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Amorda

Currently I have been trying to expand my astral awareness by attempting to transit from the RTZ to another location. I have willed myself, jumped up high into the sky, asked for help from my guide...but I have not succeeded for some reason. I am going through a transition in my waking life right now. Lots of moving pieces; I just moved away from my parents and got a new full time job so perhaps that is causing my road block? The closest I have ever gotten to coming out of the RTZ as I know it is seeing pure bright white light. Then I saw what looked like an ancient Chinese lion character. And after that, it fell away. Hm.

I would love thoughts and any helpful hints that can be provided. I'm thinking my uncertainty while being awake is impeding my progress.

Xanth

When you say you can't transition from the "RTZ" to another location... what do you mean exactly and how to you recognize that you're in the "RTZ"?

I'll be upfront, I'm not a big believer in what people call the "RTZ".

Is it the RTZ to you because it's a familiar place?  Or someplace that just "looks" Earthly?  Or some other reason?

Amorda

Quote from: Xanth on April 24, 2014, 21:16:46
When you say you can't transition from the "RTZ" to another location... what do you mean exactly and how to you recognize that you're in the "RTZ"?

I'll be upfront, I'm not a big believer in what people call the "RTZ".

Is it the RTZ to you because it's a familiar place?  Or someplace that just "looks" Earthly?  Or some other reason?

Hi Xanth.

I'll try and explain as best I can. This is a place i have gone to since an early age but just recently became aware that its very different. I know I'm in between the dream world and the physical because of what I experience before I arrive. For example, a buzzy energy in the body, high pitch tones, strange orchestral music. To me...my version of the RTZ is this: It looks and feels as close to the physical as you can get. Sometimes I can't even tell the difference until I perform reality checks. However, dream like qualities still apply and I can go through walls and do as I wish.... Except for some reason I can't leave. I wish to go to this scene I have written in my dream journal. It is a simple beach. Does this help?

Lionheart

 Find out the reason why you are going where you are first. Then you will find that you are "free" to travel elsewhere.

I see the teachings of the NPR (Non Physical Realms/Reality) being the same as schools here per say. You do indeed graduate to the next level. But only after you have learned the purpose of the current one you are in.

Amorda

Quote from: Lionheart on April 24, 2014, 21:44:22
Find out the reason why you are going where you are first. Then you will find that you are "free" to travel elsewhere.

I see the teachings of the NPR (Non Physical Realms/Reality) being the same as schools here per say. You do indeed graduate to the next level. But only after you have learned the purpose of the current one you are in.

How does one figure out why they are there? I usually try and explore as soon as I can. I keep myself in the experience for as long as possible by spinning from time to time.

AAAAAAAA

Quote from: Amorda on April 24, 2014, 22:07:43
How does one figure out why they are there? I usually try and explore as soon as I can. I keep myself in the experience for as long as possible by spinning from time to time.

How long do you plan on relying on others? Don't get me wrong, it's a great thing that you are asking questions. But the only one who can answer the question above is you. There are people who will be able to guide you through and get you started, but you have to do the rest.

Amorda

Quote from: AAAAAAAA on April 24, 2014, 22:09:44
How long do you plan on relying on others? Don't get me wrong, it's a great thing that you are asking questions. But the only one who can answer the question above is you. There are people who will be able to guide you through and get you started, but you have to do the rest.

I'm not relying on others as you put it. I have been having this issue for some time now and am looking for feedback. If it was as simple as me knowing the answer, I would have made progress by now in some way. Don't be so quick to judge another's situation.

Lionheart

Quote from: Amorda on April 24, 2014, 22:07:43
How does one figure out why they are there? I usually try and explore as soon as I can. I keep myself in the experience for as long as possible by spinning from time to time.
Ask while you are there and await your answer. Don't be surprised though if the answer comes in the form of a thought or feeling though. Many times it can be a quest or adventure as well. Yes and No answers are very hard to come by there!  :|

Amorda

Quote from: Lionheart on April 24, 2014, 22:18:14
Ask while you are there and await your answer. Don't be surprised though if the answer comes in the form of a thought or feeling though. Many times it can be a quest or adventure as well. Yes and No answers are very hard to come by there!  :|

Thats the thing. I feel like a have asked that over an over. Also I have asked to go to another location. But for some reason the answers aren't apparent. I'll keep at it. Thanks Lionheart!

Lionheart

Quote from: Amorda on April 24, 2014, 22:20:14
Thats the thing. I feel like a have asked that over an over. Also I have asked to go to another location. But for some reason the answers aren't apparent. I'll keep at it. Thanks Lionheart!
Have you explored this area to see what is there to be found? Many times, that's what "jump starts" my quests and adventures.

I go to my tranquil beach scene and begin to explore it. I usually find something out of place or a new "guest" that leads me on my journey or to my new destination.

Szaxx

I hope you settle in your new lifestyle.
Any worries are not going to help you so I hope everything is working well and you get all the support you need from family and friends.
My daughters tried this and came home, they're not moving out again. When I moved out in the 80's it was the best thing for projecting, it took a month to get into the swing of things.
Have you demanded to be shown what you need to see or do to progress further. It may work, there's something missing or not experienced if you're hitting walls. Perhaps getting to the 3D blackness and demanding the above. This usually gives the desired results and the experience obtained shows you what is required.
Have a strong desire to progress in your mind too. This intent should start you furthering your development.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

AAAAAAAA

Quote from: Amorda on April 24, 2014, 22:16:09
I'm not relying on others as you put it. I have been having this issue for some time now and am looking for feedback. If it was as simple as me knowing the answer, I would have made progress by now in some way. Don't be so quick to judge another's situation.

It really IS that simple. You are smarter, and know more things than you think you do.