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vinny73

I got out For the first time the other night when i "attempted" as i usually do to astral project... for the first time in about a year. I visualized for about three minutes that i was breathing in a white light through my whole body and absorbing and storing it. Then got into a trance really quickly and even as i thought about the heavy floaty feeling it didn't slip away like it usually does. I soon began too use the rope technique and the more i pulled the faster i felt like i was rising until i heard a loud meow that seemed to come from above me and i was pulled out and slowly floated up out of my body and to the edge of my bed it was dark but i could still see a little after i focused on not being blind. I didn't see a cat or anything but i guess it was a voice type of thing from being in a trance. It was a little hard to move around and i went from my bedroom to my living room with ease i went through my rooms door but when i tried to leave my house i felt like i was either being held back or i was stuck.... it frustrated me and i thought about my room and was back above my body. I tried to go up through the ceiling but again could not leave my house. I decided that that was a good enough first trip and decided to come back to my body to find out what i was doing wrong to not be able to leave my house but couldn't really find anything about the problems i was having in the astral projecting books i have. I heard that after your fist successful projection its easier to do it the following times. And i haven't been able to leave my body since that night.

Can anyone tell me possible reasons i might not have been able to leave my house and also possible reasons that i couldn't pass through my front door or my ceiling but was easily able to get through my bedroom door. Also its been about a week since it happened but every day since Ive been spending most of my time trying to get out again but i just cant get to a trance and cant get the falling feeling to start and not sure why it isn't easier now after doing it already...I'm wondering maybe if i just got lucky. Also i heard that the younger you are the harder it is to leave something to do with the body still having a tight hold on the astral body and weakening as we get older...is that true?

~Nolan~

CFTraveler

Quote from: vinny73 on November 20, 2007, 11:49:39
I got out For the first time the other night when i "attempted" as i usually do to astral project... for the first time in about a year. I visualized for about three minutes that i was breathing in a white light through my whole body and absorbing and storing it. Then got into a trance really quickly and even as i thought about the heavy floaty feeling it didn't slip away like it usually does. I soon began too use the rope technique and the more i pulled the faster i felt like i was rising until i heard a loud meow that seemed to come from above me and i was pulled out and slowly floated up out of my body and to the edge of my bed it was dark but i could still see a little after i focused on not being blind. I didn't see a cat or anything but i guess it was a voice type of thing from being in a trance. It was a little hard to move around and i went from my bedroom to my living room with ease i went through my rooms door but when i tried to leave my house i felt like i was either being held back or i was stuck.... it frustrated me and i thought about my room and was back above my body. I tried to go up through the ceiling but again could not leave my house. I decided that that was a good enough first trip and decided to come back to my body to find out what i was doing wrong to not be able to leave my house but couldn't really find anything about the problems i was having in the astral projecting books i have. I heard that after your fist successful projection its easier to do it the following times. And i haven't been able to leave my body since that night.
Chances are you 'ran out of energy'.  It happens, especially if it's your very first projection.  The excitement and wonder and all that keeps you going but at some point your lucidity goes out the window (pardon the pun), and it either turns into a dream or you lose consciousness altogether. 

QuoteCan anyone tell me possible reasons i might not have been able to leave my house and also possible reasons that i couldn't pass through my front door or my ceiling but was easily able to get through my bedroom door.
Lack of energy would be my first guess.  Also, if it turned into a dream it got away from you, so you started to lose your mobile abilities.
QuoteAlso its been about a week since it happened but every day since Ive been spending most of my time trying to get out again but i just cant get to a trance and cant get the falling feeling to start
From your post I'm getting a feeling of stress and frustration- you need to relax more and try to 'not try' for a few days and then try again.  It can take a while for your body, mind and everything in-between to recuperate after a projection, and if it's the first one, lots of resources went into it, so you have to give yourself some time off.  So I'm not surprised that the problem is you can't trance, because it sounds like you're overstressed.

Quoteand not sure why it isn't easier now after doing it already...I'm wondering maybe if i just got lucky. Also i heard that the younger you are the harder it is to leave something to do with the body still having a tight hold on the astral body and weakening as we get older...is that true?

~Nolan~
Frankly, I don't think that's true.  When I was younger I had all kinds of interesting experiences without even trying.  Although I still do, they are not as 'natural' as they were when I was young.  The energy of being young is good.
I do believe it does get easier after you've done it once, because you just got rid of the belief that 'you can't', that 'it can't be done', or the fear of dying some prospective projectors have- but it doesn't mean that now you're primed to go every time you do it.
If you follow a routine and train yourself to follow it, it gives your mind a blueprint to follow, and it becomes a little more natural to do it aware, but it doesn't mean you can program yourself like a computer to get specific results.  The truth is that for some people it takes a lot of energy and discipline, for others it takes the ability to trance aware and for others the ability to tell when they're 'ready to go'.  For the phasers, the ability to 'trance and see and stay there' is necessary- in other words, it all takes resources, so it all takes some sort of time and patience to come together.
Having said what I said about 'routine', it would be remiss of me to say that one routine is the best- I often change procedures when the one I used before doesn't work any more- so even though experience helps, experimentation and evolution never ever stops.

vinny73

thanks for the advice i think ill take it and not try for a couple days

Awakened_Mind

Quote from: vinny73 on November 20, 2007, 11:49:39
Also i heard that the younger you are the harder it is to leave something to do with the body still having a tight hold on the astral body and weakening as we get older...is that true?

There's a lot of unwarranted speculation on the 'difficulty' of projection when you're younger and sometimes physically ill. I wouldn't be overly concerned with them. My first projection was spontaneous. I had no knowledge of the world of astral projection, I'd never even heard of it. I was 17 when this happened.

When talking in terms of difficulty, we're really just speaking of the individuals perception of the work they need to do to achieve something successfully. Sometimes you make mistakes and you need to go back and reexamine what you've done to find what you must alter on your next attempt. When we say "It gets easier with time", we're really talking in terms learning from your mistakes and growing for the next attempt, not so much a linear timeline of projection difficulty. I've never heard of a case where someone with complete determination and hard work has taken a decade to have a conscious OBE.  In the initial stages there's a lot of problems with frustration. These are normal.

In relation to your concerns with your mobility while you are projecting,  I'd echo what CFTraveler said. It could be a matter of energy, it could be a matter of 'silver cord'. I don't believe in this personally but it might be an alternative.

I'd recommend having a look at some NEW methods for a while and also focus on holding a trance state without trying to project initially.

Happy travelling :)

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

Awakened_Mind

Quote from: vinny73 on November 20, 2007, 12:49:33
thanks for the advice i think ill take it and not try for a couple days

You posted this while I was typing the other one. Try every day! Don't let failure slow you down, success is just around the corner.

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

CFTraveler

QuoteI'd recommend having a look at some NEW methods for a while and also focus on holding a trance state without trying to project initially.

Happy travelling

-AM
I hesitated to recommend this because of his stress issues.  I'd like to add that if you do go into NEW (or any other type of energy work) don't do it at night or right before a projection attempt- Do it in the morning or afternoon, or you'll never get to sleep- lol. 

Awakened_Mind

Good point.

I've referenced this at least three times before because I think it's good for newbies.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/technique_for_thought_stopping-t24600.0.html

This was originally developed as a means of stress reduction. It is also very useful in 'silencing the mind' and attaining a trance state. I was given this when I was younger and had a sponteous OBE before I'd even heard of AP or OBE's about a week into it.

It was developed by Brain Costello. (http://www.prwebdirect.com/releases/2007/1/prweb495570.php)

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

vinny73

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well thanks for the advice everybody...
i think i need to maybe give it time and not be so impatient

vinny73

Quote from: Awakened_Mind on November 20, 2007, 13:05:28


In relation to your concerns with your mobility while you are projecting,  I'd echo what CFTraveler said. It could be a matter of energy, it could be a matter of 'silver cord'. I don't believe in this personally but it might be an alternative.

I'd recommend having a look at some NEW methods for a while and also focus on holding a trance state without trying to project initially.

Happy travelling :)

-AM

Well when i was out i never looked at or towards the general direction of my physical body due to the fact that ive heard it can be disturbing to see your body lying beneath you.....so i wouldnt know if there was a visible silver cord or not.and my energy i think began to run out after i tryed the front door and was in my room because when i tryed to go up through the ceiling i went blind and didnt know where i was again i got frustrated and thought myself back to my body so i could get up and yell "holy Sh#t ....i just left my body" lol. The front door was like trying to shove my physical body through a block of metal and thats why i tryed the ceiling thinking that wood and all the other materials in a roof are less dense than a metal door since from what i have read we actually have a mass and a denseness to our astral body.

and for the exit it was a little more than the breathing of white light i first described i just didnt want to type it all and wasnt sure it was neccasary
but any way i am into reiki and i was going to do a self attunement and started with lying down and opening and breathing energy into my major chakras individually then i began to breath the white light in to my chakras and body as a whole i soon was in a trance that was solid and very successful compared to my usuall attempts ofcourse i wasnt attempting in the firstplace to trance or astral project but once i had gotten into the trance i decided well what the heck it wouldnt hurt to try and i started seeing a 3-d blackness which helped me get the effect of actually going up a rope in the dark and i hesatated but then thought if i got scared i could just come back so i prayed for a quick minute then began pulling again and then with a loud meow i was out haha.