FOCUS 12 and 15!!!!!!!!!!

[NickJW]

What is the difference? I have asked this many times and get a straight answer.

[Ben K]

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[DiViNE]

hahaha Ben K, that gave me a good laugh


As for your question NickJW, no idea ;/

[NickJW]

lol Ben...
Seriously, there must be a difference or else why would Monroe have clasified them.

[Cereal-N-Milk]

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lol. I think the difference would be a deeper trace/vibes?

[Stevo]

The only difference is what you make it. There simply a name given to a generic and unrestricted point of conciousness. You should have no concern over them.

[Ybom]

What is the difference? I have asked this many times and get a straight answer.

Extra exclamations generally won't help you come any closer to an answer either.

Anyways, the basis of your research on the difference between these two focus levels should be Monroe's work, or websites dedicated to promoting his work. Most of the websites that sell hemi-sync products give you this quote

...In Wave V, you will be reacquainted with Focus 12, the state of expanded awareness.  You will then have the opportunity to enhance your intuitive abilities with two additional Focus 12 exercises.  These exercises will help you connect to the feeling or feelings associated with an intuitive knowing.  They can assist you in identifying and overcoming limiting beliefs or obstacles which may prevent you from knowing and trusting your intuitive self.

Focus 12 is an ideal springboard for exploring higher states of consciousness.  From this now familiar state, you will be introduced to Focus 15, the "no time" state - the state of simply being.  Hemi-Sync signals will assist you as you expand your consciousness far beyond the limitations of your five physical senses and connect with the source of your intuition.  Following your introduction, you will have the opportunity to experience Focus 15 as a powerful state of creation and manifestation before moving on to the culmination of Wave V, a free flow Focus 15 exercise.  This free flow experience will provide you with an ideal inner landscape for further exploration of this extraordinary state...

-Wave V Gateway Series Documentation