

I'm fixing to re-read your message.  It's very involved.

Jenn  :-)

p.s.  I also ordered today the other two monroe books from ebay AND one called Cosmic Journeys I think by a student of his.  So when I finish the Gateway, I'll have some reading to do..    

WAVE 3
LIFT OFF
REMOTE VIEWING
VECTORS
FIVE QUESTIONS
ENERGY FOOD
FIRST STAGE SEPARATION

WAVE 4
ONE YEAR PATTERNING
FIVE MESSAGES
FREE FLOW 12
NVC 1
NVC2
COMPOINT 12

Quote from: EscapeVelocity
Liftoff is one or more sessions promoting the classic etheric OBE. At this point, it can be tricky to find that right mental state, as you are reporting. One observation you have made is partially correct and you have already suggested two good answers: Chakra balancing and some form of energy work. The heavy pounding of your heart is, in my opinion NOT your physical heart, but rather an overactive heart chakra or energy center. I have had to deal with it and it is commonly reported as a pre-projection phenomenon; and is also commonly reported in Sleep Paralysis episodes as the heavy pressure on the chest, a tightness, restriction of breathing leading to fear of suffocation; also a feeling like your heart is going to burst out of your chest. I have felt all these symptoms at one time or another and it has always been during or near etheric OBEs, never during my Phasing experiences.

That is exactly how this felt.  I could feel my heart beating all through my body.  I thought I was having a heart attack.  I got up out of the bed.

What is the difference between an etheric obe and phasing? I can look that up.. I don't want to be any trouble.  But I have experienced one OBE where I just clicked to another place that was not earthly.  It was not here on earth.  I have no idea where it was at.  But my etheric body was rolling around in the bed prior to clicking.  lol. And the others were all going through a straw that seemed to be attached to the back of my head and coming out in the clouds. I say the back of my head because that's how it felt.  Like I WAS being sucked through a straw in my back of my head.  A small tube.  The only other time was last week when I was floating in the corridor a week or so ago doing a monroe tape. And I might add floating like that and being able to control how far down I was or my speed was pretty awesome.  When it was happening, I just took it in stride.  One second I was in my bed and then all of a sudden I was floating down that corridor.  I am not sure how that happened.  I had no vibrations or anything.  It just happened all at once.  I just flowed from my bed and monroe to the corridor.  It was seamless.  

Quote from: Escape VelocityI don't pretend to know exactly, but it seems to me that it is connected to the energy conduit or chakra most closely related to the form of OBE we are seeking to experience and the classical Theosophical theory appears to reinforce this idea. Early in our OBE evolution, it seems the non-physical (NP) energy is sourced from and through the first four lower chakras, which until we learn to balance and control and understand the nature of their energetic output, our early experiences often involve aspects relating to those chakras- Fear of mortality, prominent sexual energies, over-excitement, etc. And it's in the heart chakra that all that lower energy gets routed through and results in too much energy and too much confusing excitation.

So I need to work on my heart chakra so the lower energy can forge upward.. got it! I may have a chakra book somewhere.  I know I used to,  Seems like I have read something about this before.  I just forgot about it at the time it was occurring. I'm sure there is something in RB's AD.

Quote from: EscapeVelocity
Like you reported Jenn, I had a variety of OBEs as a child and nobody and nothing could explain them, so I shut up about it and determined to figure it out myself. Those answers started forming when, as a twelve year-old, I discovered Monroe's Journeys Out of the Body, in 1973. Stories about this particular book, almost literally falling into people's hands at the right time, are nearly legendary in numbers. And I think chakra theory and the multiple energy bodies/vehicles theory leading back into Hindu/Buddhist history is part of the explanation; but that's just my personal take on it and I stay open to new ideas and theories. When I took back up this practice in 2006, initially, it was rediscovering and understanding the etheric OBE. And with some success there, my experiences naturally progressed at some point into what Monroe called his Quick-Switch Method, which since then has generally become referred to as Phasing.

One of my favorite books on my shelf is called "Awakening the Buddha Within by Lama Surya Das.  Excellent book.  I've read it cover to cover several times.  Just a really great mode to live by.  The 'eight fold path to enlightenment'.  Has a good section on meditation from the buddhist perspective.

And in your post you absolutely explained ethric OBE vs phasing question.   :-D  So ignore that question above..

Quote from: EscapeVelocity
I disagree with some of RB's views on negative-entities...

Me too.  I have his Practical Psychic Self Defense book but I can't bring myself to read it. I have never had a bad experience. I've never encountered an "entity" that made me afraid. Don't want to draw anything to me that could potentially change my mindset on fear of the unk.  We should be like children with enthusiasm for exploring the unk. It's like getting ready to take a vacation you have been planning your whole life.

I have also never seen a silver cord that so many people report.   I've never had to be connected to by body by a cord. I've never felt fear of being lost.   I have only had conscious experiences where I KNEW all I had to do was open my eyes for it to end.  I have never lost the knowledge during an experience that my physical body is in bed snoozing.

I just don't feel the need to protect myself from the unknown. OBE or quick change, phasing (any or all), is not a scary place in my eyes. It's a journey I look forward to.  And I look forward to learning HOW monroe's methodology works in relation to me.

Quote from: EscapeVelocity
Getting relaxed enough and finding that correct mental state was always difficult for me. One trick that worked for me was to either try waking up an hour or two early and making an attempt or trying a WakeBackToBed techniique where I would go to bed and sleep for only three hours, then get up and read for an hour (no food and no exercise), and then try a visualization. In your case, you could listen to the Focus 10 Freeflow tape and once you feel in MABA, simply pull out the earbuds, continue in the F10 state and try various visualizations we call Rundowns. A big factor we discovered in promoting an etheric OBE was noticing whatever energetic sensations appeared and learning to allow and follow these sensations until they increase and at some point the release/liftoff happens. This involves a technique of "passively observing", not getting overexcited and not forcing the issue. These sensations can be visual or auditory or kinesthetic. You can hear and feel hurricanes or helicopters; you can feel rocking back and forth, floating or falling; the key is to remain calm and trust in the process. Rundown visualizations were discovered to often help initiate these sensations. Keep it simple- You can visualize dancing, ballet, snow skiing, surfing...any physical activity that involves rhythm and movement. An excellent Rundown was offered by Selski- The Trampoline. Simple and effective!

What I'm did is take your advice.  I use VLC media player on my Iphone, and I can use that to loop the focus10 Freeflow so I can hear it multiple times.  I don't use the apple music app.  It doesn't play flac files anyway but VLC does.  I'll check out that trampoline.

Thank you for your insight.  It's valuable.
Jenn  

This meditation in the link "way down below" makes me feel so good..  It's for the heart chakra.  BUT, after his chanting, I could also feel it in my feet and ankles.  Nearly like an ache.

The reason this is weird is because I sufferered at one time nerve issues in my left foot.  I did not go to the doctor until it was really bad but I exercised it and stretched it at home and got it working again.  Now I walk normal BUT the nerves in it still give me issues.  So feeling this in my foot is not surprising.

As far as my heart, it has been through a lot in the past three years.  I used to be a smoker and I thought I had a clogged something in there.  I had a heart cath done and the doc came back in and said I needed immediate open heart surgery.  The admitted me on the spot.  This was during all the covid stuff so I couldn't have any visitors. My adult son did sneak in for a quick visit before my surgery. I was only in the hospital less than two weeks.  A week prior to surgery and then I went home four days after surgery. They replaced my aortic valve with a bovine variety. Did a triple bypass and put a clip on my left atrium.  I forced myself to walk a few hours after surgery.  It is more than I can go into here but I feel lucky to be alive.  I am completely healed. That as three years ago.

And then right at two years ago, my husband up and moved.  My heart has been through a lot. Physically and emotionally. But you know, poop happens. I discovered I really like living alone once I got over the shock of it all.   8-)  It was scary at first but I got everything all figured out now. It has empowered me a little. I'll never move backwards.

My point is (I get sidetracked), it doesn't surprise me that my heart chakra is blocked and I could feel this gentlemans chanting in those areas (heart and feet), even though it is supposed to be heart specific.  :-D  But I think I can unblock it. I NEED to unblock it for my spiritual growth.

I saved this link and plan on doing this meditation with him several times a day.  PLUS I am working on some RB NEW techniques as well.

Here's the link..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbaxm6Ea7fU&t=10s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbaxm6Ea7fU&t=10s)

This mans chanting, with headphones, vibrate through my entire body.  It is an amazing sound the way he vocalizes it..

Jenn

p.s.  Totally unrelated to anything here. 

But this video of a metal singer singing amazing grace is.. well..amazing..  And I'm not a metal fan.. I'm not religious either, however, I respect anyone who has strong personal convictions (rare nowdays) and you can tell he is singing from his heart chakra.. And that's why I like this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89g9yMGFGlM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89g9yMGFGlM)
 

From what you have described as your early OB experiences, it appears that you have had etheric, astral, mental and possibly higher level OBEs; and I think this is true for many experiencers, including myself. Being children and not having any knowledge of what was happening, other than our own intuitive instincts, upon reflection, I think many of these OBEs were blended in many ways- we almost seamlessly shifted from one to the other, from dreams to lucid dreams to dreamy etheric experiences such as flying in the night sky, which was one of my most favorite.

I've never noticed a silver cord of any kind, either.

These are some personal observations on differences between Etheric and Phasing OBEs:

Etheric

The visual environment is monochromatic- in shades of one color only: usually gray, dull green or dull brown (often described specifically as sepia)...never full technicolor.
The etheric energy body "feels" closer to the physical: It has a discernible weight and density to it. This relates, I think, to the slower rate of frequency.
Moving around in this state has a slow, ponderous, lethargic quality to it, like deep sea-diving, almost a drunk feeling.
Since we are NP and without the usual five senses, the new sensory input has to be interpreted and it is initially quite challenging to re-learn how to see, touch, move...the senses of hearing, smelling appear not to work at all.
Our range of exploration, possibly for energy usage reasons, appears very restricted- 20 feet to maybe 500 feet...the immediate room we projected within, maybe the apartment or house, maybe out to the front or backyard or a nearby field (my early childhood flights seemed to take place in a nearby field...later attempts were restricted to my house). Moving beyond these limits always involved a shift either into a higher body, a remembered location from my past, or I lost awareness.
Although etheric OBEs appear to be in the near-physical realm, distinct relocations of doorways, windows, furniture and fixtures often are reported, leading to questions about just how accurate this environment relates to the current physical one. Temporal overlays may be involved.
The duration of the OBE is usually quite short, maybe a few minutes.
The personal energy required seems to be considerable, hence the short duration. Energy work noticeably helps the exit and extends the duration.
Vision is very tricky since it is not PR photons on retinas. We are converting NP energy data into what we prefer as a visual. Hence, we get strange moments like 360 degree vision, seeing in all directions at once. Or seeing into closed drawers.
Examples of etheric projection are what we have read about in most of the literature most often, so it is what we expect to experience...rising out of the body and floating about. The truth is more likely that we have already experienced a number of different types of projections and the literature naturally inclines us to focus only on the one. That should also indicate something about the difference in the quality/extent of our personal experiences versus what we read in most of the books...
The etheric body is very closely associated with the physical body, so projecting requires learning to "shake" it loose in order to separate. When successful, it feels like we float up in ghostly form either in whole body form or from a particular point on the body- heart, brow or back/top of the head. This may relate to chakra activation.
Many times the exit involves great vibration, noise, winds howling, being shaken or violently pulled out...sometimes Invisible helpers are possibly pulling us out? Maybe at our subconscious request?
Looking at ourselves in the mirror can produce surprising results!

One thing at a time...

Phasing/Astral

Dreams and lucid dreams apparently take place in the astral plane/dimension. This is the home of our subconscious and there appears to be two distinct areas- the personal astral and the collective or astral proper. Our initial forays into the astral are restricted to the personal level until we have demonstrated a certain degree of control and maturity over our baser emotions- excitement, anger, sexuality, etc. Non-physical, sentient entities are actually watching us to some degree, at this point; we have shown up on their radar, so to speak. The greater community of the astral proper will not tolerate a bunch of hedonistic, misbehaving, immature astral travellers until we demonstrate manners, an acceptance of protocol and a willingness to be of service to the greater good. (I had only read about this ten years ago as theory, but my experiences since then have only confirmed these ideas)
In an astral OBE, we have moved from monochrome environments to full technicolor vistas and noticing the dullness or sharpness of your visual can be understood also as an indication of your level of awareness within the environment.
The astral body feels much, much lighter and "cleaner" than the etheric. Movement is much more natural and easy. It is like you naturally feel in a dream, just now with more awareness.
Shifting from PR to the astral is nearly instantaneous and can involve a multitude of evolving techniques, usually a visualization of some sort. Clicking instantly into a new environment is often reported.
The environments can and will likely vary, early on being sometimes quite simplistic, even cartoon-like. This soon changes to much more realistic.
We now begin encountering other characters and try communicating with them. At first, they seem soulless and empty...probably because they are just creations of our subconscious. Communication can be verbal, but often feels quite limited. This is where the early ideas of non-verbal communication or telepathy, start to become a recognizable option, even a necessity.
Often, in these experiences, thought-blocs or downloads become more noticeable...we realize large amounts of data/knowledge are being imparted to us in strange, new ways. New lines of communication and learning are opening up to us.
Often, we can levitate or fly or exercise other NP abilities; but also, sometimes we realize these abilities are somehow restricted. This is our early introduction to understanding that certain "rulesets" may be put in place. More on this later...
The duration of the experience is greatly increased to an hour or more...in fact, Time begins to lose the quality we perceive in Physical Reality (PR).
Emotions such as fear, anger and the sexual drive can become problematic and have to be controlled; this is a key part of the learning. The astral plane is also referred to as the emotional plane, and it is the battleground for learning control of our emotions.
We begin to realize that any new environment is often offering us the chance at a lesson, it is a learning environment. In one experience, failing a lesson can offer repeat experiences until we learn the lesson. We begin to realize that our learning has not ended. The learning is actually increasing.
Adherence to the environmental ruleset is crucial to fulfilling the lesson.
This is where the experiences and the learning really opens up...we get a really cool variety of experiences...and as good as this is, we realize there is SO much more...

More after a short break...

Phasing/Mental

In the Theosophical Model of Reality, our physical and spiritual evolution requires us to learn to develop and activate our consciousness within each of the energy bodies or vehicles of consciousness and how to navigate and operate upon the plane or dimension within which each of them resides. Those energy bodies/planes are the physical, etheric, astral, mental, causal, buddhic, nirvanic, monadic and divine. The final four bodies are considered beyond Space and Time and experiences within them are likely of the bodiless and formless regions described by Frank Kepple as F4. I'm not sure about the causal- maybe it is a perspective that straddles both sides, the form and the formless. Our experiences of "point consciousness" I think, are likely examples of causal or higher level experiences.
The mental body appears to be further sub-divided into the lower-mental and upper-mental and it seems likely that the lower-mental begins experiencing, at some point, within the upper-astral...maybe the astral proper? When I first read of this, some forty years ago, it all seemed like needless and artificial complication by an elitist cult of late 1800's Theosophical wanna-be prigs... but my experiences over the last ten years have only served to confirm the ideas. It could be a form of front-loading, but I don't think so. I actually now have a much better understanding of the divisions and definitions they came up with...and a pretty high degree of respect for the work they have done.
Perspective from the mental body or the mental plane is a step up from the astral- you go from full technicolor to HD-Blue-ray level clarity, both the environment and your awareness.
Characters you meet are nearly always sentient and intelligent beings; sometimes even somewhat dismissive. Some experiencers meet their Guides (we all have them) Instructors can sometimes show and explain concepts.
ETs are sometimes encountered.
The Monroe Institute has courses that explore these areas, the most prominent being Exploration 27, where they offer an opportunity to explore the Human Afterlife Regions of what is likely upper astral and mental plane areas.

Anyone feel free to add to my list

PS

I finally decided to do this in three parts. I almost lost the entire piece, at first...nearly losing two hour's work...and that has just happened too many times...so I went back and broke it down into manageable pieces, that if I lost one, it wouldn't put me over the edge! I know many of you understand that!

EV

QuoteOur experiences of "point consciousness" I think, are likely examples of causal or higher level experiences. The mental body appears to be further sub-divided into the lower-mental and upper-mental and it seems likely that the lower-mental begins experiencing, at some point, within the upper-astral...maybe the astral proper? When I first read of this, some forty years ago, it all seemed like needless and artificial complication by an elitist cult of late 1800's Theosophical wanna-be prigs... but my experiences over the last ten years have only served to confirm the ideas. It could be a form of front-loading, but I don't think so. I actually now have a much better understanding of the divisions and definitions they came up with...and a pretty high degree of respect for the work they have done. Perspective from the mental body or the mental plane is a step up from the astral- you go from full technicolor to HD-Blue-ray level clarity, both the environment and your awareness.

What you explain here was my first experience.  My very first obe. IT is the very thing that has driven me for 20 years. It is the most amazing thing to experience this.  There are no words.  When you are a dot, a speck of nothing, in a sea of one color..  Well, one color should be boring, but it's not. To see everything that is, at one time, up down and everything else is the primo obe that I experienced.  I saw a new undiscovered shade of blue that I have never seen since. For years, every time I saw blue, I compared the shades of colors to my new-blue. I can still see it. It is burned inside me. I will never forget it. In that obe, I only become afraid when those (how do I explain this), brilliant white orbs started rising upwards all around me.  As far as I could see.  And I could see a lot. There was no end to it or them. Do you remember the old lava lamps that used to be around? That is how the white orbs behaved.  The shapes were not symmetrical to each other. Some also rose faster than others.   The other thing that has always puzzled me is "how did I see?".  I had no eyes.  Not ethric or physical or any other kind. I was nothing. I had no substance, so how did I see? How do you see when you're there but also not there? Its an enigma because vision is a physical word that directly infers our eyes. And I could "see" everything at once, which is not possible with our knowledge of vision and the current limits of our eyes. And we are limited here in this plane. Very limited. Most don't know how limited. My vision was like an explanation of infinity. And that was the limit of my vision -- there was none.

The other thing..  When that obe occurred, I was not trying to obe. I'm not sure why but I feel that is an important point. There was no expectation, no worrying about "am I doing this right?", no looking or noticing.  I was just a tree feeling the wind.

When I came back, also, only 20 min had passed. It seemed like a much longer time.

It is very late here.  3:42am. I've been up for around 30-40 min.  Fixing to turn my FreeFlow recording on and lay back down. I'll have more comments on your replies tomorrow.  Lots of info to digest, to re-read, and look up parts of it.

Jenn

p.s.  Thank you for taking the time to be so detailed.  I like details.

 EV, you need to take those fantastic, well-articulated posts of yours above and copy and paste them into a new thread, that can be stickied. Your definitions and descriptions of the different modes of NPR explorations are pure GOLD! I had to settle with yellow, since there is no color gold for choices there!  :-D

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on August 06, 2023, 01:49:54
From what you have described as your early OB experiences, it appears that you have had etheric, astral, mental and possibly higher level OBEs; and I think this is true for many experiencers, including myself. Being children and not having any knowledge of what was happening, other than our own intuitive instincts, upon reflection, I think many of these OBEs were blended in many ways- we almost seamlessly shifted from one to the other, from dreams to lucid dreams to dreamy etheric experiences such as flying in the night sky, which was one of my most favorite.

I've never noticed a silver cord of any kind, either.

These are some personal observations on differences between Etheric and Phasing OBEs:

Etheric

The visual environment is monochromatic- in shades of one color only: usually gray, dull green or dull brown (often described specifically as sepia)...never full technicolor.
The etheric energy body "feels" closer to the physical: It has a discernible weight and density to it. This relates, I think, to the slower rate of frequency.
Moving around in this state has a slow, ponderous, lethargic quality to it, like deep sea-diving, almost a drunk feeling.
Since we are NP and without the usual five senses, the new sensory input has to be interpreted and it is initially quite challenging to re-learn how to see, touch, move...the senses of hearing, smelling appear not to work at all.
Our range of exploration, possibly for energy usage reasons, appears very restricted- 20 feet to maybe 500 feet...the immediate room we projected within, maybe the apartment or house, maybe out to the front or backyard or a nearby field (my early childhood flights seemed to take place in a nearby field...later attempts were restricted to my house). Moving beyond these limits always involved a shift either into a higher body, a remembered location from my past, or I lost awareness.
Although etheric OBEs appear to be in the near-physical realm, distinct relocations of doorways, windows, furniture and fixtures often are reported, leading to questions about just how accurate this environment relates to the current physical one. Temporal overlays may be involved.
The duration of the OBE is usually quite short, maybe a few minutes.
The personal energy required seems to be considerable, hence the short duration. Energy work noticeably helps the exit and extends the duration.
Vision is very tricky since it is not PR photons on retinas. We are converting NP energy data into what we prefer as a visual. Hence, we get strange moments like 360 degree vision, seeing in all directions at once. Or seeing into closed drawers.
Examples of etheric projection are what we have read about in most of the literature most often, so it is what we expect to experience...rising out of the body and floating about. The truth is more likely that we have already experienced a number of different types of projections and the literature naturally inclines us to focus only on the one. That should also indicate something about the difference in the quality/extent of our personal experiences versus what we read in most of the books...
The etheric body is very closely associated with the physical body, so projecting requires learning to "shake" it loose in order to separate. When successful, it feels like we float up in ghostly form either in whole body form or from a particular point on the body- heart, brow or back/top of the head. This may relate to chakra activation.
Many times the exit involves great vibration, noise, winds howling, being shaken or violently pulled out...sometimes Invisible helpers are possibly pulling us out? Maybe at our subconscious request?
Looking at ourselves in the mirror can produce surprising results!

One thing at a time...

My first 'real' (lol) OBE was an etheric projection. So I believe today.

It was also the only time I saw my body from above down in the bed. It never happened again. The "heaviness" you describe was also very pronounced.

I also talked to myself and it was 'heavy' (in a high pitch, very strange). And I had energy phenomena that were 'violent' and not vibrations. They were (imv today but I did not even know the concept or word back then) Kundalini (snake) related. I memory I never forget. All following were 'astral' projections into my room (or elsewhere) and when in my room I never saw my own body in bed again due to the 'reality fluctuations' (as Robert Bruce calls them). I have a longer description of it on my diary/blog, just re-read it now as I remembered. It was a personal event I never forget. And it remained unique til this day.

Quote from: Lumaza on August 06, 2023, 11:14:45
EV, you need to take those fantastic, well-articulated posts of yours above and copy and paste them into a new thread, that can be stickied. Your definitions and descriptions of the different modes of NPR explorations are pure GOLD! I had to settle with yellow, since there is no color gold for choices there!  :-D

I second that..

I am moving on to the next recording on wave 3.. I'm skipping remote viewing, which is recording 2, on wave 3.  
I need to talk to my sister about the experiments first because I need a second person in remote viewing.  There are three experiments that I need her to help me with.

So I'm fixing to do Vectors.  The first recording was Liftoff.  I have done that one many times. So Vectors is recording 3 of 6 in wave 3.

In the vectors exercise, I'm going to imagine a clock face over my body with 12 extending just past my head and 6 just past my feet - 3 will be just outside the left hip and 9 just outside the right hip.  Then I have to rotate the clock so that 3 is in front of my hips and 9 is behind me.  That will be interesting to try. :-)

I'm supposed to notice feelings associated with preceiving outside my physical body or changes in awareness in relate to position of the vector.

Jenn

p.s.  When I finish the Gateway series, there are several I want to buy from TMI.  One is a 45 min recording on the 5th dimension.  They have some very interesting stuff there.  Reasonably priced too.

I also noticed that the Gateway program to do at home does not include wave 3 and wave 4 or wave 7.  Its just waves 1, 2, 5 and 6.  What the heck? I wonder if that's the fluff tapes someone mentioned to me.

Vector recording -

This was a very good meditation done from the perspective of  focus 12. I felt minor vibrations and definate movement, especially in my lower legs.  Monroe basically talks you through moving your consciousness through each of the four numbers.  12, 6, 3, and 9 and back.  Both before and after you shift the clock face.  So this recording is an exercise in shifting your awareness around your body.

It was interesting. 

In my life, I never thought I would get into guided meditations but I was wrong. These are fantastic recordings. The secret is to control the volume level and keep it low enough so you can hear monroe but not loud enough so that it startles you when he begins speaking.

In one of the prior videos, he whispered something. It was very very low. It felt profound that he whispered. I don't remember what he said, but I remember how it made me feel.  It might have been lift off. I have great respect for the creation of the Gateway Experience. These are advanced for the time period of their creation but that also applies for today. The distance I go seems to be only determined by how far I want to go. It feels moreo and more like a mind expansive experience.

I have repeated so many recordings multiple times the last couple days that I am finding it easier to get "into the mode" so to speak but not from a meditative standpoint. But from a waking standpoint. My brain feels different. Light vibrations or energy movement, at times, come and go in a waking mode just sitting around my house if I am still.  It's like my energy body is learning. Sometimes I just tingle.  :-D Not this night but the last couple nights, I have played  FreeFlow10 recordings continually while I was sleeping.

Vector had long pauses, as do most of them, of time spent just listening to the waves of the focus.  I don't know if the waves contain the same "beats" for all recordings but I doubt it.  The experience of each is unique. This particular one allowed me, or I allowed myself, to feel like I was immersed in a warm quiet place of just drifting from place to place around my body. I find myself really enjoying this place or space in my head.

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The next recording is the five questions of life..Who am I? Where and who was I before I entered this physical existence? What is my purpose for this existence in this physical matter reality? What action can I take to serve this purpose best? What is the most important message I can receive and understand at this point in my existence?

I'm going to wait until tomorrow to do this one.  I'm just going to lay down and meditate with no recording in a few moments.  I want to be a tree again. 

Jenn

Okay, I did the five questions.  I don't know what to say about this one.  I listened to it.  I might do it one more time, but I will probably just move on..  It was not earth shattering.  I was open minded.  But no answer was forthcoming.  Not sure what I expected.  

If in the future if I receive an answer, I will certainly post it.   :lol:

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The next tape is called "Energy foods".  That is interesting because in my book "Awakening the Buddha Within", on page 348 there is a chewing meditation involving three raisins. I'm going to take a pic of this and put it here. This is actually pretty good.  Stand by...

Okay, this may be nothing like the Energy Foods meditation.  I don't know because I haven't done it yet, but the name reminded me of this raisin meditation. 

This is the raisin meditation and the book it came from.  Very very good book in my opinion.  Nice worn yellowed and well loved pages. I have had this book a long long time.

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And heading back to monroe.. I'm going to eat a bite of breakfast and then see what Energy Foods is about.  I think I'll have garden tomatoes for breakfast..  I'm growing four varieties that are delicious.

Jenn

ps...  Now this is what I consider energy food.  Yummy breakfast. I love sitting in my garden with some green salt and eating.  Beef steak, pears, cherries and yellow striped zebra tomatoes.  YUM!!  I got a little sidetracked.  Back to monroe..
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Fixing to do the next tape.. The one about energy food after I complete the below.

You know, I have a ritual I go through before I meditate.

1 - Use the restroom.
2 - Brush my teeth.
3 - Wash my face with cold water and soap.
4 - Use nosespray.
5 - Puff my inhaler once just in case.
6 - Fluff the bed and pillows.
7 - Spray airfreshner over the bed.
8 - Adjust the air fans to blow over the bed and me.
9 - Put my mask on.

Then I'm ready.  If I forget one of these, I have to get up, and do whatever I forgot and sit for 10-30 min trying to get my mojo back.   8-)

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I have an extra room downstairs. I'm seriously thinking about making it zen for meditation.. Shades of the pastels of the ocean.  Or at least half of it. Its about a 18-20' square.  Half is plenty big enough.  It used to be my bedroom, but I moved my bed into my living room a couple years back and made it a craft room.

Jenn

p.s.  Please Scotty, let this be a good one!!

Quote from: Blossom on August 07, 2023, 11:53:12

ps...  Now this is what I consider energy food.  Yummy breakfast. I love sitting in my garden with some green salt and eating.  Beef steak, pears, cherries and yellow striped zebra tomatoes.  YUM!! 
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Yummy! I have adopted the habit of labeling food now as low vibration and high vibration. That helps me eat as healthy as possible, because healthy brain translates NP messages more effectively. At least this is my observation with my own health state. Healthy brain comes from overall healthy body, so healthy lifestyle is extremely important for me to feel and stay as connected as possible and have vivid experiences and APs. But I do have one weekend per month to ground myself with low vibration food as a reward, so no deprivation from human pleasures, but only during the designated time. When I see commercials on TV about pizzas, burgers and pasta, I say to myself, well this is a low vibration food, but it's still mine as a reward, just not at this time. Be patient and the reward would taste a thousand times better when consumed at the right time because there will be no guilt, only pure pleasure.

Quote from: LightBeam on August 07, 2023, 17:03:42
Yummy! I have adopted the habit of labeling food now as low vibration and high vibration. That helps me eat as healthy as possible, because healthy brain translates NP messages more effectively. At least this is my observation with my own health state. Healthy brain comes from overall healthy body, so healthy lifestyle is extremely important for me to feel and stay as connected as possible and have vivid experiences and APs. But I do have one weekend per month to ground myself with low vibration food as a reward, so no deprivation from human pleasures, but only during the designated time. When I see commercials on TV about pizzas, burgers and pasta, I say to myself, well this is a low vibration food, but it's still mine as a reward, just not at this time. Be patient and the reward would taste a thousand times better when consumed at the right time because there will be no guilt, only pure pleasure.

You are so RIGHT!!  And how you label food items I believe is right on.  I am 99 percent vegan/whole food, which is a little different than just vegan.  Sklittez are vegan but are not healthy.  So I veer toward whole foods. Pizza, is a weakness.  I make my own crust with whole wheat flour.  Single serving size.  I make around 21 at a time and put them in freezer bags with wax paper between. I get out one at a time.  And then pile on the tomatoe sauce. I put spinach leaves next, and then pile on kale, black olives, mushrooms, hot peppers and more spinach on top.  Then more tomatoe sauce. PLUS anything else that strikes me at the moment.  Cheese is a weakness so I try to stick to vegan cheese or no cheese because even vegan cheese is processed. And processed and animal products, I try to avoid.  I consume no caffeine, no candy, no sugar, no salt, no sodas and no oil of any kind.  I drink herbal tea and water.  I love orange tea and blueberry. I drink a little caffeine free coffee in the morning and maybe one in the afternoon too.  That is my indulgence.

I feel so much better eating this way. I'm not bogged down with no energy.  I zip around!  Yea, I miss burgers but I have to stay away.  If I eat one, I'll be gone and back to animal products.  My body tells me it feels good eating this way.

I would love to do a month or two and only eat live food to further cleanse my system and for healing purposes.  I might do that real soon -- while I have my garden up and producing.  I also believe many of the diseases of the times can be cured/fixed with food. Not all, but many. 

Quote from: LightBeamBe patient and the reward would taste a thousand times better when consumed at the right time because there will be no guilt, only pure pleasure.

Yes.  Motto for life.

Jenn :-)

Well, I did the energy food recording twice and slept through it.  Both times after Monroe goes through the beginning and tells us "what he tells us" advises he will be back in focus 10 -- and then a little later he comes back -- sometime during that time frame I was gone..  Twice I never got to hear him come back.  

Going try again..  :-D

Hopefully three times is a charm.

Jenn

Quote from: Blossom on August 07, 2023, 19:31:30
I try to stick to vegan cheese

Oh, my favorite vegan cheese is from "Follow your heart" Smoked Gouda. Tastes better than the real thing in my opinion. You just have to be careful with the quantity of course because it has lots of coconut oil = saturated fat. But just a slice or two would make the whole difference in the world.

Quote from: LightBeam on August 07, 2023, 19:47:29
Oh, my favorite vegan cheese is from "Follow your heart" Smoked Gouda. Tastes better than the real thing in my opinion. You just have to be careful with the quantity of course because it has lots of coconut oil = saturated fat. But just a slice or two would make the whole difference in the world.

I'll try it.  I usually get Chao from walmart.  I just looked up the "Follow your heart" Smoked Gouda and they say it's also at walmart here.  But I have never seen it. I may get some tomorrow and check it out. I'll let you know.
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This is also one of my favorite meals.  This is the best meal ever... Seriously good.

1/4" thick sweet potatoes broiled on both sides in the oven and then you put pico de gallo on top... Sweet and hot.. The sweet potatoes cook fast in the oven. Once the first side browns and you flip it over, the second side cooks in less than five minutes. You have to keep a close eye on it. If you do it just right you can pick it up like a chip.. I LOVE this meal.

The side of mushrooms was cooked in a tiny skillet with a few tbs of water and some nutritional yeast. Great flavor. Cook about three min.. No oil and no salt. It is so incredible.

I take pictures of my food.  I have no idea why.. I originally found this recipe on the internet but modified it to my taste. But I love sweet potatoes and this is very filling. I eat it all the time.  :-D

(http://i.ibb.co/M74YBD5/sweet-potatoes.jpg)

Jenn

p.s.  If you are not familiar with pico, it's tomatoes, onions, cilantro, and hot peppers cut up with a splash of lemon or lime juice.  My son puts avocado in his but I have to watch the fat content so I only eat about one avocado a week.  

In lieu of salt -- https://www.trygreensalt.com/products/green-salt-2?variant=40928195510466&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwz8emBhDrARIsANNJjS5MjVHdLk6lI5mNgNBIxbwB9S-LtHsKzLt25aonI0v27OKC4Q7OQ4gaAuXYEALw_wcB (https://www.trygreensalt.com/products/green-salt-2?variant=40928195510466&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwz8emBhDrARIsANNJjS5MjVHdLk6lI5mNgNBIxbwB9S-LtHsKzLt25aonI0v27OKC4Q7OQ4gaAuXYEALw_wcB)

It has sodium but maybe because it comes from a plant, it doesn't effect your blood pressure ..  I love it! I believe the actual plant is called Salicornia or something like that.

And thank you so much.  I LOVE to try new things and experiment with food.

Ok, I am going to move on.  I have now tried to do the Energy Food 4 times and had four naps today.  I'll come back to this one.  The next recording and the last one on wave 3 is called First Stage Separation.

Going to do it now. I'm wide awake after four short naps today..

Jenn :roll:

Crapola...

So I was laying there meditating.  I had jumped ahead to listen to FreeFlow12 in wave4. I know I'm not supposed to but I am not having much "luck" on energy food and first stage separation in wave 3, which are the last two recordings of wave 3.  Keep falling asleep.  So I improvised.  I figured freeflow12 would not be any issue since I'm consistently in focus10 and 12.  Or at least I think so.  I know for sure 10.  But I believe 12 as well. Yeah, I absolutely believe focus12 as well.

Anyway, I'm laying there really deep into it.  Enjoying it.  Suddenly, there is this god awful noise.  A very loud banging.  I jumped sky high.  I thought it was someone banging on my door. I was so groggy when I jumped up.  I ripped my earbuds out, sat them down somewhere, and peeked outside.  I opened the door and noone was there. Dog wasn't barking. He had been asleep ...

I looked at my phone.  I had been about 15 min into the meditation.

Well, I'm guessing the sound was in my head.  I've never head that sound before.  Loud, and I mean loud banging.

After I figured out the sound was in my head -- I could not find my earbuds. Where did I put them?  omg... I looked 10 minutes.  When I found them, I had sat them on top of a really high chest thats like 6' tall..  I don't remember putting them there but thats where they were at.

I am a little confused. :|  hmm. But I think I'll be doing that again.  :-D Very interesting...

Jenn

p.s.  I just remembered something that I was going to say here but had forgotten until this reminded me.  When my ex was here last weekend, I was meditating and he was sleeping.  We both heard a loud noise and both jumped up.  What we heard was a picture flying off the wall.  One of my neices paintings was broken to smithereens. It was in the middle of the room. I don't know if that is related to the meditation or just an odd coincidence. He was trying to be all analytical about it -- checking out the back of the painting, etc..  I said "well did the wind blow it over here to this location?"...

Well, I'm going to have to eat something.  It's 11 ish...

Then I'm going to mop vaccuum and do a little laundry...

Then I'm going to repeat that meditation.

Jenn

Back in the day when FK was active, I was not into phasing.  I was doing my own thing. I didn't quite get it at that time. Didn't understand it and made no effort to understand.

I've downloaded his archive and am going to read it. I think this is a good time to read it.  I remember him. I think I will understand now.  He was a nice man. He always had time.

Jenn

Is someone banging on your door? Hello! Anybody in there?!

The subconscious and/or higher conscious...or maybe just the Multiverse itself, has a weird, ironic sense of humor...that's what I get from the banging...Is someone banging on the door?
Is it you banging on your own door and the Multiverse banging along with you, lol?! Talk about a noisy etheric exit sensation...did I mention the audible types of exit sensations, lol...

Nice tacos, btw, need some kind of meat, lol...

This is good...just keep on with getting on...

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on August 09, 2023, 00:01:52
Is someone banging on your door? Hello! Anybody in there?!

The subconscious and/or higher conscious...or maybe just the Multiverse itself, has a weird, ironic sense of humor...that's what I get from the banging...Is someone banging on the door?
Is it you banging on your own door and the Multiverse banging along with you, lol?! Talk about a noisy etheric exit sensation...did I mention the audible types of exit sensations, lol...

Nice tacos, btw, need some kind of meat, lol...

I slept all night with FF12 playing softly in my ear.  Talk about a peaceful sleep.  I feel excellent this morning!!!  Its raining.  The day feels as fresh as I feel. I feel alert.  Very very alert.  I went outside and just stood in the rain this morning just soaking it in..

And whats this about meat? I can't ruin the taste of my food!!   :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually, seriously, when you don't eat meat, it smells putrid when it cooks.  Its a nausating smell. Burned flesh.  HOWEVER there is an exception and that exception is BACON!!  That always smells good.  I think there should be a bacon scented air freshner.  lol...

Quote from: EscapeVelocityThis is good...just keep on with getting on...

YES!!!

Jenn

Since I am wide awake and very alert, I'm going to repeat FF12 like it's supposed to be done..  Than I will start wave4 today.

Something weird is going on.

Where I am at it is 2:39am.  I went to bed with my earbuds playing the wave1, tape 5 playing.  It is the sleep tape.

Suddenly, a few minutes ago, there was a loud banging on my front door.  Seriously.  Just like what had happened during that previous session that startled me so.  ONLY this time, there was actually someone at my freaking door.  It was my neighbor telling me my car tail lights were on in the veh.

What in the universe is going on?

This man has probably knocked on my door three times in the last 7 years.  Very seldom.  Very very seldom.  And he knocked at 2:30 in the am????  In the am!!!  He knocked so loud, he woke me out of a dead sleep with Monroe in my ear.  Another thing I just thought about -- Eli, my aussie, did not bark.  Thats odd too. He always alerts me to someone outside.  Even the mailman, whom he knows. But he did not bark, just like day before yesterday when the banging jarred me out of my meditation. But of course that was because there was no one there. I'm saying there is an odd symmetry between the two incidents in more than just the physical knocking.

Jenn

p.s.  QUESTION
Was the astral banging day before yesterday a precognition of what just happened AND is this related to the Monroe tapes?  I've fixing to search online about the Gateway and see if anyone has reported this as a possible "happening" while they were doing the recordings. If it's Monroe tapes related, I can't be the only one.

--I'm fixing to look back and see the exact time I made that other post.  I want to know.  Trying to figure this out.  I have never precog-ed anything.  It could be just a weird, weird, very weird coincidence. I will say this.  My grandfather was a precogger..(is that a word?)  He could always tell when someone in the family was going to die. I wrote about this in some other post too.  He would tell my grandmother to get his suit ready for the funeral. He was always right about this. It was so common that it was a normal thing in our family for him to precog. It had nothing to do with Monroe. Pa was just Pa and that was part of him.  He did not know "who" would die.  He was knew it was going to happen.

First weird knock with noone there: reply #80 on August 08, 2023, 10:34:56. 
Second knock with someone there:  reply #86 on August 10, 2023, 02:43:53

Precog or coincidence, I'll be remembering this as I progress along my Gateway recordings.  That's for sure.

It's killing me and testing my will power to NOT read Monroes trilogy that I ordered from ebay until I finished the Gateway Experience.  I made a vow not to read them so my experience won't be tainted.   Two will be here in a couple days plus one a student of his wrote.  I'm not going to read that one either until I finish the recordings.  And a new copy of Bulhman's first and best book also - Adventures beyond the body.  I love that book.. I loaned my copy out a few years ago and can't remember who I loaned it to.. It needed replacing.

I have nearly finished wave 4. It's 4am.  I'll write about this tomorrow.  I need to sleep. I'm just buzzing in my limbs.

I'm not going to be able to sleep.  FF12 is on my mind, so I'm going to write it down.  I'll tell you NVC (non verbal communication) tomorrow or later today, however you want to look at it.

First of all, on wave4, FreeFlow12 -- I did this 4-5 times before I stayed awake.  I stayed awake because I propped myself up in bed on multiple pillows. Not quite in a sitting position but close.

After doing my preparatory work, I settled in.  I went in pretty fast.  I think my brain is getting trained how to find that spot.  When I was there, I saw images ..  Fleeting images of nonsense but I just kept watching.  Occasionally I would hear the PING sound that Monroe added as a beacon. Not sure why, but it brought me back from drifting too far each time.  I think its meaning was to not lose track and as a focus mechanism.  Anyway I just kept watching.. One image seemed expecially "bright".  As I watched the image, it became clearer and clearer and I could see it was a girl sitting on a bed.  As it became more prounouned, I could see it was me.  Not my physical body laying on the bed, but it was still me. I was watching myself. Or another version of myself. As I watched her/me, she got up and turned and looked back at me directly in my eyes.  Straight at me. Her face got larger and larger and then PING again from Monroe. I had to refocus again. I tried to find her again. She drifted in and out but was never as bright as at first when I first saw her.  When I finally saw her again, I was overcome with this intense feeling of sadness and remorse for her, for me, for us.  It was overwhelming.  My heart just ached as I watched her. I felt physical tears that I had no control over.  I watched her and studied her watching me through the entire tape.

When it ended, I had a good cry. What the hell?  What does this mean? I was in my spirit body watching myself watching me while I lay in bed.

This made me feel such overwhelming emotion.  I feel drained right now.  I feel like something important just happened and I missed it. It's like it's right here but I can't quite put my finger on it.

After this I listened to the NVC tape.  The first one.  I did not get much out of this one.  Monroe said a series of words and had you communicate that word in pictures .. First they were nouns -- your hand etc.  Then they were objects like a chair.  Then they were abstract like some type of feeling. Then it was over.

I should have waited to do this one.  I was still too emotional feeling from the prior recording.  Even now, I still feel emotional when I think about it.  It was very intense.

Ok, I'm going to crash.  I need to sleep.

Happy trails all,
Jenn

p.s.  I have not proof read this.  Hopefully it is not too jumbled up in my thoughts.

Quote from: Blossom on August 11, 2023, 06:04:21
As I watched the image, it became clearer and clearer and I could see it was a girl sitting on a bed.  As it became more prounouned, I could see it was me.  Not my physical body laying on the bed, but it was still me. I was watching myself. Or another version of myself. As I watched her/me, she got up and turned and looked back at me directly in my eyes.  Straight at me. Her face got larger and larger and then PING again from Monroe. I had to refocus again. I tried to find her again. She drifted in and out but was never as bright as at first when I first saw her.  When I finally saw her again, I was overcome with this intense feeling of sadness and remorse for her, for me, for us.  It was overwhelming.  My heart just ached as I watched her. I felt physical tears that I had no control over.  I watched her and studied her watching me through the entire tape.

When it ended, I had a good cry. What the hell?  What does this mean? I was in my spirit body watching myself watching me while I lay in bed.

This made me feel such overwhelming emotion.  I feel drained right now.  I feel like something important just happened and I missed it. It's like it's right here but I can't quite put my finger on it.

This is happens exactly the same  to people who go into deep hypnosis to deal with something subconscious either from this life or from another life. They cry most of the time because they finally get to process the emotions that have been suppressed.  Typically within 3 days, they feel better because this was brough up to the surface and they analyzed it/understood where some troubles in their current reality were coming from. Then that blocked energy dissolves because it gets processed by the consciousness.

Great experience, Jenn!

Yes, the beacon ping is conveniently placed within the session to keep us from drifting off too far and to re-center ourselves. Later on, you can learn to ignore it if you wish and stay with an experience, as you prefer.

Propping myself up with pillows in bed has often worked quite well for me. Don't be afraid to experiment with this, especially if, early in a session it just doesn't feel right.

As the images slowly became more distinct, you just "casually observed them", which is one way a Phasing can begin. Often the images can be disorganized and nonsensical at first; then they stabilize and come more into focus. Then, as you described, your attention is drawn to one image in particular and, in this case, it seems you received some kind of clairvoyant experience. There can also be clairaudient (hearing) or even clairomniscient (that sense of intuitive knowing). And often, you may not get a complete and satisfactory answer as to what actually transpired, instead you have to rely on your intuitive/subconscious skills. And like LightBeam said, you may not get a more top-level explanation, but by the emotional energy that this generated, you can be sure that a very significant amount of Non-Physical consciousness accepting, processing and assimilating has begun...and might take a few days to complete. It is your choice to let that process continue on its' own or you could lay down for a brief ten minute meditation/reverie and ask a couple simple questions-this was part of doing the 5 Questions Exercise; now is when you might apply that technique. In this case, you might just let it go for now...but it is always your choice.

She could have been a past self, a parallel life self, an aspect of your current self-possibly childhood. As floriferous pointed out, most of us want and expect visuals to best explain an experience. Now you are realizing that even the visual may not provide enough context every time, and that your deeper insight sounds like it is buried within the strong emotions that are being experienced. Feeling drained, as you say, is a good sign that a fair amount of personal energy was involved, even in such a seemingly straight-forward experience.

Nice one!

To LightBeam and EscapeVelocity:

Quote from: LightBeam on August 11, 2023, 08:14:15
This is happens exactly the same  to people who go into deep hypnosis to deal with something subconscious either from this life or from another life. They cry most of the time because they finally get to process the emotions that have been suppressed.  Typically within 3 days, they feel better because this was brough up to the surface and they analyzed it/understood where some troubles in their current reality were coming from. Then that blocked energy dissolves because it gets processed by the consciousness.

LightBeam, are you saying that 'troubles I had in a past life' can influence what happens in my NOW reality, even though I don't know what the troubles are? If that's what you are saying, thats heavy duty stuff. If thats the case, I hope that I can find her again and 'talk to her' before the end if these tapes.  Maybe we can end a troubling cycle so next time, it will be an easier life for me/her/us. Isn't that our goal, to live the best we can and learn while we are here?

Quote from: EscapeVelocity
Great experience, Jenn!

Yes, the beacon ping is conveniently placed within the session to keep us from drifting off too far and to re-center ourselves. Later on, you can learn to ignore it if you wish and stay with an experience, as you prefer.

Propping myself up with pillows in bed has often worked quite well for me. Don't be afraid to experiment with this, especially if, early in a session it just doesn't feel right.

As the images slowly became more distinct, you just "casually observed them", which is one way a Phasing can begin. Often the images can be disorganized and nonsensical at first; then they stabilize and come more into focus. Then, as you described, your attention is drawn to one image in particular and, in this case, it seems you received some kind of clairvoyant experience. There can also be clairaudient (hearing) or even clairomniscient (that sense of intuitive knowing). And often, you may not get a complete and satisfactory answer as to what actually transpired, instead you have to rely on your intuitive/subconscious skills. And like LightBeam said, you may not get a more top-level explanation, but by the emotional energy that this generated, you can be sure that a very significant amount of Non-Physical consciousness accepting, processing and assimilating has begun...and might take a few days to complete. It is your choice to let that process continue on its' own or you could lay down for a brief ten minute meditation/reverie and ask a couple simple questions-this was part of doing the 5 Questions Exercise; now is when you might apply that technique. In this case, you might just let it go for now...but it is always your choice.

She could have been a past self, a parallel life self, an aspect of your current self-possibly childhood. As floriferous pointed out, most of us want and expect visuals to best explain an experience. Now you are realizing that even the visual may not provide enough context every time, and that your deeper insight sounds like it is buried within the strong emotions that are being experienced. Feeling drained, as you say, is a good sign that a fair amount of personal energy was involved, even in such a seemingly straight-forward experience.

Nice one!

I DO remember Floriferous talking about visuals. I need more than just visuals. Like I was saying above to LightBeam, I need to find her again and hopefully talk to her on some level.. I just want to reassure her. That sounds dumb I know but I just want to tell her it's ok.

What both of yall said, makes complete sense. I have sat around all day long reflecting on this.  After reading what yall both said, I do believe it was more of a clairomniscient (I had to look that word up.. :-)
experience.  She did not look like me but at the same time, her physical aspect is unclear to me.  She was just different than me.  But I KNEW it was me. I could feel it if that makes any sense. It doesn't exactly make sense to me.  At the time, it was unquestionable.

The five questions sounds like a great idea.. No time like the present. I'm a slight skeptic but I'll give it a shot with an open mind.  My ex will be here this weekend.  After he goes to sleep, I'll do the five questions.  That's a very good idea.

Jenn

p.s.  Juan is nearly asleep. He feels bad tonight. Dogs are nearly asleep.. I'm the only one stirring.  I feel like I am on a mission with Monroe.  :lol:  I'm going to sit and do a little reading on past lives and parallel realities to get into the right mindset. My new books will be here tomorrow I think.. ebay.  I have received two of them so far.  Three to go.  Got these used and they look nearly brand new. Hope I'm that lucky with the others.  These are burning a hole on my book shelf. 

I have to figure out what my questions will be.

(http://i.ibb.co/TTtmKhV/small-books.jpg)

EscapeVelocity:

You are so precise in your wording that I just noticed something I wanted to ask you about.

You said:

Quote from: EscapeVelocityit seems you received some kind of clairvoyant experience.

You said received vs had... Had is what most people would say.  But you are not most people.

Could you please explain the word received in the context that you meant.  Received for me is "came from something else or someone else".

So my question to you is, from where?  Is that the universe bestoying me something ??  And for what purpose? 

Could my experience be a healing gift?  That also cooresponds with what LightBeam was telling me. I hope I have some blockages that are dissolved or are going to be dissolving real soon..

Jenn

I just found a post from 2012..

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_writers_corner/song_i_heard_while_traveling_to_the_higher_planes-t36539.0.html;msg301238#msg301238 (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_writers_corner/song_i_heard_while_traveling_to_the_higher_planes-t36539.0.html;msg301238#msg301238)

I clicked the link and there is an amazing song.  I guess he wrote it.  I bought it just to listen to all the time.  Amazing lesson in it.

Just wanted to share this.
Jenn

Im sitting here in my computer chair, still in my nightgown,....vibrating as I type this.  That sounds crazy but I feel connected this morning.  Like I have new eyes.  It's ok to laugh but I really am sitting here vibrating.  My legs, my upper torso, the top of my head.  It feels amazing.

I guess it boils down to "colors are a little brighter."

Jenn

I wrote clairomniscience, but I meant to write clairsentience...same thing, just not so confusing a word...lol

"Received" versus "had"...the more various NP experiences you have, you realize your vocabulary needs to expand and include all the varieties and reasons of possible experience. So, I became aware over time that my experiences may have been purely spontaneous or possibly generated from somewhere within myself (Higher Self/inner self/subconscious...) or from somewhere outside myself. That can mean the experience came from a Guide, Teacher, Higher Being or the Multiverse...I am left guessing. But, with enough experiences (and that doesn't necessarily mean many) this likelihood becomes apparent. These experiences, even the way your Gateway Course is currently playing out, is not by accident...I have no doubt, higher energies are noticing and participating in this process. And I will say again that you are doing great! Frustration and all, included at no charge!...lol!

So, yes, I try to be precise in my wording...and thank you for noticing that!

And you are "buzzing" with energy! Arm, leg, torso tingles and buzzing that just won't quit. That is your frequency level moving up several notches. When you spend a week at TMI, most everyone leaves on Friday feeling this same energy and feeling a bit "stoned"...it's referred to as the TMI High...they actually prefer that if you live close enough to drive, that you don't; that you have somebody available to drive you home. And I must admit, after my first two courses, i had to pull over a couple times during the two-and-a-half-hour drive home in order to clear my head and ground myself. The fact that you are getting this frequency increase with the at-home course just confirms how well you are doing with it.

Since the energy has become so noticeable, I would suggest some kind of "grounding" procedure. Go to your garden and stick your hands in the dirt for awhile, work with the earth, literally. Sit for ten minutes, with your back against a tree...reconnect with the Earth. Everything in moderation is a good rule here.

Don't worry about the Monroe or Rosalind McKnight books burning a hole in your bookshelf; they are good, but just not necessary right now.

Otherwise keep on doing just as you are; you are doing great! Thank you so much for sharing your journey!

My goodness, I can't quit grinning this morning. I feel like I'm high on life. I am literally abuzz with life.  There is so much to tell that I'm not sure how to begin. I'll try one thing at a time.  That's all I can do.  First I'll answer your message.

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on August 13, 2023, 01:01:26
I wrote clairomniscience, but I meant to write clairsentience...same thing, just not so confusing a word...lol

Its all good.  I looked up all the clairs...  :-o I read a lot so a lot of the time when I see words that I don't know how to pronounce or don't know what they mean so I look them  up but make up my own unique pronunciation.  :-D

Quote from: EscapeVelocity
"Received" versus "had"...the more various NP experiences you have, you realize your vocabulary needs to expand and include all the varieties and reasons of possible experience. So, I became aware over time that my experiences may have been purely spontaneous or possibly generated from somewhere within myself (Higher Self/inner self/subconscious...) or from somewhere outside myself. That can mean the experience came from a Guide, Teacher, Higher Being or the Multiverse...I am left guessing. But, with enough experiences (and that doesn't necessarily mean many) this likelihood becomes apparent. These experiences, even the way your Gateway Course is currently playing out, is not by accident...I have no doubt, higher energies are noticing and participating in this process. And I will say again that you are doing great! Frustration and all, included at no charge!...lol!

What a night!!!  omg..  I guess I will call it an immersive experience during the last 10 hrs or so. So many things. 
I'll take this one step at a time.  First I want to say that as far as actual physical progress on the tapes, as in doing new ones, I have not done that.  I have stayed in wave3 and wave4, but have made significant progress on this journey. MORE, much more than if I had of rushed forward in the tapes. It gives me comfort that higher energies are at play. And after last night, I believe it more than ever. More on that later.

So one thing at a time.

Received vs had.. I agree with you and I think it's both.  Something is going on with me from outside and inside.  I did the five questions again as you suggested, twice actually, and got no response like what I was hoping or expecting would happen.  This goes back to Wave 3, tape 4. So I was a little bummed out about that.  But never fear.. I think answers come in many varieties.  I'm not saying I eventually got an answer but since waking this morning, my attitude has changed about receiving an answer. Maybe I don't even need an answer. Maybe on some level I already know my answers and I'm leaning this direction. I just have to learn how to process what I already know. Today I feel cosmically that I just have to be "in the right space" organically to process what I already know.  What we all know. I don't mean my physicality. An organic space is more than your physicality.   

Anyone who does not have the monroe tapes, these are the five questions I am referring to.
1 - Who am I?
2 - Who and where was I before I entered this physical existence?
3 - What is my purpose for this existence in this physical matter reality?
4 - What action can I now take to serve this purpose best?
5 - What is the most important message I can receive and understand at this point in my existence?

These five questions are our very essence.

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I have been studying that little song that I posted that link to (it resonates with me) and that got me to thinking about vibrational states. Love, so related to my closed heart chakra. So I started researching vibrational states of different living things, plants and humans.  I came across an article that I saved to pdf to link here.  I do a lot of the things suggested now, but I'm fixing to change a few things too.  I want a super clean living body. I am going to make a list of living foods I feel I could live on for a few weeks.

I read that love has the highest vibrational rate of any feeling.  And the rose is the flower with the highest vibrational rate. Do you see the symmetery between those two things? Its beautiful.

I found this article about human vibrational states.  And I found this prior to reading your answer.
http://drive.google.com/file/d/1nM2L5k-VwXVfTDpEze-Mp60BsNsvEePR/view (http://drive.google.com/file/d/1nM2L5k-VwXVfTDpEze-Mp60BsNsvEePR/view)

Quote from: EscapeVelocitySo, yes, I try to be precise in my wording...and thank you for noticing that!

Your very welcome..

Quote from: EscapeVelocity
And you are "buzzing" with energy! Arm, leg, torso tingles and buzzing that just won't quit. That is your frequency level moving up several notches.

Oh yes....!! I hope it stays and doesn't wear off.

Quote from: EscapeVelocity
When you spend a week at TMI, most everyone leaves on Friday feeling this same energy and feeling a bit "stoned"...it's referred to as the TMI High...they actually prefer that if you live close enough to drive, that you don't; that you have somebody available to drive you home. And I must admit, after my first two courses, i had to pull over a couple times during the two-and-a-half-hour drive home in order to clear my head and ground myself. The fact that you are getting this frequency increase with the at-home course just confirms how well you are doing with it.

Since the energy has become so noticeable, I would suggest some kind of "grounding" procedure. Go to your garden and stick your hands in the dirt for awhile, work with the earth, literally. Sit for ten minutes, with your back against a tree...reconnect with the Earth. Everything in moderation is a good rule here.

I am buzzing this morning much more than yesterday.  I actually feel taller, like my head is about 3 feet higher than my body. Like I'm glancing down.  I know I'm not actually taller. Very hard to explain how this feels. An illusion of some sort? I also took your advice and went outside and sat in the wet grass for a bit by my lilac bush just absorbing all the energy I feel around me. And I feel a lot. I never thought this possible while being awake. It's a very definate benefit of The Gateway Experience.  :-D

Now, let me tell you what I've been up to.

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Yesterday, after doing the Five Questions and feeling a little bummed, I went about my day thinking about "love" and my heart chakra.

So last night around 9, it was quiet in the house so I put on the Focus 12 Free Flow from Wave4.  On repeat.
Did my little pre-meditation-routine.  And lay down.

OMG..  I stayed awake through four repeats, which is a little over two hours..  Same one playing - FF12.

When I first lay down, on my inhales, I mentally said "love" and tried to draw universal love through my nostrils.  Believe it or not, this helped me relax. I reached Focus10 easily but struggled going further to 12 so I stopped trying to go further. I accepted it for what it was.  I also made a concentrated effort to further relax my body at that point and it did.  I literally felt myself ease further in the bed.  I did not even know or realize my muscles were tense.  I know you are probably thinking this doesn't make sense.  I don't know how to explain it because I shouldn't have been aware of my body but I was but at the same time I was in F10.  Or maybe I wasn't but I had the mind split before that RB talks about.  This wasn't quite like that.

I also asked the "universe" if I had any helpers or guides out there watching me to help me attain my goals and I thanked them in advance. I did this mentally, and not out loud. This was in F10. Monroe mentioned doing this in the manual for one of the waves recordings.  I don't remember which one.  While in F10, I also did the healing bar thing sweeping up my body using a multitude of colors vs one color at a time.  It was a rainbow of colors.   This was prior to Monroe coming back on once you are in Focus 10. I had a very definate mind awake and body asleep state at that point. I love the way that feels.

After I did that, Monroe came on and counted the change from 10 to 12.  When he said 12, I actually felt the shift in consciousness, which startled me just a little.  And then I was there. The black got just a little bit blacker.  It was like I was floating in bliss. I had to maintain focus and not think about my body to stay in this state. All I knew were the sounds I was hearing for the most part. But at other times, I felt like I was in a perpetual state of light vibration with the strongest being on my upper legs. It seemed that the vibrations would play up my body but were mainly concentrated on my legs.  It was delicious. Waves of tingles. I maintained this state for an extended period of of FOUR recordings. I don't know how to explain this properly. I did not go anywhere.  I did not obe. I just WAS.. I quit hearing Monroe or the tapes.  The only thing I knew was my warm circle of bliss.  It was like a warm soothing coccoon. I drifted back to physical consciousness at some point because I began to hear Monroe again.  I got up and 2.5 hours had passed and I just sat in my chair amazed that I had stayed awake and had this extended experience. It was mind boggling.  It felt like minutes and not hours. This whole experience was one of FEELING and not SEEING. 

This is so difficult to express.  I could not feel or see my legs but I could tell they were vibrating WHILE I was in F12.  I could feel the sensations of the vibrations while at the same time I was in this state of blackness.  I did not even try to see anything or observe anything or actually did not have the power to see. The  sounds were all I could hear and they blocked everything out except the vibrations and I could tell it was legs.. The vibrations and this warmth of swirling black. I didn't want it to end.

I got up for an hour or so in a daze.  I just sat there absorbing all that I felt around me.  Then I put the tape back on and went back to bed.  I did not try to meditate.  I just let myself drift off.  This morning, at this moment that I am typing this, around three hours has passed since I got up.  I still feel the buzz.  Not as strong as when I woke up but here nervertheless. 

I can tell you that it feels like something is happening to me. Maybe it's more like a feeling of anticipation.  Maybe it's both.  I feel different and I'm excited for what is to come. I feel different today because I am different today. I am anticipating the possibilites of change of venue in my consciousness..  lol

One other physical thing I am noticing that is different.  In the cerebellum and occipital areas, across the back of my brain/head, it feel full of energy. I had to look up what those areas are called but they encompass the areas I am referring to.

Jenn

p.s.  If I think of something else, I'll be back...

A NOTE:
I just reread this and it sound so blase for what happened to me..  I cannot stress how significant last night felt.  I did not and cannot explain how it actually felt during these two hours.  I wasn't floating, like in the corridor experience, but I was surrounded by something that make me feel otherworldly?  That's a bad word. This was a non-seeing experience.  It was purely emotional and visceral.. It was an extended calm. I was surrounded by love. That's how it felt. That sounds corny but true.  I went down with love on my mind and love was what I got.

Quote from: EscapeVelocity
These experiences, even the way your Gateway Course is currently playing out, is not by accident...I have no doubt, higher energies are noticing and participating in this process.

I believe you. I actually feel it now. Saying "We are more than our physical body" is only the first step in believing. I asked for someone/something to help me last night and "something" did.  It is OBVIOUS to me.

I am more than my physical body. Yes I am...

I am rested and at peace today in spite of being active all night.

I think I'll do a meditation today without Monroe, my tree meditation, and just see what happens.  I'll see if I'm training my brain to do anything on its own.

Well I can't reach those focus levels without Monroe yet.  My brain is not retrained yet. What takes 10 min or so with Monroe, takes me an hour without Monroe.

I took 24 hrs off from meditation and read and studied methods, exit strategies etc... Trying to figure out WHY I am not obeing...

I feel like "I am doing something unintentional" to block myself.  

So I've been analyzing my expectations, my goals and trying to see exactly what I am doing when I feel the vibrationbal state.  And what I might need to do.  I know obes are NOT the goal of the monroe gateway experience, but.. I'm hoping so. I feel so close..

I'm also comparing what I actually did in the past that made it successful.  The only thing I can come up with is that I was not trying to obe.. So I really was completely relaxed.  I wasn't trying to do anything except relax. The stars just all lined up..

Starting tonight, doing another immersive experience.

My advice is to take at least three days off and consolidate your prior experiences, continue some grounding practices...these things often take time to percolate and process on an inner-level.

During that time and continuing on for a couple weeks, add in some daily/nightly affirmations...keep it simple. No more than three affirmations at a time, simply-worded, no abbreviations.

"I know that the out of body experience is enjoyable and safe."
"I know that I am protected by my Guides and God/Source/Universe constantly is with me and loving and protecting."
"I ask permission of my Higher Self and grant myself permission to move out of body and experience the Non-Physical."

This is a subtle form of asking and granting permission within your inner self. Also a form of Intention programming. There is no point in forcing the issue; it's really about 'allowing'.

Relax, passively observe and let it come to you when it naturally chooses to...like patiently waiting for a new horse to decide for itself to wander up to you.

If you get kinesthetic sensations such as swaying, rolling, floating...let it happen, stay calm and let it increase as much as it chooses and the exit will occur naturally.
If it is a Phasing, the hypnogogic images will gradually slow until you can focus on a single scene- again, passively observe and the scene will begin to strengthen to the point you automatically enter the scene.

You are doing great. Maybe time for a break. :wink:

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on August 14, 2023, 23:28:00
My advice is to take at least three days off and consolidate your prior experiences, continue some grounding practices...these things often take time to percolate and process on an inner-level.

During that time and continuing on for a couple weeks, add in some daily/nightly affirmations...keep it simple. No more than three affirmations at a time, simply-worded, no abbreviations.

"I know that the out of body experience is enjoyable and safe."
"I know that I am protected by my Guides and God/Source/Universe constantly is with me and loving and protecting."
"I ask permission of my Higher Self and grant myself permission to move out of body and experience the Non-Physical."

This is a subtle form of asking and granting permission within your inner self. Also a form of Intention programming. There is no point in forcing the issue; it's really about 'allowing'.

Relax, passively observe and let it come to you when it naturally chooses to...like patiently waiting for a new horse to decide for itself to wander up to you.

If you get kinesthetic sensations such as swaying, rolling, floating...let it happen, stay calm and let it increase as much as it chooses and the exit will occur naturally.
If it is a Phasing, the hypnogogic images will gradually slow until you can focus on a single scene- again, passively observe and the scene will begin to strengthen to the point you automatically enter the scene.

You are doing great. Maybe time for a break. :wink:

Thank you... I have lots to think about as I try to put all this together.  I'm started journaling this experience too.
I appreciate you and LightBeam so much..

Jenn

I'm done breaking.  Today I start again.

I am just sitting here buzzing this morning internally and externally from Monroe.  I've been listening to Monroe all night for several days.  

Wave 4 is finished.  Other than my experiences with Free Flow 12, nothing earth-shattering occurred. And that felt pretty significant to me.

So I am moving on to wave 5... I have done wave 4 more than twice.  I will say this -- when I lay down to listen to a tape, my body is responding quicker.  My sense of relaxation or (how do I explain it?) the ability to "get into mode" is much faster. That's ONE THING.

SECOND THING -- for whatever reason, I am not falling asleep any longer.  I'm hoping that is considered progress.   :roll:   During every single tape, I stay awake, which is good.  Great actually.

On wave 5, The first 2 are about intuition and then there is one on Advance focus 12, and then focus 15 starts.  I'm not sure exactly what that is yet.  I have yet to read the manual.  I'll do that in a minute.  It's always a little exciting to start a new wave.

Heres a little synopsis.
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Also, I am buying some other CDs.  Three sets...  To keep my options open.  These are not for phasing but just for OBE. Will be a nice addition to my shelf...

Steve G Jones -- Explorations beyond the body, Explorations Intensive and Advanced Journeys.   Should be here next week.  I just want to keep my options open in case Monroe doesn't get me "out"... Which is my ultimate goal.  My backup plan...  :-D

Cheers,
Jenn

p.s.  I'll start wave 5 this afternoon.  I need to mow this morning before it gets hot.  My corn is finished producing, so I'm going to clear that ground area back to mushroom compost and cover it till next year.  I have a mini farm in my backyard.

I also did some reading here on AP from a woman named Ginny back in the early 2000's.  All I can say is wow!! Amazing s**t!

I had to come in and cool off from mowing.  So I went ahead and ordered the other set of stuff that I wanted. I order two sets today.
Pretty excited about this.  They are old packaging but brand new in shrink wrap. I paid on eBay around $40 for each one.
Explorations Beyond the Body is 7 CDs and the Explorations Advanced Journeys is 8 CDs. 

And next week, I'm ordering one called Explorations Intensive which is 5 CDs for $30.

The reason I ordered these, and am not worrying about them, is because I read a post by Lionheart (who could that be??) on this forum saying they were really good..   :-D

It's hard to find these.  I don't think they make them any longer.k  They'll be here in 5-10 days. WooHoo! I'm not even sure what's on them all.

7 cds
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8 cds
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5 cds
Creative Visualization, Akashic Records, Reading Auras, Psychic Abilities
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Jenn

p.s.  The break is over.  Back to mowing.  ugh..

Im up at 3:40... Eli had to go outside and take care of his business.

I've been sitting here thinking.  I don't care if I phase or obe..

But speaking of OBE's, I feel like (in my gut) if I just get out of body, however it occurs, I think I would instinctively know how to change my vibration and take off to where ever I wanted.  I've done it before. I just need to do the separation.  I feel this so strongly in my heart of hearts that it's difficul to actually express.  I just know. Or I just feel it.

I was listening to advanced focus 12 when I had to get up.  Fixing to put it back on.  I'm just going to try and lose myself in the tones.

Jenn :wink:

I've listened to Wave 5 (advanced focus 12) all night sitting up in a chair.  I've fixing to listen to it again.  I've had zero sleep.  My feet have been cramping all night and this morning --> due to my mowing in the heat yesterday...


rough rough nite for me.

I'm not to going to post here any longer.  It's pointless.   When I get approved on the new site, I'll continue there. In the meantime, I'll just write anything at home that proves significant and transfer it later. I saw on the new site, they have a journal section.  That great!

Jenn

This is the link to the new site where I am continuing this.  I'm confused as to whether to post here or there.  I don't know if the AP  site will continue or not.  This is all subject to change.

My new link.
https://out-of-body.boards.net/thread/77/gateway-experiences?page=1&scrollTo=113

AND Advanced Journeys has finally shipped.  Will be here from the 23rd through the 25th.

Quote from: Lumaza on July 30, 2023, 12:14:54My "Mindfold" was a good blindfold for my Phase sessions

I know this is a little late, but figured I'd chime in... the Mindfold is probably one of the best meditation tools I own (gift from my loving wife <3).  For those times when you just want to get that light gone!  :)

Thank you Lumaza! I look for masks all the time. I have a real soft purple one that I use now that works pretty darn good.  I'll check out your mindfold however as well.

And it looks like the forum is back.  I'm so confused.  Where do I post?  Here or there?  And it's just beautiful here too.  I love it!! It's a breath of fresh air.

I'll come back here but I'll keep an eye on the other.  There is just so much great info here and it's at the tip of my fingers.

From Aug 20th until Aug 28th, I posted here.  https://out-of-body.boards.net/thread/77/gateway-experiences-dr-steve-jones (https://out-of-body.boards.net/thread/77/gateway-experiences-dr-steve-jones)

I'm back here now since AP is awesomely back up!!!  And beautiful!! And updated and amazing!!!

Quote from: Blossom on August 28, 2023, 15:12:14From Aug 20th until Aug 28th, I posted here.  https://out-of-body.boards.net/thread/77/gateway-experiences-dr-steve-jones (https://out-of-body.boards.net/thread/77/gateway-experiences-dr-steve-jones)

I'm back here now since AP is awesomely back up!!!  And beautiful!! And updated and amazing!!!

Yes!  The conversion went incredibly well and the forums are now up and running better than they ever have.

They'll be online and continually kept updated from now on. 👍

Quote from: Xanth on August 28, 2023, 15:40:57Yes!  The conversion went incredibly well and the forums are now up and running better than they ever have.

They'll be online and continually kept updated from now on. 👍

I am sooooooooooo glad!!!! You did a beautiful job!

Okay, I have been doing Monroe and Dr. Steve Jones.  I have posted some of this on another web page, but I am going to use AP to continue this and post stuff here since AP is back up for good.

At present I am doing a series of tapes by Dr. Jones called Eplorations Beyond the Body. I also have Advanced Journeys by the same Dr. and one called Explorations Intensive should be here in a couple of days. I felt like I wasn't making much progress with Monroe so I am taking a short break to break to mix it up.  I'm on medication right now that makes 20-30-minute meditations with Monroe difficult.  It's just not enough time for me while on steroids.   Dr. Jones covers a lot of different material, auditory learning, which I feel will help me.

I tried to change the name of this post to Gateway Experience and Dr. Steve G Jones but it did not save. I will just continue here anyway.

My goal, regardless of how I get there, is the OBE or Phase, whether by Monroe or Dr. Jones. 

As far as Dr. Jones, I really like him and his stuff. I like Monroe too. So I'm doing both programs. I've also thrown a little Jurgen in and have listened to some of his stuff too.  I really like him as well.  He doesn't talk during his sessions, which I like.

I am trying hard to train my brain to learn how to easily OBE.  I am determined. I have done it before but it's been a long time.

It's nearly 1-am now.  I'm fixing to do my thing.  The pic is my schedule for Dr. Jones right now.  It's for three weeks.  The five-minute exercises are the prelude to any OBE attempt.  They are to raise energy.

I'll be doing this shortly and tomorrow I'll write about it.  I'll either be listening to Monroe to sleep by or Jurgen.

Cheers, Jenn
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So I'm sitting at my computer listening to Dr Steve talk about methods of exiting at 3:39 am...

One sounds a lot like what could be considered phasing.

He calls it the "Quantum Teleportation Technique".  He said since the 90s, scientists have been experimenting with teleporting entangled electrons.  Which is two electrons that have similar properties.  But they do the opposite thing.  If one is spinning upwards and to the right, somewhere there is an electron that is spinning downwards and to the left.  And distance is not a factor. If you think it, you make it happen.  You can instantly "teleport". Or phase?

I haven't read anything on this yet, meaning I haven't asked AI or Dr Google.  But I will be.  But tomorrow. I'm fixing to go to bed.  I should have started meditating hours ago but I get caught up reading and listening. He is very interesting to a general layman like me.

Cheers, Jenn

p.s.  Just burning the midnight oil and thinking...

One last thing.  I'm not saying there are electrons in our astral body.  I'm not saying that. I do not believe our astral body has any mass at all in Earth's terms, except maybe we are heavier than air. All I'm saying is that it is a concept that we all can relate to, therefore, it's easier for our brain to accept it so we can do it.  The scientists are using matter.  Phasing or teleportation in the sense that I'm talking about does not use matter, but the concept is similar to our brains. Maybe? Dr. Steve never said phasing.  But I think that the Quantum Teleportation Technique is phasing.  --> "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" ~~ Shakespeare

It's now morning.  Here is a simple explanation of entanglement -->  Entanglement (https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu/topics/quantum-science-explained/entanglement#:~:text=When%20two%20particles%2C%20such%20as,scientists%20call%20an%20emergent%20property.)

Last night: First I did not OBE or phase (get that out of the way). I used everything according to my chart in the previous post, which I will be doing each time.

But a couple of things were different.  ONE - vibrations started almost immediately. TWO - My thighs did not hurt during the vibrational state like they had been doing for a long time now.  (PROGRESS!!)  The experience was totally different without my thighs hurting to distract me. Because of that I just felt like I was floating inside my body nearly instantly. I just really got into this float and stayed suspended for 30 min or so. It was absolutely blissful. It felt like I was drifting in the dark. I could not believe how easy it was to get into this state when my upper frontal thighs were not hurting. :-) I just lay there and felt like I was in a warm bucket of water.   

Then somewhere in the audio background, I kept hearing this foreign sound.  It brought me back to C1.  My dog was barking to go outside.  After all, it was 4:30 am.  Time for him to use the restroom. (Dang it all to h*ll...).

After he got his business done, when I lay back down, I promptly fell asleep. 

It is 9:11 am right now. Tonight, I plan on being in bed between 10 am and midnight and I will repeat exactly what I did last night.

Jenn  8-)

It's 3:29 pm.  I'm going to give it a go in about 30 min...

I never was able to lay down earlier.  But I am fixing to. My computer is shut down and I'm on my phone and in my pjs.

I just wanted to (or had to) say something I've noticed. Just sitting here in my computer chair, if I close my eyes and take a deep breath to relax, within 2-3 or so seconds I feel vibrations and movement. Wide awake sitting up. Five seconds is too much time. It's quicker than that. It's nearly instantaneous. It's like I close my eyes and it flows into a vibration with movement.

I even experimented a little. I got up and walked around, drank some water and went and sat back down again. Same thing happened.

This is wonderful!!  I'm being entrained!!

It's 1:52 am and I'm finally fixing to lay down. I'm on a weird sleep schedule.

I also finally have my chart exactly like I want it. I am logging everything.  :roll: I can't help it. It's just how I am...

Cheers,
Jenn

P.s. I'm excited and expectant, but calm.  I spent a lot of time in the back yard today. I'm nice and grounded.  :-D

Last thing. It even happens sitting here holding my phone if I close my eyes. Wow!!  I know it sounds outlandish but it's really true. I consider this true progress!!

You're in "the zone"!  Lean into that.

You really can focus entirely upon that and use it!  :)

Yes, I think I'm in the zone too. Thank you for saying that!  That's a great way to describe it.  I've been practicing but right now for whatever reason I'm falling asleep again... :-o All that movement just stuck there!!  But I've been working really hard outside the last couple of days too.  That may be why I'm having trouble staying awake.  I'm just about done with yard work again...

My garden is still producing this September.  I suspect the pear tomatoes will be around through late October.  I'm waiting for my peppers to turn red, but I had to pick some anyway. I've had some amazing hot sauce and spicy things this summer. I have Habernoes, red sativa, and chili pequin growing. I eat the little chili pequin all the time.  Delicious... And the habs are my favorite pepper for cooking.

This was a partial harvest of yesterday.

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It's 5:30 am.  I'm fixing to lay back down.  I feel rested so HOPEFULLY I'll stay awake.

Cheers,
Jenn



 

 

Oooooh Habaneros!!  Nice.  :)
I used to grow Ghost Peppers and Carolina Reapers. 
Grew so many of them that I still have boxes full of dried peppers from many years back.   :-o  8-)

Quote from: Xanth on September 02, 2023, 09:57:57Oooooh Habaneros!!  Nice.  :)
I used to grow Ghost Peppers and Carolina Reapers. 
Grew so many of them that I still have boxes full of dried peppers from many years back.   :-o  8-)

I have grown ghost peppers too!!!  Hot as fire!!  I love experimenting with different hot sauces with different flavors and peppers.

I suspect I will have boxes of peppers this year as well.  I have seven pepper plants.  Six in the backyard growing in tires and one in the front yard in a 25-gallon pot.  The ones in the back are nearly up to my shoulders. I have thousands of peppers literally.  They look like a hedge growing.

On another note, I have not obed yet but I have another thing going on.  Since I have been meditating so much, over the last few days, I can be doing something (anything) and this smell will waft in front of me.  A very sweet flowery smell that really just smells delicious. A strong smell. I don't have any flowers in the house so I am not sure what it is but I feel like it's something spiritual related. That has happened two or three times the last couple days.

Jenn

That is one good looking harvest Blossom.
You have a flower fairy lurking in your garden.

Quote from: Nameless on September 03, 2023, 10:07:17That is one good looking harvest Blossom.
You have a flower fairy lurking in your garden.

Thank you!! I love gardening in the spring. That flower fairy is welcome anytime. :-D

PROGRESS!!

Well, since I've learned how to use Audacity, I ripped the .cda on the disk that I am supposed to listen to for 21 straight days and made it an mp3.  I added Jurgen to the end of it --  his Multidimensional Man, which I love. I added it playing three times to the end of Dr. Steve.  :-D  It's a little over two hours in length.

I went to bed last night listening to my ripped mp3.  Even though it was long, I had it on repeat.

During Dr. Steve's portion, I fell asleep and woke up twice while the mp3 was playing the first time around. 

The first time I woke up to Dr. Steve, I was absolutely in a deep meditative state.  I stayed awake as long as I could and just really got into what he was saying.  I just flowed with his background noise. It was beautiful.  But I fell asleep at some point.. I suspect I was awake around 10 min or so.  Not long.   

The second time I woke, it was getting toward the end of Dr. Steve's portion on the tape.  Probably 10 min or so until his portion ends and Jurgen takes over. I was in some sort of dark floaty place, not the void.  But I was definitely in some sort of trance state upon awakening.  I tried hard to only listen to Dr. Steve's voice and to stay coherent.  But I fell asleep..  :roll:  again...

When I came to for the third time, Jurgen was playing.  The tape of Jurgen had passed all the OM portions of his recording, which are at the beginning of his tape. I have no way of knowing if it was the first, second, or third insert of MultiDimensional Man I had added behind Dr. Steve. I only know it was after the OM portion. 

But this third time -->> when I regained consciousness (woke up during Jurgen), I was out of body and floating INSIDE my body.  :-o  :-D  :-o  :-D And my astral body was lying face down, and not face up, INSIDE my physical body. I just kept listening to Jurgen in the background and marveled at the state I was in. In the position I was in, I could see through my physical body and see the bed below me, which was just a few inches away from my astral face. I started trying to move my fingers and toes but fell back asleep pretty quickly I think. I wasn't coherent for long. A few minutes. Just long enough to know what was happening.  I completely forgot how to move away from my physical body even though I was fully conscious inside my astral body.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: I couldn't figure out how to move away, how to fly, how to bounce.  haha.  I have read everything, listened to everything and I went blank. It wasn't excitement that made me go back to sleep or jump back into my body.  In fact, l I don't even remember going back to my body.  I was still trying to move AWAY from my physical body when all of a sudden it was morning and I knew I had fallen back asleep. But I woke up smiling.  It was the first thing on my mind this morning.  I didn't fly to the moon or have some great adventure, but "I saw through my physical body" to the bed.  My physical body was of no concern. Seeing the bed below my astral face, at the time, seemed like a bigger deal than seeing through my physical body.  lol...

HISTORY: A day or so ago, I listened to one of Dr. Steve's tapes, where he was describing advanced techniques, and one was "the Superman technique". You were supposed to get out of body and then flip your astral self inside your body so you can take off like Superman.  I think maybe that influenced my being in the position I was in when I woke the third time. Hallelujah!

There was another method by Dr. Steve that I listened to was about programming yourself to wake at a certain time WHEN you are out of body. I wonder if that also influenced me.  They "superman technique" and the "awake during obe technique" were on the same tape.  I think I better listen to that one again.. hahaha

My practice is paying off.  I had just a taste of what is to come..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am super pumped right now... YES YES YES!!

Jenn 8-)

p.s.  I know this seems like a small thing, but it's a very big thing to me.  I was floating inside my body fully conscious..  ah... I have been trying to do that for so long.  I'm thrilled and over the moon! I did it.

Today is the eighth day of my 21 days to repeat my pre-energy work and listen to my tape.

I'm just sitting here marveling.  I actually saw through physical matter.  wow..

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I started listening to Monroe on July 23, 2023 and today is Sept 4th. 
That's how long took to get "out of body" while being fully immersed in multiple daily meditations with Monroe, Dr. Steve, and Jurgen.  AND listening to one of them constantly at night while sleeping.
It took me 43 days of meditation immersion.

I know most people could not do this the way I have done it.  Because most people just don't have the physical time in their schedules.  And everyone is different too.  Some people might do it really quickly.  Some slow like me.

And I'm still not sure HOW I did it.  I'm thinking that all the things I have been doing and listening to have trained my brain in some manner.  Because last night was no different than the other 43 nights, except I have more knowledge, more practice, more experience in practicing..  Thats the only difference between last night and night 1.  And I am also extremely tenacious.  I don't give up.  I have been trying to get out of body for 20+ years and have refused to give up --   since I first experienced a conscious OBE.  But for 20 years, I failed. Then 43 days ago, I started Monroe and did 4-5 waves, then added Dr. Steve and then Jurgen, as I did not feel I was making progress with Monroe.  They were all my first "music, guided meditation etc..."  Something about what I have done the last 43 days had made my success happen but I'm not sure exactly what it was or how I did it. But the method of guided meditations might have made the difference.  Either that or it was just my time to progress spiritually.

I just know I am looking forward to tonight.

Jenn

 How you did it? Your continued practice and patience finally convinced your "higher self" that you are ready to experience anew. You have been using a very strong form of "brain entrainment". You have showed your passion and never gave up. You were challenged, yet you met those challenges head on. Congratulations. Pretty soon you are going to also notice that just simply closing your eyes kind of jump starts the whole process again and again. You probably also notice by now that when you just simply close your eyes, it looks and "feels" different than it did before.

Quote from: Lumaza on September 04, 2023, 13:46:59How you did it? Your continued practice and patience finally convinced your "higher self" that you are ready to experience anew. You have been using a very strong form of "brain entrainment". You have showed your passion and never gave up. You were challenged, yet you met those challenges head on. Congratulations. Pretty soon you are going to also notice that just simply closing your eyes kind of jump starts the whole process again and again. You probably also notice by now that when you just simply close your eyes, it looks and "feels" different than it did before.

You are right in saying when I close my eyes, things are different.  I'm nearly instantly in the vibrational state.  I feel like I should have been this determined years ago..

Thank you Lumaza.  I always love your input.  It's puts things back in perspective.  I just hope this was not a fluke and that it continues.  This small success makes me MORE determined than ever.

My next goal is to get out again and fly to the moon...

Jenn

I'M THRILLED!!!

I have a sign on my bathroom mirror that says "I am more than physical matter".

My ex came by today and I was dying to tell someone what happened last night so as I started relaying all of it to him, I happened to catch the look on his face. ut oh...  I put on the brakes,  stopped talking about it, and diverted the conversation in another direction and onward to another subject.  Thank god I had not gotten to the good part yet about being conscious inside my astral body while inside my physical body.

I could tell by his look that he thought I was stark living crazy, regardless of what he said in the past about astral travel... I will never discuss this with him again. 

Quote from: Blossom on September 04, 2023, 21:36:40I have a sign on my bathroom mirror that says "I am more than physical matter".

My ex came by today and I was dying to tell someone what happened last night so as I started relaying all of it to him, I happened to catch the look on his face. ut oh...  I put on the brakes,  stopped talking about it, and diverted the conversation in another direction and onward to another subject.  Thank god I had not gotten to the good part yet about being conscious inside my astral body while inside my physical body.

I could tell by his look that he thought I was stark living crazy, regardless of what he said in the past about astral travel... I will never discuss this with him again. 

Yeah, you can usually tell right away how receptive to this subject people will be. 
I'm always careful with whom I share.  :)

Quote from: Xanth on September 04, 2023, 22:10:21Yeah, you can usually tell right away how receptive to this subject people will be. 
I'm always careful with whom I share.  :)

I'll be doing the same.  Being careful. I can talk to my son about it but not my daughter-in-law.  I tentatively mentioned meditation to her.  She is in her mid-20s and she said "Oh I know some people who meditate.  Every morning they do a 2 min Christian meditation.".  I did not continue the conversation.  I felt like it would go nowhere. She is a wonderful person, but she has some set ways and that's okay. She came from an extremely religious family.  Her dad is a preacher.  Each unto their own, but I sure hate to see someone be closed to new things and new experiences, especially being so young. I hope one day, for her, that she has a wonderful experience that opens her eyes.

My son is more open.  Most of the time.  :-o  :-D He is 40.

Jenn

Yes, you have to be aware of the 'look', that slight sidewise glance or stare that explains no one is receiving...

It is disappointing when it happens, yet enlightening. It proves a certain sense of solitude many of us share; which is its own community, I guess.

There is often the hope of Time and that attitudes open wider.

Most people know of meditation. I feel that it should really be normalized even more than it already is.

It should be taught in schools starting as early as kindergarten. I truly believe it would bring a new era to humanity.  Such a simple thing - to sit quietly.

Now, unlike projection, I am a bit more open about my meditations to people and the benefit it gives.

Prayer is also a form of meditation, you could broach that subject with your in law.  👍

Feel the waters from there.

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on September 04, 2023, 22:38:02Yes, you have to be aware of the 'look', that slight sidewise glance or stare that explains no one is receiving...

It is disappointing when it happens, yet enlightening. It proves a certain sense of solitude many of us share; which is its own community, I guess.

There is often the hope of Time and that attitudes open wider.

Yes, I caught that look from my ex.  I know the look. :? It was the sideways glance.  I think I understand the solitude now.  This forum is basically the only place I can be open about everything.

It's really kind of sad that in this day and age, people still are closed on some issues spiritually. I think they are afraid of finding out it's true. If they believe this is possible, it changes basic concepts that everyone is raised by in this modern age. They just don't know how to handle "the possibility" of something so different ... It scares them but they would not dare admit it. It's easier to believe the person is a little off.

Quote from: Xanth on September 04, 2023, 22:41:56Most people know of meditation. No feel that it should really be normalized even more than it already is.

It should be taught in schools starting as early as kindergarten. I truly believe it would bring a new era to humanity.  Such a simple thing - to sit quietly.

Now, unlike projection, I am a bit more open about my meditations to people and the benefit it gives.

Prayer is also a form of meditation, you could broach that subject with your in law.  👍

Feel the waters from there.

I think it would be great if it were in schools. Even if it were only five minutes in the morning and five minutes after school before they went home. I'm with you on that. But I doubt many parents would agree. I think it would benefit young children a lot. Not many know how to sit quietly.  They are over-stimulated most of the time with television, movies, gaming etc...

I think for now, I just won't share my experiences with my family members. In the future, maybe. I'll just have to make that call if it happens. Right now, my sister, my son, and AP forum are it.

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Right now, I'm listening to strategies for moving around after someone gets out of body. I've got to have a plan WHEN this happens again.  And I sure hope it's tonight. :-D  :-D



Jenn

p.s.  Thanks y'all.


 

Quote from: Blossom on September 05, 2023, 00:00:50I think it would be great if it were in schools. Even if it were only five minutes in the morning and five minutes after school before they went home. I'm with you on that. But I doubt many parents would agree. I think it would benefit young children a lot. Not many know how to sit quietly.  They are over-stimulated most of the time with television, movies, gaming etc...

I think for now, I just won't share my experiences with my family members. In the future, maybe. I'll just have to make that call if it happens. Right now, my sister, my son, and AP forum are it.

I remember my parents thinking I was brainwashing myself when I started to meditate in my early teen years.  Haha

It wasn't until years later that they realized it was actually a healthy thing to do - that it actually helped.

Nowadays my parents are more open with stuff like this.  👍

Quote from: Blossom on September 04, 2023, 15:40:14Thank you Lumaza.  I always love your input.  It's puts things back in perspective.  I just hope this was not a fluke and that it continues.  This small success makes me MORE determined than ever.

My next goal is to get out again and fly to the moon...

Jenn

I'M THRILLED!!!

You're welcome!  :-)

Unfortunately, you will find you are challenged to repeat it "like you already did". I find that the next couple of times after the initial success seem to be more challenging than the initial one was. That's when the real "tests" begin. I don't believe it was a fluke, but I do believe that your next success will be something that you never expected. Good luck!

Quote from: Lumaza on September 05, 2023, 19:28:13You're welcome!  :-)

Unfortunately, you will find you are challenged to repeat it "like you already did". I find that the next couple of times after the initial success seem to be more challenging than the initial one was. That's when the real "tests" begin. I don't believe it was a fluke, but I do believe that your next success will be something that you never expected. Good luck!

You are right --> absolutely.  I have not been able to repeat the process. I changed my process for two days trying to enhance things and that was a mistake. Excitement got the better of me.

My Mistake:
I had been trying the last couple days/nights to go to bed earlier and so PRIOR to being sleepy. I did this because I wanted more time to meditate. I was excited. I tried that for two days/nights. It definitely does not work for me. I am very hyper mentally.  I discovered that if I go to bed prior to being sleepy,  I can't meditate and my mind races.  I cannot slow things down enough to get in a meditive mode mentally. In my normal waking mode, I can concentrate and think with clarity about 10 things at one time and keep track of them all. When my older relatives were alive, we would all sit around a table and all have many many different conversations at the same time with everyone and we all knew what we were talking about. Used to drive my husband crazy. He could not keep up with what was happening but it was normal to us.  :-D  8-) It had always been so.

I think I MUST be sleepy in other to get in the right frame of mind because that's when my mind is winding down.  Last night I also slept with Monroe again in my ears vs Dr. Steve to try and slow down.

I think the best thing to do is "to change nothing". Just keep doing what I was doing. No change.

The two things I discovered the last couple days is 1 -I don't fall asleep if I am not sleepy AND 2 -if I am not sleepy, I can't slow my mind down to meditate..  lol...  Those seem like a gimme to most people, but I know now. You don't know until you try something. I need to be in a S L O W - M O D E, a S L E E P Y - M O D E to be successful...  At least I know that with certainty now.

So... I am going to keep doing what I was doing.  I need to flow again. I can't flow with a racing mind.
1am to 2pm needs to be my time when I start. That's when I start slowing down.

Jenn

One more thing.. 

REF: Going to bed without being sleepy has no bearing on the vibrational state when I close my eyes.  I still vibrate when I close my eyes and sense movement, regardless of my racing mind. But the racing mind stops it from going further.

My mind and being able to slow it down sufficiently is the entire key. No problem with vibrational state OR movement.

"Laser focus" is my primary goal.. I'll keep "flying to the moon" as a quick second..

Prior to "turning on my earbuds", I'm going to do breath counting exercises and then breath awareness exercises for a period of time.  I'll know when I'm ready to turn the earbuds on.

I've had Monroe in my ears most of the day..

After I finish Dr. Steve, I'll start back on Monroe.  I've made a list of the recordings and took out what might be considered fluff :-o . Then I copied a list of several of them, stuck them in a separate folder, converted them to mp3s and when I start back on Monroe, this is what I am going to listen to and also the order I plan on using. I changed the name to reflect the file type and now I'm set. This is a couple weeks out at least.

Jenn  :lol:

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I'm going to go 48 hrs (this weekend) with no guided meditations. I need a break I think.

HOWEVER, I'm going to meditate the old fashioned way during this time.  I'm hoping I can get where I want to be.

I'm going to do my tree meditation for a couple days.  I was extremely successful doing this in the past, so we'll see how it goes. Since I can feel the vibrational state and movement when I close my eyes, I am hopeful that will jumpstart the process.

Another meditation I used in the past (to get sucked out through a straw) was a head concentration meditation.

I'm going to do both of those.

I'm not posting because there is nothing to report.  I am having zero luck.  Tonight I am back to listening to Monroe.  FreeFlow Focus 10.  Back to the beginning.

I'm trying to not get discouraged.  This has to be simpler than I am making it. I will try to only meditate to Monroe and put obe out of my mind. I'm trying to hard. I need to relax more I think.

Hello Blossom, I'm so glad you were successful! I loved reading your experience seeing the bed through your physical body and feeling yourself in your astral body. Nice to see all those hours of practice paying off!  I'm sure that soon everything will be clearer and you will be able to repeat the experience, you will find "the twist" and you will reproduce it. You are very detailed and organized and I am sure you will realize it soon. 

Respect talking about this with others, I never do it. In fact it's sad that some of my friends have even had some spontaneous obe in the past, but they got scared and weren't interested in broaching the subject. And the saddest thing is that despite knowing of the existence of other planes, it is difficult for them to believe my experiences because they have not experienced anything similar, many people only believe what they experience. Luckily I no longer feel the need to communicate this with the people around me, my family never knew anything about what I do, nor do I plan to talk about it, many of them could be scared, and see it as "a ride into dead's world".
How lucky we are because Astral Pulse exists! I give thanks for that.

From my window I can see now a big full moon today, it makes you want to fly there :wink: 

Greetings!

Quote from: Tak_09 on September 28, 2023, 18:38:23Respect talking about this with others, I never do it. In fact it's sad that some of my friends have even had some spontaneous obe in the past, but they got scared and weren't interested in broaching the subject. And the saddest thing is that despite knowing of the existence of other planes, it is difficult for them to believe my experiences because they have not experienced anything similar, many people only believe what they experience.

I hear you, Tak! For us, we wish more people were on the same wavelength, but I have come to understand that they have chosen not to have that awareness at this time so they can keep themselves in that isolated environment in order to experience certain lessons for learning purposes. So, at the end I do understand them and respect their choices. That doesn't mean that they are less advanced. They have their own plans of experiences and when and where to lift the veil. Some of them have agreed to play the bad guys here in order to create scenarios and be tools for others to learn and grow, and also for themselves to test to what degree they can become aware within the game and discover the love. It's a true collaboration between all characters.
We are all equal from a larger perspective. By knowing that nothing bothers me anymore behavior wise that is coming from others. I am grateful for the Pulse where we find outlet to talk about it, but I never feel alone, even in this quest. No one is ever alone. If felt, that is just an illusion. If we only know how many helpers are around us at all time. It's truly a huge party :)   

I am on a fruit juice fast for 30 days to detox and rejuvenate my body.  The last time I fasted I had amazing results just in the general feel of my body.  I am on day 4.  I'm hoping for a breakthrough in my meditations..  I'm not trying to lose weight, so I can drink as much as I want in order to feel sated.

Jenn

Last night as I lay in bed, I could feel electric jolts shooting through my head every few seconds or so. At the same time it occured, I could see a flash of light. The flash of light was was wide but thin.  Shaped like a piece of plywood. I was NOT meditating, but just laying there quietly thinking about things to do when it started. It was around 3:30am  It was awesome!!  I'm hoping... It lasted for five minutes or so and I just enjoyed it while it was there.

I think cleansing my body with fruit juice is going to have a big effect eventually.  I am not using the tapes at this time. I'm back to the old fashioned way. I tried with the tapes but had no results except very minimal. I might try again while I'm juicing but I'll just have to see when I think the time is right.

Also by the way, I feel amazing on this juice fast.  I feel on top of the world. I'm trying to purify my body and basically just give my body a break.  It takes a lot of vital energy and vital force from our bodies for sold food to digest.  In spite of being 99 percent vegan, my body needed/needs this break.

Jenn

Quote from: Blossom on October 20, 2023, 06:32:27I think cleansing my body with fruit juice is going to have a big effect eventually.

That's great, Jenn! I have noticed the same with fasting and strict healthy eating that does not burden the body too much digesting all the time. I have noticed that when during holidays when I typically eat whatever I want and abandon all types of healthy eating, my NP experiences significantly diminish and even my level of being connected at all time to the divine goes away. I turn into a complete human with a body that feels heavy and dense and my brain stops transmitting. I think it has to do with the brain also being burdened by slow functioning body if loaded with so much food and the wrong food all the time, and not having enough nutrients and break from digesting to give a rest and have the opportunity to function at optimal level to be able to transmit. Keep going and I hope you get greater and greater results.

Quote from: LightBeam on October 20, 2023, 09:19:38That's great, Jenn! I have noticed the same with fasting and strict healthy eating that does not burden the body too much digesting all the time. I have noticed that when during holidays when I typically eat whatever I want and abandon all types of healthy eating, my NP experiences significantly diminish and even my level of being connected at all time to the divine goes away. I turn into a complete human with a body that feels heavy and dense and my brain stops transmitting. I think it has to do with the brain also being burdened by slow functioning body if loaded with so much food and the wrong food all the time, and not having enough nutrients and break from digesting to give a rest and have the opportunity to function at optimal level to be able to transmit. Keep going and I hope you get greater and greater results.

OH thats so nice to hear about being more spiritual when eating clean!!  I feel so good right now. And I'm very excited about this fast right now also. I have had NO detox symptoms..

I'm not sure if I have already posted this but I am  having EXTREMELY vivid dreams in color.  Complicated dreams with lots going on.  I remember them in vivid excruciating detail.  They are not lucid, just vivid. And when I wake it's as though there are remants of the dream affecting my waking state.

This morning I lay down and fell asleep around 8am or so, and not to go into all the detail (too long and very involved), but in a portion of my dream there was this nasty looking guy driving a two tone yellow and brown chevy with dirty scraggly long blond hair.  I just KNEW he was a drug addict somehow.  How, I have no idea. But I decided to call 911 based on his driving.  :-) He was also going through a box on my neighbors porch and they weren't home.  This was across the street from my house. I got a phone out of my pocket and called 911.  This was not my personal cell phone and for some reason, when I called 911 it kept ringing my actual neighbor in real life.  Ruth. It would not connect to 911. So I sprinted to my garage and found my phone and called 911 from my cell phone but when the dispatcher answered, I could not remember my address or the town I lived in. I could not tell her where I was.  So I had the 911 operator "stand by" while I ran to the end of the next block to look at the street names. But my street was not on the sign.  So I ran to the next block and same thing occurred.  (end of the tiny dream portion)

When I woke up from this dream and got out of bed, my dream was uppermost in my thoughts. I was thinking about it in it's entirely. It was pretty darn awesome. It was soooo realistic. So real. So authentic. I remember everything about it. Every detail. I had only been awake a few minutes at this point. But I suddenly realized I had no idea what town I lived in or my freaking address... just like in the dream. I was clueless. I walked around my house and tried HARD to remember my physical location and I could not. I did not want to look at a letter to find out.  I wanted to remember but it was gone. It was like a blank spot in my brain. Totally.  I'm not kidding. My memory was exactly like in my dream. I hated to, but I finally, after about 10 minutes, I looked at some mail and there it was. My address. It all came flooding back.

Like I was saying earlier, it was like a remant of my dream was affecting my waking state.
Pretty weird, huh? :-o

Jenn

I love reading your progress over time Jenn, how great the vivid and colorful dreams are. My dreams tend to be gloomy, cloudy, with gray and blue tones, in the twilight, if it's not night! I don't know why. This doesn't bother me, on the contrary, I love them, it gives a lot of suspense and adrenaline to everything (not always but most of them). Where do you buy those Dreamland's ink cartridges? I miss those explosions of colors!  :-o

What happened to you doesn't seem strange to me at all, although I don't know why, it happened to me (and even worse!) In the last years 3 times I woke up and didn't know where I was, in which country, or even in what year or absolutely nothing ... total reset! Only lasted about 10 seconds and everything came back, something inside told me that I should stay calm, that I would remember soon and so it was. This could be because I was a backpacker for four years (yes, I really like traveling and meeting people, on Earth too!) and changing places so quickly could generate that effect, but at that time I was stable, it was really strange, it happened to me last year also and I'm not traveling. Unlike you, I don't remember what happened during my dream to get into that situation. Perhaps I have gone further than I have been able to process, or I returned faster than usual... who knows.

I see that you have a great skill with dreams Jenn, the fact that they are so vivid and real means that you are just one step away from making them lucid. Have you not considered inducing lucid dreams and projecting that way? I believe you have the potential to achieve this. I never learned to induce paralysis and vibrations at will and detach myself like the classic OBEs, but I "cross the threshold" through lucid dreams. Maybe that's your way.

Let's go with those dreams!

Quote from: Tak09 on October 21, 2023, 10:01:32I love reading your progress over time Jenn, how great the vivid and colorful dreams are. My dreams tend to be gloomy, cloudy, with gray and blue tones, in the twilight, if it's not night! I don't know why. This doesn't bother me, on the contrary, I love them, it gives a lot of suspense and adrenaline to everything (not always but most of them). Where do you buy those Dreamland's ink cartridges? I miss those explosions of colors!  :-o

What happened to you doesn't seem strange to me at all, although I don't know why, it happened to me (and even worse!) In the last years 3 times I woke up and didn't know where I was, in which country, or even in what year or absolutely nothing ... total reset! Only lasted about 10 seconds and everything came back, something inside told me that I should stay calm, that I would remember soon and so it was. This could be because I was a backpacker for four years (yes, I really like traveling and meeting people, on Earth too!) and changing places so quickly could generate that effect, but at that time I was stable, it was really strange, it happened to me last year also and I'm not traveling. Unlike you, I don't remember what happened during my dream to get into that situation. Perhaps I have gone further than I have been able to process, or I returned faster than usual... who knows.

I see that you have a great skill with dreams Jenn, the fact that they are so vivid and real means that you are just one step away from making them lucid. Have you not considered inducing lucid dreams and projecting that way? I believe you have the potential to achieve this. I never learned to induce paralysis and vibrations at will and detach myself like the classic OBEs, but I "cross the threshold" through lucid dreams. Maybe that's your way.

Let's go with those dreams!

I'll have to do some readings on lucid dreams.  I have traveled too.  I'm 65 and back in my hayday, myself and a few friends went around the country a couple of times just seeing what we could see. I totally get the traveling bug. Right now I'm going back to work SOON to save frugally in order to erect a small off grid cabin on a piece of land. It is my dream and I feel it is still achievable.  It was awesome to travel however.

And back to lucid -- > Lucid, from what I've read, is KNOWING you are dreaming while in the dream.  I'm not sure how to achieve that but I think that would be great.  You might be on to something as far as my inner journeys.  I have had three conscious OBEs but thats all.  I'll try lucid.

Thank you so much for that tip!  And I am so glad someone else had a momentary loss of identity..  It didn't scare me but then I knew I was in my house.  Being someplace where I did not have access to a "letter" might have been totally different..

And I have always loved having vivid dreams.  They just seem MORE vivid right now than is usual.  I have had gloomy before but they are not the norm.

Cheers,
Jenn

Quote from: Tak09 on October 21, 2023, 10:01:32Where do you buy those Dreamland's ink cartridges? I miss those explosions of colors!  :-o

Sorry I forgot to answer that.
The Gateway tapes from ebay.
The Dr Steve Jones Explorations Beyond the Body, Explorations Intensive, and Exploration Advanced Journeys are from ebay too.

That's all I have.  I have never heard of Dreamland but it sounds interesting based on the name!

Jenn :-D