This method works very well. In fact, after a couple of nights of non-success while trying to project at night, I tried this and projected at least 4 times in a row that day.
[Method Outline & Over View]
1. You are going to want to perform your regular AP routine at night anyways, even if it doesn't work. It's good practice regardless, and will keep the idea of APing fresh in your mind.
2. This method is to be done in the hypnopompic stage. This is the stage where you are half-asleep after you've woken up. Try setting your alarm a few hours earlier than normal. When it goes off, set it back the way it needs to go (if you will still need the alarm to wake up for work/school/etc).
3. After waking up, go do something mundane for a little while so that you can kick your brain back into logic-mode. Go have a drink of water, a cigarette, whatever, take a leak.
4. Use that time that you have to breif yourself. APing should have an objective of some sort, come up with an objective, develop a short protocol on how you will handle any situations that could surprise you.
5. Get back into bed and do your AP procedure as normal. Mind Awake/Body asleep will happen quickly because your body will naturally want to get back to sleep. This makes it very easy.
6. Vibrations should come very quickly. Infact they may be very-very intense. This could startle you but it's okay.
7. You might feel like the vibrations are causing you to shift planes and you should become sort of numb yet very vibratory.
8. Try one of the exiting techniques, roll out, rope, getting up...
I was able to project in under a minute using this technique. It may surprise you that it can be that simple. It may or may not work for you, but for those that have been trying other night-time methods may have better success with this.
I usually try to project to some place I find safe/serene. Sometimes I just pop out in my room. The first thing you want to do is gather your thoughts, and breif yourself: Find out what you are going to do, figure out how you will handle certain situations good/bad, etc... popping out almost feels like waking up. Just like you wake up "here" and feel a little disoriented, it's the same when you wake up "there".
It's very easy to slip into alice in wonderland mode and thus "fall asleep" while out of your body, reverting the experience to a non or half-lucid dream.
I try to sing a song that I know all the words too, or just keep thinking about the immediate surroundings and imagine that you're holding them together somehow. Either way, you will have to focus on something that requires conscious thought.
I keep trying this method without getting out of bed and I hover on and on in the hypnopompic state. Sometimes I can even watch planes and ships flying by and try to latch on but can not. I hear voices talk and repeat the words to myself and the sentences allot of times do not make sense. I have WILD a few times but it seems like POT LUCK for me. I seem to have to grab the image and ride it in like a person surfing but do not seem able to. Many times when this occurs I simply fall asleep and dream or have a partial projection where I get to the ceiling several times or roll out of bed. This get frustrating sometimes as I feel I'm so close to truly being a successful projector but just keep missing the bus. Maybe because I can not pronounce the word hypnopomic is why I can't do it, heck I can hardly spell it. Ha.
I wouldn't recommend the 'take a smoke' part, for health reasons, I can understand your logic though.
I've read many places that its a good idea to verbally desribe everything you see and do while you're 'out' in order to help impress the memories into your mind, and to help you keep focused so that your experience doesn't revert to a dream.
-Matt
Thanks for the advice.
I have also had some success with this method over the last few years, but i have not actively practiced it for some time.
However, i am planning to begin again using this technique.
Peace,
J
I would reccomend this one. This looks like a post I put up @ Astralforum - almost verbatim...lol. Many people are finding this the easiest for them. Good. :)
:)
So anyone had any luck using this method? 8)
Alright matt.
Ive tried this method, but i have problems getting back to sleep. I get up, have a 1/2 hr on the PS2, but i struggle to get back tp sleep again.
How long do you stay awake for and what sort of stuff do you do?
lmao fost, don't play the Ps2 you tit :wink:
Especially not for half an hour you'd practically be fully awake at this stage.. plus i think your mind would be kinda' off subject playing a game n' all, i like to keep AP fresh in my mind before i try this.
Hmm.. AH.. something that helped me after i started experimenting with this hypnopompic AP method, I drink half a pint of water before i set my alarm to wake me up after 4-5 hours of solid sleep.
*Alarm goes off*
Alright, so i get up, i try and avoid any kind of bright light, i walk straight to the downstairs toilet.. (whilst constantly thinking about what i'm about to do, ap, ect)
I then walk straight back up, and climb in to bed, the relief of urinating helps induce relaxation with me, anyway, i keep still, very still, i'll sometimes get an itch.. (DON'T ITCH.. just keep still, and relax).
(so don't spend any longer than 5 or so mins up, it doesn't take much to awaken completely)
As you slip further and further into relaxation, you should basically start to feel your body going to sleep, i always notice my arms getting heavy, VERY heavy.. then i'll start to feel this ripple effect kinda' thing.. almost as if my hand/arm is resting on a strong sea-current, after this i sometimes get vibrations (I don't always) hmm..it's very easy to fall into a deep sleep right about this time.. so make sure your mind's alert, but not hung up and stressing over this, like want it, but don't WANT it.. you know what i mean?
Good luck man.
Cheers mate, il give he PS2 a miss and try some water, il let u know how it goes
lol, yeah, i look forward to hearing! 8)
me 2! I want to do this method but Im working on MASTERING ASTRAL PROJECTION book and barly on day 1 , so Will have to waite to try this technique :( <sniff> lol but its definatly going on my favorites!
Matt.
Tried it last nite, but to no avail. For some reason i was already awake before my alarm went off!!
Anyway, gave it a go. Got up, went 2 the toilet, came back to bed. Altough i couldnt get back to sleep, my body did feel heavy v.quickly, so i guess thats progress.
Il keep tryin.
BTW out of curiosity, whats your sleep cycle i.e when do you go to bed, set your alarm (for obes) and get up?
Yea keep trying i heard it takes couple of days before it happens.
Good luck
Ah fost man, The whole point is to attempt this method in the stage where you're half-asleep after you've just woken up. It's not at all unusual for what happened with you to happen though, as you may or may not know you've got a 'biological' clock. = )
But yep, like you stated, your body did get heavy quite quickly, so imagine how effective this is gonna' be once you actually do this in the correct mind state!
Oh and you asked about my sleeping routine, well it usually goes like this.
I'll go to bed at 11pm, and get up at 3am.
Your immediate reaction would be to quickly switch off the alarm and go straight to sleep, FIGHT THAT URGE and walk straight out your bedroom door! 8)
Right on matt. Ill let you know how it goes for me!
~Z?~
Any luck guys?
Not yet man. I had a really bad nights sleep last night for some reason? However, the night before, i had a dream that i APed, which was pretty cool. I know persistance is the key, so im just gonna try it every bloody morning until i get my butt in the astral. :D
Matt, can i ask, do you manage to AP every morning using this technique?
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Hi, Mattoid!
It would be pleasure if everybody could be HERE from astralforum.
I am glad to see you here.
Oh hey man, long time no talk, how the hell are you? and your bike, lmao.
8)
Thanx, I'm fine. My bike has been repaired.
But more in PM, because we'll be banned out from here :)
By the way, I've red this method in Don deGracia's book.
Actually, he says that APing is much more successful if it's been practiced before waking up, not before sleeping.
That was the main point for me.
this method has worked on me twice to get into the trance state a while back when i first started practicing AP! it is a very effective technique on my opinion.
Did you make any progress fost? :?
what exactly is the hypnopompic state???
it's when you wake up and are half asleep
what exactly is the hypnopompic state????
Oh my goodness, I tried this method, and got vibrations for the first time ever! I've never actually made it to the vibrational bit before, so I was mighty excited! I ended up falling asleep, which was really too bad, but I definitely made progress. I'm totally trying again tonight!
Mattoid, great technique. I have been practicing this somewhat prior to reading this post, funny I found this.
What's great about this technique is how fast you can get to mind awake, body asleep. It takes me anywhere from 3 to 10 minutes. Usually, if I try while I'm fully awake, it can take 45 minutes or more!
The first time, I had a brief projection doing this about 3 months ago. I had gotten up in the middle to go to the bathroom, laid down and thought I'd try to project and it happened in about 10 minutes. So, I've been trying it every once in awhile, and have gotten to states I've read about but never experienced. About 2 weeks ago, I had one where I phased into an environment. I've never been able to do that before. I began having the random imagery thing, then the randomness formed a office with lots of cubicles. It was dark, like the office was closed and at night and I started hearing lots of voices. I knew this was hypno audio, but was definitely not a dream. It was too real to be a dream, it was like I was there. The voices I could physically hear (though I really couldn't). Hard to explain, but definitely, definitely was not a lucid dream.
Anyway, good post! :!:
I had absoloutly no progress what-so-ever last night, so i'm going to give this method another try. Me and few of the old 'AstralForums' put this one together,
I'll let you know how it goes in the morning.
I did this method on accident and the vibrations were INTENSE. like it really did scare me so i stopped. Haha.
i'll be trying again tonight.
pace.