DMT

[Cho]

Has anyone ever tried DMT and, if so, does one know where to obtain some of this currently illegal drug in it's most natural mode, or if it even possible nowadays? Or if anyone has managed to frame it on their own in a way that it would provide satisfactory results
I noticed that it's less and less observable, especially around university campuses where it used to be seen a lot in former times.


Here is more information for those interested in this amazing substance:

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[slapbasser1121]

I have heard of the drug, i have never tried it myself but i remember years ago i was reading a book about the subject and Rick Strassman the author of DMT: the spirit molecule said that it is almost getting to the point where you dont have to know where it IS found but where it ISN't found because it is found in a wide variety of plants all around the world.  pretty interesting huh?

[Cho]

Yes, I think it is what part of the website says that it is contained in quite a lot of plants. But the question that bothers me is how to extract the DMT substance itself without the rest  of what the plant is made of.
I know dealers used to sell this drug before, usually to college students but I have not seen it recently. Also it has become illegal without any justification whatsoever.
I think the amazonian Ayahuasca, made by the shamans there, contains this substance and because of that it is so strong when it comes increasing the perception beyond the physical senses.

[Greytraveller]

Hi Cho
No, I have never tried smokable DMT, smokable 5-MeO-DMT or the shamans' brew Ayahuasca (DMT and harmala plants.) Given the right set and setting it might be tempting, but well anyway here are two more Really good sites for info.

(link removed) They are separate "vaults, including "trip reports" for all three of the above substances.
(link removed) Also a lot of good info and reports.

Regards 
grey

[Xanth]

Why would you want to take short cuts?
Learn to do it yourself and you'll be much stronger for it in the end.

[Cho]

Why would you want to take short cuts?
Learn to do it yourself and you'll be much stronger for it in the end.

Hello

@ Xanth: I think you have missed my aim with this. Only when you try the shaman ayahuascha you will see what I mean. It's about healing, even though an inevitably pertaining aspect is the thrust to higher states of consciousness (remaining for the rest of your life after a couple of sips) that I assume you were referring to.

@Greytraveler: Thanks for the information. I figured it'd be best if I travel to Amazonia this summer and learn how to brew the herb myself. I know of a shaman there that a friend of mine is in close relations with, and he'd be glad to teach.

[Cho]

Apparently that would be the best thing to do the first couple of times.

Post by ladyjane from David Icke forums:

Hi everyone
I have drunk Ayahuasca 10 times under the guidance of two master shaman Ayahuascaros plus three apprentices in the Peruvian Amazon and am returning later this year for 5 more ceremonies.

I know Aya is available in the West but I would never take it without the guidance of a master shaman who can hold the space and ensure no dark entities enter one's auric field whilst in the mareacion (ayahusaca state).
Ayahuasca opens the crown chakra fully and in an unprotected environment very, very unpleasant beings can take advantage of that. This is not fluffy New Age BS but a very serious warning. Demonic possession is real and not fun.

Not only that, taking Ayahuasca is not a recreational activity like popping a few 'shrooms. It will send to into the depths of your own hell, screaming, shitting and puking, thinking you're dying in order to deal with whatever you have to deal with. It is strong medicine, NOT a recreational drug.

Ayahuasca is not like other psychedelics but will take you beyond a trip experience deep into other realities. If any of you have read Rick Strausman's book DMT The Spirit Molecule you will read the accounts of seasoned psychedelic users describing DMT as like nothing else they have taken. Ayahuasca differs in certain respects to pure intravenous DMT but parallels can be drawn. For example, one subject is quoted as saying "this is REAL, not just like doing LSD/mushrooms".

I would concur. Ayahuasca bears no resemblence to any psychedelic I had taken. Interestingly, the Amazonian shamans are offended if you call the sacred vine a 'drug' or 'psychedelic'. Ayahuasca is so much more than that and as such should be treated with the highest respect. The vine should be taken, I feel, only in a sacred and protected setting.

This is why I am a little alarmed with folks on this thread suggesting home consumption. Perosnally I would never, ever do this but if you must, do your homework and know what you're letting yourself in for first.

[WASD]

Heard alot of good things about it              has a wiki with a guide on how to make it at home, but i never tried it.
     
I think i heard              was good.

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[Cho]

Hello

Interesting technique, the last one. I will try it soon, see what happens. I will post results for anyone interested.
Thanks

[Greytraveller]

Hi Cho, you wrote

@Greytraveler: Thanks for the information. I figured it'd be best if I travel to Amazonia this summer and learn how to brew the herb myself. I know of a shaman there that a friend of mine is in close relations with, and he'd be glad to teach

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I must say that you are one lucky son of a gun. I have only read about bonafide amazonian shamanic ayahuasca ceremonies in books (Jim DeKorne's "Psychedelic Shamanism") and seen them on tv (A program about the Amazon on Discovery or History Chanel this past Sunday night). From what I understand about taking ayahuasca the set and setting are VERY important. The intention, the location, the other people in the ceremony and the master shaman all must be in harmony in order for the participants to get benevolent visions and an OBE.
So good luck with that.

Regards 
Grey

[Cho]

Hi Cho, you wrote.

I must say that you are one lucky son of a gun. I have only read about bonafide amazonian shamanic ayahuasca ceremonies in books (Jim DeKorne's "Psychedelic Shamanism") and seen them on tv (A program about the Amazon on Discovery or History Chanel this past Sunday night). From what I understand about taking ayahuasca the set and setting are VERY important. The intention, the location, the other people in the ceremony and the master shaman all must be in harmony in order for the participants to get benevolent visions and an OBE.
So good luck with that.

Regards 
Grey

Hello, Greytraveler

This particular shaman I know of has given a friend of mine the ayahuasca before ( she is a missionary in Peru right now ). When she drank it, she had a very clear image of a snake resting upon her head, she began perceiving through the illusion of this frequency, into other dimensions, and still does. Some 30 minutes of puking was involved in the beginning so as to, as far as I understand, clean the body and soul. I don't think she has been ill ever since, including any negative emotions of loss and so forth, which is what I am most interested in - the healing.

I think the vines growing in the jungle there contain high amounts of DMT molecule. Yet, I realised it would be worse than suicide if I am to take the real shamanistic substance without any protection. In the long term, it might be like imposing life upon something that is suffering, in a way. And I can't think of anything worse than that.

It's a shame shamans are disappearing one by one. I think in Africa there are 2 or 3 left as well.

[Envix]

it's quite easy to extract yourself. you can obtain the plant material from the internet and find some basic instructions for extraction.

[WASD]

Hello

Interesting technique, the last one. I will try it soon, see what happens. I will post results for anyone interested.
Thanks

Yes I'd love that I want to try myself but i live with my parents. And i don't wanna take it alone. I know some people that do cannabis but i don't know anyone that knows about DMT, i even asked the ones who do cannabis.

[Stookie]

It's an illegal substance and all links to a way to extract it have been removed. It's against the AUP.  Plus, there are websites devoted to the discussion. We're about astral projection.