Underwater - projections into future? - 2012

[phitau]

Well I've been reading about peoples' stories on here and other websites. Some say they hear talks of other entities talking about 2012 and 2013 and that they are underwater in their projection.

I have been reading a lot about 2012 for a while now, and I am to think these people are projecting into Earth's future. How's that make sense? Ever hear about the great flood? I read that we'll go through many natural disasters in the near future--it's already happening now--and we'll all go through a dimensional shift.

No people + underwater? What do you think?

I'm sorry I cannot provide links to these stories. This idea just randomly flashed in my head from the stories I read a while ago. Has anyone else been experiencing anything that may relate to 2012?

[slipknot0129]

wheres the safest place to be when this happens? in a big city or in a small town in the middle of nowhere?

[SnakeDoctor]

right at home....



still have doubts anything is gonna happen


it'd be exciting if something did...but yeah...if the ice caps did melt, it wouldn't be enough to kill EVERYONE. if we do get flooded from that, my idea(not a scientist) would be to stay away from the ocean...but thats just me.

[phitau]

I'm one town over from a bay in New Jersey. Yeah, right at home is definitely safe--kidding. My family doesn't believe anything bad is going to happen, and they refuse to move elsewhere. Anyway, it's estimated by scientists a huge asteroid hits earth every hundred years or so. Also, even greater catastrophes occur every thousand years. We're pretty much due on both cases. This is proven by history.

I'm 20 years old, and I can't leave my family behind. Their fate is my fate.

[biomechanic]

in 2012, nothing is going to happen.

sorry to disapoint y'all, but it isnt.

id say its just a hunch, but its not, i just know. dont ask me how i know, i just do.

[jc87]

in 2012, nothing is going to happen.

sorry to disapoint y'all, but it isnt.

id say its just a hunch, but its not, i just know. dont ask me how i know, i just do.

Have you ever astral projected

[aptryer]

Oh if there is a huge flood, then it sucks for me, i live on Long Island....

But i don't think there will be anything...

If anything, it because everyone is going to be killing/looting/raping because they think the world is going to end.

[d-naves18045]

I hear the the Earth's pole are going to shift and is going to some how going to redistribute the water.
where I live will be under water.

[CFTraveler]

I hear the the Earth's pole are going to shift and is going to some how going to redistribute the water.
where I live will be under water.

The scientifically predicted pole shift has nothing to do with geography, it has to do with magnetics.  Nothing would move, compasses would just have to be relabeled.

[Vice]

 The rising sun on December 21st, 2012 will align itself directly with the center of the galaxy. This wobbling of Earth's axis changes our orientation to galactic center and this opens the way for the beginning of a new world age, a re-birth into an entirely new participation in the greater whole. This 2012 solar galactic alignment offers all of humanity the opportunity to assimilate the complete understanding of returning to galactic center. It will augur the complete understanding of the ascent and decent of our higher minds and spiritual understanding.

This momentous end cycle moment will create a never before experienced spiritual and metaphysical phenomenon, a bridge to galactic center. This moment in our history will create a new re-birth as a result of the churning of the Milky Way ocean.

[CFTraveler]

The rising sun on December 21st, 2012 will align itself directly with the center of the galaxy. This wobbling of Earth's axis changes our orientation to galactic center

The rising sun?  Do you mean the way it looks from here?  How will it align with the center?  I have read so many versions of this I'm still not sure what they mean by this.  You mean the center in a horizontal plane, or just how it looks from the earth?

[Vice]

This is how i perceived this phenomenon:  Obviously there is a strong gravitational pull in our galactic center.  In 2012 the sun will block the Earth from the center sort of like an eclipse  This block will throw off the orientation of the Earth's axis. (The earth rotates on its axis).  This will completely reverse Earth's magnetic field causing great catastrophes.  However the earth will become almost supercharged with electromagnetic activity, which will heighten mankind spiritually. 

Do not take my word on these events actually happening, but if it does the world will change completely.

[Upheval]

It seems we get over one obstical and another appears.  This reminds me of the whole Y2K thing.  Is it possible, sure.  Am I going to move to avoid, nope.  We are just cattle if something that large takes place.  So the only thing we can do is spend our last moments with love ones and hope for the best.

[CFTraveler]

This is how i perceived this phenomenon:  Obviously there is a strong gravitational pull in our galactic center.  In 2012 the sun will block the Earth from the center sort of like an eclipse  This block will throw off the orientation of the Earth's axis. (The earth rotates on its axis).  This will completely reverse Earth's magnetic field causing great catastrophes.  However the earth will become almost supercharged with electromagnetic activity, which will heighten mankind spiritually. 

Do not take my word on these events actually happening, but if it does the world will change completely.

An object getting in the way of gravitational pull does not affect it, it only adds to it, if it's close enough.  It's not.
If there is a reversal of the magnetic field (this happens from time to time and has been documented) a magnetic pole reversal will not affect the physical poles, or the earth's axis.  For the earth's axis to be affected something closer (probably as close as the moon, give or take a few miles, and large enough) would have to disrupt our field.
  If someone wanted to destroy the earth via the sun, a well-placed sunspot could fry the earth's atmosphere to the point of letting all kinds of radiation in.  But galactic convergences won't do it.

[kurai kokoro]

i'm going to have to disagree with you a little on that one cftraveler, i think the first thing that will happin is the galactic alignment yes, but because of this other planets, stars, comets, and so forth will too be "merging" so to speak with the galactic center, some may mention a super black hole and such and truth of that is yes they exist, and if you would like to know what a super black hole is it's a galactic rift, these galactic rifts could indeed lead to either another deminsion, or another galixy, however this is just one of many theories that our limited minds can ever understand. we will only know when it happins.

[CFTraveler]

i'm going to have to disagree with you a little on that one cftraveler, i think the first thing that will happin is the galactic alignment yes, but because of this other planets, stars, comets, and so forth will too be "merging" so to speak with the galactic center, some may mention a super black hole and such and truth of that is yes they exist, and if you would like to know what a super black hole is it's a galactic rift,

Sources, please?
Or let me put it differently- Why would a galactic alignment cause other planets (that are not already inline) to merge with a black hole that is already there?

If I have a planet next to me and it pulls, let's say 20 units of gravity (I'm obviously making this up) and there's a black hole 30 parsecs away from me- what gravitational difference can the planet make to me if it becomes aligned in any way (there are infinite ways to be in-line with any object) with the black hole?  The fact that the planet is now on angle a or b is not going to add or subtract to whatever gravitational pull at me, if I'm far enough for me.
And we do know that black holes are not eternal, they do not swallow things indefinitely, because they emit certain types of radiation, so that there is a time limit to how much they can swallow.
Sure, if I'm close enough to the black hole in terms of it's lifetime it'll eventually suck me in- but if I'm far enough from it, the time it takes to get to the region of space where I'm at may be too much to it's sucking ability, given that it does have a lifetime.  If the planet that was to my left is now to my right is also far enough from it, it doesn't make any gravitational difference to it's effect on me, or my mass probably won't affect it in terms of vulnerability to it being sucked in.
Now, if we're both close enough to be sucked, in terms of it's original power and the time it has to get me, where planet a or b are in terms of what we call 'alignment' won't really make much difference, if any.

As to super-black holes, my understanding of them is that they start out as massive stars, so massive that they suck everything around them to begin with.  The question is, why is our black hole going to become a super-black hole according how planets line up with it from where we're looking? 

I have said before that ideologically, I have no problem accepting that there is some sort of 'awakening' happening, and that there may be forces in the universe at play to make it happen.  I also have no problem believing that the universe is a very violent place and there is ample evidence to point out that prior lifeforms on earth have become extinct because of such violence, such as meteor showers, possible visits by protoplanets, and other manner of large-scale destruction, and that chances are that it's going to happen again- at any time.

But what I don't understand is why some organizations have made it their career  taking science and twisting it to make it seem that some horrible disaster is about to happen, at a predetermined time of their choosing, to suit ideological or religious paradigms, and do it by ignoring known physical laws.

[Vice]

I do agree with many skeptics that the world will not end in 2012 nor will mankind, but I do believe it will bring an end to the world figuratively as we know it.

[SnakeDoctor]

i side with CF here

[kurai kokoro]

oh just causing disbelief in certain theories so that others could think further outside the box, it's simply through disbelief the truth could be reviled for ~wisdom begins in wonder~ socrates

BTW ever heard of a galaxy devouring other galaxies? if not then just so you know it's happining know, so scientist believe, i think that when this is done then our planet will then align but that still wouldn't fit the Mayan or Nostradamus predictions would it? i mean as we both know how stars work and all (earlier i was just causing disbelief for a more perspective look.) that would take at least another Melina or so to complete would it not? i think it would. so knowing this we could only assume that the 2012 thing is the beginning date, not the end.

~the presant becomes the future the the future becomes the past and the past becomes the presant. a true cycle for everything an action and reaction too has cycle.~ if a star goes nova then it can be reborn, if a star turns black and devourers it could indeed be relit into a star, so if a galaxy expands, it too can contract. if the universe expands it to can contract with the galaxies re-merging. mirai-wo zurto saki dayo. translation: the future is before us.
one of many truthes is this, somethings expand, others contract, things live and then die and when things die it brings new life, "space the final frontier" this means space is the last thing we must learn from, untell our asenction "to explore strange new worlds to seek out new life and new civilizations." to spread throughout the universe discovering our otherselves while living out there. "to boldly go where no man has gone before." to be brave throughout our quest of learning without faulter weather it's dangerous or not. "live long and prosper, peace and long life." exactly what it means, gene rodenberry was a true genius and the proof is incoded within startrek.

and here is a poem if anyone wants to read it.
I wake up to a world of darkness and falling rain hits my face.
standing,to see not but a fire of a burning village.
in wonder whats happining. i'm cunfused and
shocked that my home is finaly gone. but my home isn't relly gone.
it just seems so natral that this would happin and i'm uncertain as to what i
should do. it's like i'm frozen but it's so hot in the middle of this fire.
the rain still falls hoping to tame the flame. but the fire still burns.
it's resistant and merciless. i cannot stop it. i am traped and lonely.
everyones dead. and soon i will be to. but i don't want to die like this.
this day was such a marvel but now it seems so insignificet to even try
living on. my house burnt down and my passion for art is
extinquished. i'm unsure what i will do. but now it doesn't matter. i watch in horror as i
see not a living thing is left to see. while the fire burns my body
mind soul and heart. i am finaly going to rest.
but i can't fall asleep not just yet. it feels so good though i am in pain. if i keep this pleasure of the pain i'm reciving then i will surly die.
i fall to the ground and finaly see that my life even if i'm dead will continue through others that come this way. and i am happy for only that. and shed not of a tear, but of a smile.

[Apollon]

I really don't know what to believe anymore about 2012.
There are so many things that are being said all the time.

There is also an Orthodox priest here (I'm in Greece) that has written a book about it.... he is certain that this (2012) is the year that the antichrist will make his first appearance on earth as he's already been born in 1982 and will rule the whole world for 3.5 years. After that the second coming will happen and christ will win and rule the world for 7 years. Finally after that the world will come to an end and eternal life will commence. He sais he came up to this conclusion after intense study of the holy scriptures and St John's reveration.

I mean, there are SO many different things being said all the time. I believe nothing will happen in the end.

[kurai kokoro]

I really don't know what to believe anymore about 2012.
There are so many things that are being said all the time.

There is also an Orthodox priest here (I'm in Greece) that has written a book about it.... he is certain that this (2012) is the year that the antichrist will make his first appearance on earth as he's already been born in 1982 and will rule the whole world for 3.5 years. After that the second coming will happen and christ will win and rule the world for 7 years. Finally after that the world will come to an end and eternal life will commence. He sais he came up to this conclusion after intense study of the holy scriptures and St John's reveration.
I mean, there are SO many different things being said all the time. I believe nothing will happen in the end.

it also says in the bible that after the end then there would be a new heaven and a new earth.
also there could be many different theories, many different beliefs, many so called truths that people can tell you, the only thing you should believe is that were ever the truth is you should find it withen yourself.

[silentfox]

hmm i was reading this and some one said pole shifts might occur this brought to mind the theory that sense humans have their own magnetic field a dramatic shift in magnetisum could cause brain damage... just a thought.

besides wouldnt the earths core have to stop rotating and reverse to switch polarity??/

if you ask me im not worried if it happenes it does if it doesnt then nice to know i didnt lose any sleep over it
people should stop worrying about the future and live in the now

cheers all   

[CFTraveler]

hmm i was reading this and some one said pole shifts might occur this brought to mind the theory that sense humans have their own magnetic field a dramatic shift in magnetisum could cause brain damage... just a thought.

Why would a magnetic shift cause brain damage?  The em field in the body is not directional in the same way the whole earth's em field is.  Plus the earth's magnetic field changes all the time, and we don't even notice.  The animals that use em fields to travel (flock animals, like birds and bees) get confused when it's time to migrate, but that has nothing to do with brain function.

besides wouldnt the earths core have to stop rotating and reverse to switch polarity??/

It could change phases (the direction in which it's rotating).  I'm pretty sure it already does this.

if you ask me im not worried if it happenes it does if it doesnt then nice to know i didnt lose any sleep over it
people should stop worrying about the future and live in the now

cheers all   

I agree.

[silentfox]

lol thanks for correcting me now i know a little bit more about the world then i did XD

now that i think abotu it that stuff completely slipped my mind