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Aja090690

Aloha!
I'm pretty brand new to the idea of astral projection, read a few books and theories, and have spoken to a few people.
But nothing compares to actually experiencing it!
Ever since  I started practicing, I've been (maybe overly) cautious about everything I do because I don't want it to affect my efforts.
So I figured I should ask all of you fine folk what precautions you may or may not take in your everyday lives. 
First off, has exercising (cardio, weight lifting, etc.) ever hindered your ability to project? Is yoga safe to do?
Also, I've read that some people stay away from eating meat... Has eating meat ever affected your astral traveling?
I read that iron may increase psychic energy .. Are there any vitamins (non-hallucinogenic drugs) or herb supplements that you have taken that affect your OBE's?
And I've also heard of the use of crystals... Does anyone use crystals/gemstones to induce or facilitate your astral projections?

Please, any advice/insight is greatly appreciated!!
I'm looking forward to reading your replies :3

Astralsuzy

You can do anything you want.   I ride my push bike, play mahjong and other things.   It does not stop me from aping.   Yoga is safe.   I do not understand why it would not be safe.   I would advise you to enjoy what you like doing during the day as it will not affect your ap.   Eating meat does not affect ap.   I think people say it does because they find ap hard.   You will get people that say vitamins or drugs help them to ap.   I think it does not help you to ap.    If you eat healthy food and you have good health, there is no reason why you cannot ap.  Do not over eat as it is hard to ap when you are feeling uncomfortable.    It is hard to ap if you have a cold, a headache or in pain.   Some people use crystals.   They say it helps them.   I think it helps them because they believe it helps them to ap.   If you believe something will work, ap becomes easier.

seapony

If you are overly cautious about things, worried if it will affect your efforts, why not keep a really  compleate log
about what you do, eat etc, and then see how you do ?
I agree with Astralsuzy though, and really, nothing should get in the way  unless you believe it will.
Same for what helps too I suppose..if you really believe something will help, then I'm sure it will.
I have used crystals...but that started for other reasons, and they just make me feel good, so whats the harm ?
I do AP with out them though, so they are not necessary.
Like a lucky shirt or something ! Be rested, relaxed, and comfortable....

Pain is hard to get around...I know that !

Volgerle

A lot of 'been-there-done-that' from me here  :wink:.

Yoga.
Did that too a while ago, but why would it prevent AP? I think it would rather help it, esp. if you do a more Eastern version of Yoga that includes meditation ... or more! (Kundalini etc.).

Sports.
Jogging, Swimming, even visited a fitness centre a few years ago, but I got bored with lifting. I think that a healthy life style with lots of exercise is important in general. But I don't know if it has an effect on AP.

Crystals.
Tried a lot of different gemstones. Had some interesting experiences that were definitely related to them, e.g. with Moldavite and Astrophyllite. But I can AP without and one should not become dependent on them anyway. I don't use them anymore.

Vitamins.
Take a lot, mostly from organic food, veggies and fruit, but also some natural supplements as a booster (tip: organic Moringa Olifeira, for example, which is awesome). No data however if it helps in AP.

Vegetarian.
I am vegetarian full-time since 2011 (also during a phase in the 90ies). Cannot tell if it helped in AP, but it helps with health, body feeling and your body weight. I'm slimmer now (not that I was obese before).

Sugar.
I know that this is not in your list of questions, but I am currently going without industrial sugar. Tom Campbell advises strongly to avoid sugar for better meditation. I cannot confirm this so far. But I keep it up anyway for health purposes since sugar is not healthy at all, even worse than fats.

In sum, most of the things mentioned are good for health (this includes of course crystals!) of the physical body, but my data and experiences do not really support the hypothesis that it helps 'a lot' in AP. Although I still believe that e.g. Vegan or even "Light" diet would help to 'raise vibration' and facilitate psychic abilities which includes APing. Maybe that will be my next step some day.

CFTraveler


Quote from: Aja090690 on January 29, 2014, 01:53:25
Aloha!
I'm pretty brand new to the idea of astral projection, read a few books and theories, and have spoken to a few people.
But nothing compares to actually experiencing it!
Ever since  I started practicing, I've been (maybe overly) cautious about everything I do because I don't want it to affect my efforts.
So I figured I should ask all of you fine folk what precautions you may or may not take in your everyday lives. 
Aloha!
QuoteFirst off, has exercising (cardio, weight lifting, etc.) ever hindered your ability to project? Is yoga safe to do?
I have found exercise to be helpful, because it's a positive in my life, and anything positive and life affirming is good.  Yoga is not only safe to do, but is beneficial, because it teaches more than moving, it teaches energy movement within the body, and that is also good.
QuoteAlso, I've read that some people stay away from eating meat... Has eating meat ever affected your astral traveling?
It has not, but anything that makes you very uncomfortable or distracting should be avoided, so no huge meals or starving- a happy medium that leaves you satisfied but not too full, or worse, bloated, crampy or gassy.
QuoteI read that iron may increase psychic energy .. Are there any vitamins (non-hallucinogenic drugs) or herb supplements that you have taken that affect your OBE's?
I don't have that kind of experience.
QuoteAnd I've also heard of the use of crystals... Does anyone use crystals/gemstones to induce or facilitate your astral projections?
No, but IMO crystals are just like any other 'assigned purpose' object- if you assign it a purpose, it will fulfill its purpose.  Like ritual or hypnotic suggestion.
QuotePlease, any advice/insight is greatly appreciated!!
I'm looking forward to reading your replies :3
You're welcome, and I guess I should give the "This is my opinion" caveat.

Why?

Aja090690

Thank you for your insight everyone :)
I actually meant to ask if it's "safer" to do yoga instead of exercises like cardio lol
But I feel a lot better after reading your responses!!

urshebear

I am a believer in clean eating to clean your mind, body and soul. Crap refined or processed foods containing god knows what make you feel physically sluggish so I think the effect on your mind and soul would be similar.

Anyhoo, I was doing a bit of research and there is evidence to prove that fluoride clouds the pineal gland (third eye) which is active during projections, dreams etc. According to the research I was reading, Fluoride was originally used to keep prisoners docile which I found rather interesting. I will be cutting out fluoride, not just for OBE purposes but for spiritual and physical health reasons as well.

Lionheart

 Basically, in a nut shell. if you believe that something in your habits and your lifestyle is going to inhibit you, it shall.

You visit NPR (Non Physical Realms/Reality) every night. It's just your not consciously aware of it.  :wink:

First off, work on heightening your awareness. This will come through meditation.

Astralsuzy

I agree with Lionheart.   I have noticed when people find it hard to ap, they think of other things that they think can prevent them from aping.   The main reasons not being able to ap is:
Lack of concentration
Mind and body not relaxed

urshebear

so foods, vitamins, minerals etc only affect the mind as some kind of placebo? what about medicines, drugs, alchehole  etc?
I beg to differ sorry, and many many people claim to have more success projecting on a vegan diet, or when they have quit smoking etc etc.

In saying that, I am not calling anyone out here. Each to there own but in my opinion healthy body = healthy mind. Not that it is impossible if you are an unhealthy person but a good healthy diet defiantly will help you achieve more awareness. Poor nutrition will make you tired and sluggish therefore less aware.

Lionheart

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Quote from: urshebear on February 23, 2014, 02:46:22
so foods, vitamins, minerals etc only affect the mind as some kind of placebo? what about medicines, drugs, alchehole  etc?
I beg to differ sorry, and many many people claim to have more success projecting on a vegan diet, or when they have quit smoking etc etc.
You visit NPR (Non Physical Realms/Reality) every night. It's just your not consciously aware of it.  :wink:


Foods, vitamins, minerals etc. have a lot to do with your mind, so does medicines, drugs, alcohol, etc.

I was stating that visiting the NPR "unconsciously" is natural to you. But, you need to be in the right frame and health of mind to do it consciously aware.

Stillwater

Outside of keeping good health, which is itself beneficial for this practice as it is to most things, the list you mentioned doesn't contain many hindrances that I am aware of. What is much more important is things like alcohol or other heavy drug use. People who use alcohol moderately have reported they can still project, but heavy use seems to diminish things, for obvious reasons.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

urshebear

Not going on any research but to me it would seem like a no brainier that although you may be able to project under the influence, the experience would likely be better, clearer, more meaningful with a clear head.....

I know many people have had great experiences after taking drugs but when you sort of review your projection you are going to be saying "oh well, that was just the drug" as opposed to "wow, that was interesting. Where did that come from?"

Stillwater

It depends a lot on the substance; the category is so broad I probably generalized a bit. Some entheogens may bring experiences at very high frequency, whereas opioids and others will likely tend to drop them completely.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic