Has anyone had access to the astral realm. just by closing their eyes.....

[Xanth]

Ok....if it is a Focus 3 overlay experience, how are these beings able to touch me? I can assure you that I'm not hallucinating the touching, as it's been going on for quite a while now. Just last night while I was laying in bed....couldn't sleep, one of the beings was patting me on the shoulder as if to comfort me! Right now, one of them has their hand on my shoulder??? And my eyes aren't closed......? Perplexing.....

That would simply be "your mind filling in the blanks" for you.
I mean, I've had dreams where I've been "holding an item"... then as I'm waking up I'd swear I was still holding that very same item, only to find that it's something entirely different.

That's what I think is happening.  In my opinion.

~Ryan

[Annika]

That would simply be "your mind filling in the blanks" for you.
I mean, I've had dreams where I've been "holding an item"... then as I'm waking up I'd swear I was still holding that very same item, only to find that it's something entirely different.

That's what I think is happening.  In my opinion.

~Ryan

Hey.....
I feel at a very intuitive level that this is probably not "my mind filling in the blanks". Initially, I experienced "being touched" and had no expectations of any type of beings! A month or two later......one day, I closed my eyes and there they were. This is something else......but again, I appreciate your responses as they usually open up other doors of thought that I can explore......
Thank you

[Velvet V.]

You said you meditate in the first post, what type of meditation is that?

[Annika]

You said you meditate in the first post, what type of meditation is that?

I meditate with a mantra......doesn't everyone?

[personalreality]

no.

[Xanth]

I meditate with a mantra......doesn't everyone?

That is one of many kinds of meditations one can do. 

[Annika]

That is one of many kinds of meditations one can do. 

Thanks Xanth & personalreality....
I've always used a mantra & everyone that I know, friends & relatives all meditate with mantras.....but I stand corrected as to the various ways that one could meditate!

[personalreality]

There are sooooooo many different ways to meditate.

In fact, I didn't even start with mantra meditations until a couple years ago (been meditating many years).

Mantra meditations are a type of meditation geared toward intent focus on one thing.  Basically to narrow the mind to a point.  Similar to watching your breathing.  Though mantras also have a vibrational aspect to them, as in certain tones stimulate different places in the body (organs, energy centers, etc.).

I always did more like observation meditation, where i just observe my mind. 

One of my favorite meditations is geared toward magickal practice.  It involves visualization to reach a certain state of mind that is ideal for ritual.

[Annika]

There are sooooooo many different ways to meditate.

In fact, I didn't even start with mantra meditations until a couple years ago (been meditating many years).

Mantra meditations are a type of meditation geared toward intent focus on one thing.  Basically to narrow the mind to a point.  Similar to watching your breathing.  Though mantras also have a vibrational aspect to them, as in certain tones stimulate different places in the body (organs, energy centers, etc.).

I always did more like observation meditation, where i just observe my mind. 

One of my favorite meditations is geared toward magickal practice.  It involves visualization to reach a certain state of mind that is ideal for ritual.

Hi there.....
I think the reason that mantras work well for me is that I've, in the past, had a lot of mind chatter and in order to disconnect my mind from all the chatter  and really focus, mantras just seem to fit the bill for me. However, an observation mode might be interesting as well......I had never considered that before! My brother attributes my "2nd sight" if you will, from using a mantra and by doing so, fully opening my 3rd eye chakra. I'm not sure if that's how it works.....but something to consider!
Thanks again for the info......

[personalreality]

If your mantra is Om then that's possible.

Oooooaaaaauuuuuummmmm is the 3rd eye mantra.

[Stookie]

I thought it worked your whole chakra system. The "o" starts and the bottom, runs through the diaphragm, and as you breathe it out it works up through every chakra, and by the time you get to "mmm" it should be at your 3rd eye to your crown. And the entire word should have all the vowel sounds. With an "m" at the end of course.

That's how I've done it anyways.

[personalreality]

never done it that way.

I learned to do each chakras mantra separately.

LAM, VAM, RAM, YAM, HUM (hmm), AUM/OM, silent AUM

respectively, root to crown.

OM is the common mantra though, so I could definitely see using it alone.

[Annika]

never done it that way.

I learned to do each chakras mantra separately.

LAM, VAM, RAM, YAM, HUM (hmm), AUM/OM, silent AUM

respectively, root to crown.

OM is the common mantra though, so I could definitely see using it alone.

Interestingly enough, when my 2nd sight started, I was using AUM!
Thanks......

[bluvisnu]

i have acces to another realm without closing my eyes, i don t know if it s astralor somewhere else, i can see people there, feel them and hear them.
to be aware of this dimension i have to stay away from sharing energy with normal humain peoples, because i must be in an high vibration an most of the people are too low ( it is my vision for the moment), so if i stay alone i can keep this vision eternaly and i can be also with some friends who have good and pure energy without loosing it...
so i stay there and try to get a better conexion...
it made me experience that we are spirits into a humain body instead of just knowing it from a book and to me there is a big difference.

[Annika]

i have acces to another realm without closing my eyes, i don t know if it s astralor somewhere else, i can see people there, feel them and hear them.
to be aware of this dimension i have to stay away from sharing energy with normal humain peoples, because i must be in an high vibration an most of the people are too low ( it is my vision for the moment), so if i stay alone i can keep this vision eternaly and i can be also with some friends who have good and pure energy without loosing it...
so i stay there and try to get a better conexion...
it made me experience that we are spirits into a humain body instead of just knowing it from a book and to me there is a big difference.

Hi....
Wow.....I have a feeling that my 2nd sight is going that direction as well. I am beginning to see the outlines of beings even with my eyes open, although if I focus on something more mundane, I'm able to control it.....which is good, because seeing other things not in this realm while driving, could be hazardous to others & myself. I have been able to look at lights for quite awhile and after sharpening my focus on a single beam of light, I can see people in other times or places....not sure if they're from the past, future, alternate or parallel universe or what. Sometimes they're just hanging around or having a party(get-together) or whatever, but it's hard to focus for a long period of time and I can't hear them. Hearing people or beings in other realms seems to be my special challenge.
Have you always been able to do this or is it recently acquired talent? Are the people you see in clothing from our reality or are they dressed differently?
Do they speak English? Are they telepathic and can you communicate with them ? I would love to hear more.......
Thanks for responding and sorry it took so long to see your response......I've been extremely busy!

[bluvisnu]

i m happy you have some interest about my post, it was my first post on this forum, i usually don t speak about this so i didn t know how people will see that.
it is very interesting to me because it gives words on what i live, when i try to explain it becomes clearer for me too.

it is like everybody is doing this always but they are not aware of it, we all live in a multi dimensional universe and we just have to open ourselves to this reality to be aware of it.
i think the opening comes with love, when we replace the fears we all have with love we get the acces to a wider reality.
when i was younger i could see things sometimes but i didn t care about it because i couldn t understand what it really was and the mudane life was so interesting...lol. i had many different spiritual experiences in this life to wake me up but last year i was in india for 6 months and something special happend there after a month alone in the forest of auroville and a lot of meditation i was strong enough to have a perfect stillness of mind.

now it is more clear because i know better how to stay in a higher vibration and i don t do what makes me going down, i try to be aware all the time wich is not easy lol.
they don t have clothes, they are like shinny colored light bodies.
they can speak any language and i undertand them all, it is telepathic but there is words, it is hard to explain...like the brain can translate any of these vibrations into something i can understand, yes i can communicate and i do all day long !

so it is like the faculty it s always been there but now i understand more and i can focus on it.
i had to open my heart to universal love, the fear closes the heart and love opens.
and the stilness of mind is important to see how things work.
meditation is to let go the thoughts and not to try to control anything.
i can see both planes together and i can focus on one.

in love and light

[Loru]

Hey, Annika!

My heart started racing, when I read your posts! You should definately check out this guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/dero7
He talks about the exact same stuff you describe; the beings, touching and all those yes and no questions, and what it all means.

I think this just made me a believer. Thank you.

[Selea]

While I can understand that you feel entrained by what is happening to you usually it's not a so good sign when you see "astral" beings around you without "tuning" to them.

Images in meditation for example should never be of an astral nature, if that's the case it means the circle is seriously broken. While there are many people that like these sort of things they are dangerous from a part and also if they wouldn't be they don't produce anything relevant in any way. The most important thing is never accepting anything that comes by itself, at last if you want to be in control instead of being controlled.

Anyway, this is my first post here, I'm watching with interest the various discussions. I've also read some techniques, also if from what I see people as always tend to create a lot of self-obstacles in what is called "OBE" or "Astral Projection". For what I've seen in all these years the most prevalent is a subconscious fear of success. Anyway I will talk about this a little in some other topic if the discussion will warrant it.

Selea

[personalreality]

If someone is very psychically active it's not really unusual to see the "astral" without tuning in because they are tuned in, they just don't know how to control it.

[Selea]

The problem is that a state of being "physically" active all the time is not a thing so good to have. You begin too much to mingle the planes and that can cause various troubles.

There's a motive why many authors insist that one must tune instead of being always open to interaction. Firstly because when you "open" yourself voluntarily you do so calling or opening up to something you know and can test, while if you are always open you don't know what will come. It is like making your house free for everyone to come in. Secondly, as I said, you begin too much to mix the planes. I specified that there are many people that actually like to do this, however people I've known doing the same have always attracted much more trouble than was worth it.

Anyway I'm not suggesting that it's absolutely bad what's happening to him/her. I know that's very interesting, especially if you never before had an experience as that. I'm only advicing him/her to be on the cautious side. I know for experience how easy it is to let yourself go given the fascination of the thing, till one day you drive your car and don't know if you really invested someone or not. And what's worse is that while coming this far was easy, rebulding the circle it's very difficult, for various motives.

Selea.

[Annika]

The problem is that a state of being "physically" active all the time is not a thing so good to have. You begin too much to mingle the planes and that can cause various troubles.

There's a motive why many authors insist that one must tune instead of being always open to interaction. Firstly because when you "open" yourself voluntarily you do so calling or opening up to something you know and can test, while if you are always open you don't know what will come. It is like making your house free for everyone to come in. Secondly, as I said, you begin too much to mix the planes. I specified that there are many people that actually like to do this, however people I've known doing the same have always attracted much more trouble than was worth it.

Anyway I'm not suggesting that it's absolutely bad what's happening to him/her. I know that's very interesting, especially if you never before had an experience as that. I'm only advicing him/her to be on the cautious side. I know for experience how easy it is to let yourself go given the fascination of the thing, till one day you drive your car and don't know if you really invested someone or not. And what's worse is that while coming this far was easy, rebulding the circle it's very difficult, for various motives.

Selea.

Selea.....
Initially, this experience really frightened me.....I didn't ask or request it to happen! And, I still don't know exactly why it's happened. Maybe I abused my psychic abilities in another life time and this is the "penance" or karma, if you will, that I need to pay! I do know that I can't shut it down....I've tried and nothing really works! Sometimes I wish that I could just close my eyes and see just blackness again....there are disadvantages to this ability and there is an overload factor that occurs as well. I don't know if I'm "mingling the planes" or realms and yes, sometimes it's like leaving the front door open and anybody can walk in! I'm a very spiritual person and I usually ask God(Creator of all that is) and my higher self to guide me and so far, I've been ok! However, would I wish this for someone else who is much less mentally or emotionally stable......no way! It took me awhile to get to the point of handling this and I no longer live in fear of the experience or the beings! They understand my thoughts....when I tell them that I have to sleep and to leave me be....they will! It has been a difficult road....but the advantages have been a greater understanding of myself and others and the many different realms  that there are to exist in. My "fascination" with this was short lived and I've mainly incorporated it into my life, but caution is my guidepost and I would advise anyone else the same in this same situation.
Since I initially created this posting, I've run into several people, who have had similar experiences and no one is sure why they are experiencing this phenomenon at this time, although many have their own theories as to why.....some believe that the "Shift of Ages" i.e. dimensional shift is responsible and there is a "bleed-thru" from one dimension to another and granted, that is possible. Do I know for sure.......no! Some believe that it's a "wake-up" call if you will! In other words, wake up from the forgetful sleep that we are born into in each life time and wake up to the fact that we are multi-dimensional beings experiencing a physical existence......which I believe is very possible! Why me and not you or someone else? Don't know.....I'm a pretty regular person with many failings that I've tried to fix. I'm a much better person today than I've ever been before, but that doesn't explain....why me! 
I appreciate your cautionary advise and I do follow that at all times, so thank you for response!
Take care.....     

[Annika]

Hey, Annika!

My heart started racing, when I read your posts! You should definately check out this guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/dero7
He talks about the exact same stuff you describe; the beings, touching and all those yes and no questions, and what it all means.

I think this just made me a believer. Thank you.

Hey Loru....
Thank you for responding and the link you provided to one of my brethren......he's a little bit more energized than I am......maybe too much coffee! But, he does seem to be experiencing something similar to my experiences. Some people believe me when I tell them about my experiences and others don't and I don't take offense to the disbelievers...I think if I hadn't experienced it myself, I would have not believed someone else telling me about this!
I think that most of the people who are sharing this experience did not ask or request it.....but I think that what we all have in common is a desire to ascend or transcend this physical existence that we're all participating in, but I don't think that the experience that we're living thru is necessary to ascend, but any fears will surely be gotten rid of...whatever they may be! Maybe this advanced training is only for those that really need it.....those who were working in a deficit! Certainly this experience has made me spiritually, mentally & emotionally stronger....I now,  know who I am and accept who I am!
Thanks again for the link.....
Take care.....

[bluvisnu]

You will always have the choice between fear and love.
There is nothing to fear about these experiences as it is a part of our evolution and as we are immortals.
Love opens the doors of our consciousness to grow wider until we become the whole creation.
Fear is made from ignorance and love from divine light.

[Annika]

You will always have the choice between fear and love.
There is nothing to fear about these experiences as it is a part of our evolution and as we are immortals.
Love opens the doors of our consciousness to grow wider until we become the whole creation.
Fear is made from ignorance and love from divine light.

Hi again....
Initially, for the first 2 months, I was in fear......but that was a year ago and in the time that's transpired since then, I've learned to relax and view it differently! I am cautious, but I don't fear the beings that exist in the astral, if that is indeed the realm I'm viewing! I'm not in their control and I'm not trying to control them, but I think that the paradigms are changing.
As for my meditations, I've always viewed images and people participating in a variety of different activities and I do believe that some of those images are personally relevant to me, whether they are past lives or simultaneous lives.
My soul is eternal and has been to many different places in it's growth process and will continue!
I am always grateful for different perspectives as they usually opens doors of thought or knowledge.
Thank you for all of your responses....
Take care

[personalreality]

there's no problem with being psychically active all the time.

you just need to learn to work with it.

learn to filter it and control it.