Wake Induced Experiences and Phenomena

[omcasey]

I very rarely go out of body anymore -in the same way I used to, where I feel myself float up toward the ceiling, etc..  Instead, as I am transitioning I am feeling weightless and vibrational, wave-like.  I am not losing my sense of body, but the way I am experiencing my body is shifting.  I feel myself as a warm, deep, low rolling hummmm- as what I call blisswaves..  Within this I am feeling a very definite pulse, or pulsing, looong, and slow.  Like a strong ujjayi exhale, and then pause.  This goes on for some time until energy is sufficiently raised.  But it is not me -meaning Casey- who is doing this.  It is absolutely internal to me.  I will then begin to be rotated and turned.  For instance, to me, what feels like 'upside down', or any other degree of rotation.  My senses then come in and I find myself fully in a new environment.

Is anyone else experiencing themselves expanding into new environments this way?

I have been looking around but have not found anything.

[CFTraveler]

I think this is an inevitable symptom of development.  It's not as satisfying and mysterious of having that 'extra-local' feeling, but here is what I think:

You are in more than one place at a time, at all times.  You occupy every possible dimension of space, time, and 'nonspace/nontime'.  However, as a human having a physical experience, you don't perceive this multilocality as you move around your 'regular waking' life.  This is necessary- if you did, there would be no point in being here.

As you start having conscious out of body experiences, you begin processing one 'locale' at a time- the etheric, then the astral, and can go up to the mental plane.  When you start experiencing the mental plane, you also start experiencing mental lessons in other planes- after all, this is what 'learning' is- having a mental projection in the physical, about the physical.  But now you can do it in the astral plane, or in the etheric/RTZ.  Think of it- when you have a dreamstate lesson, or a dweller experience (a certain type, of course) you are having a mental plane experience in another plane (or whatever terminology you prefer).  So without being completely aware of it, you are bilocating and/or multilocating.  (in the perceptual sense, of course.)

So at some point you start having astral projections while retaining the in-body perspective, and depending on the level of trance you're in, you perceive both realities simultaneously.  Now the theory for this (one that makes sense to me, I don't attach belief to much, as you know) is that what used to be a traumatic experience for the brain (which is designed to process one space at a time) is no longer, being adaptive, after all.  So the sequence of being 'here' and moving out 'there' doesn't have to be sequentialized, because now the mind/brain knows it's not a 'terrible thing that shouldn't happen' and you begin dual processing your experience- what is also known as 'projecting in place'.  I just call it bilocation.

I believe this is the basis for phasing, which is what happened to Robert Monroe when he stopped 'exiting' the traditional way and started 'shifting into phase' into the astral.

And that's my explanation, anyway.

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[Stookie]

And that's my explanation, anyway.

And an excellent one at that

[omcasey]

CF, thank you for your reply, I am following all of this..

Have you experienced, then, what I wrote there?  When you phase do you feel yourself being rotated?- turned what might feel to you like upside down and such..  I have not been able to find where anyone has spoken about this.  I have questions.  But I barely know what they are.  I thought I would start this conversation as a way of trying to bring them out. 

One thing that has me curious is the tendency to phase 3x in a row into the same place.  Not the same time but the same place.  I feel myself begin the transition part, the energy and being rotated, then come fully into an environment.  After some time I phase out, back into the blackness, the energy and being rotated, then phase right back in to the same environment only at a different time interval.  And then again.

This 3x in a row thing seems to be a signature trait with me, from the beginning it has happened repeatedly.  In more ways than just this.  Does anyone else here have this happening as well?- where you are phased (or otherwise travelled) into the same locale repeatedly..

[CFTraveler]

CF, thank you for your reply, I am following all of this..

Have you experienced, then, what I wrote there?  When you phase do you feel yourself being rotated?- turned what might feel to you like upside down and such..  I have not been able to find where anyone has spoken about this.  I have questions.  But I barely know what they are.  I thought I would start this conversation as a way of trying to bring them out. 

Monroe talked about this in one of his books- that's what gave him the idea of 'phase difference' instead of 'astral plane' which is the 'traditional' description.  And yes, once or twice.  The second time I took the opportunity to spin and I did not like it, because I couldn't stop, and it made me nauseous and aborted the projection.

One thing that has me curious is the tendency to phase 3x in a row into the same place.  Not the same time but the same place.  I feel myself begin the transition part, the energy and being rotated, then come fully into an environment.  After some time I phase out, back into the blackness, the energy and being rotated, then phase right back in to the same environment only at a different time interval.  And then again.

Sounds like there's something there you have to investigate.  A lesson.

This 3x in a row thing seems to be a signature trait with me, from the beginning it has happened repeatedly.  In more ways than just this.  Does anyone else here have this happening as well?- where you are phased (or otherwise travelled) into the same locale repeatedly..

Yes, there are places I keep going to.  One specifically I have figured out.  I assume this to be a collective locale, like Shamballah or the Akashic Records.

[omcasey]

You will return there 3x in a row in the same sitting?- did this have any meaning for you..

The 3x thing seems a signature trait.  Repetition often is a flag for me pay attention.  Maybe this is all it is, something that gets my attention.  But there does seem to be more.  When I phase, or project, I will phase or project 3x in the same sitting.  And/or I will go to the same locale 3x in a row.  And/or if I am getting OBE vibrations there will be 3 rounds of acceleration, much like shifting gears, louder, finer and faster with each shift.

[omcasey]

Oh!, just checking to be sure- would you say the rotating thing is classic with phasing? 

[indian]

I very rarely go out of body anymore -in the same way I used to, where I feel myself float up toward the ceiling, etc..  Instead, as I am transitioning I am feeling weightless and vibrational, wave-like.  I am not losing my sense of body, but the way I am experiencing my body is shifting.  I feel myself as a warm, deep, low rolling hummmm- as what I call blisswaves..  Within this I am feeling a very definite pulse, or pulsing, looong, and slow.  Like a strong ujjayi exhale, and then pause.  This goes on for some time until energy is sufficiently raised.  But it is not me -meaning Casey- who is doing this.  It is absolutely internal to me.  I will then begin to be rotated and turned.  For instance, to me, what feels like 'upside down', or any other degree of rotation.  My senses then come in and I find myself fully in a new environment.

Is anyone else experiencing themselves expanding into new environments this way?

I have been looking around but have not found anything.

When people go to phasing from classic OBE, they can feel so many different sensation. When I started phasing, I felt many different type of sensation during transition. For example, for almost 2 weeks I felt vibrations and my consciousness was never inside the body. Sometimes I felt like I was bending, and sometimes rotating.

But when I was feeling all these things, I was not able to phase correctly because most of that time I was busy feeling/watching those sensations. Then one day I figured that somehow I will have to put my mind away from these sensations to phase correctly and then I put a block on it.

When you do classic OBE, you make a body double (or energy body) to get the feeling of going out. But actually you don't go anywhere, that's just a feeling. So if you ignore that energy body feeling and do not pay any attention to it, it will start melting and there will be a time when you will not have any sensation of floating or rotating. In phasing, your main attention should be on awareness, or you can call it noticing.

During classic OBE, you have made a body double and that is giving that kind of floating or rotating sensation. I can say this from my experience because people who never done any classic OBE before, if you teach them phasing, they will not feel any sensation and they will phase easily. While I was on the classic OBE and I felt so many things and now, I don't feel any vibration at all, because deep down I have put a block on classic OBE and gone completely into phasing.

If you are able to phase with all these sensations, it's perfect. But for me, these sensations were not allowing me to go completely into phasing.

Let me know If I understood you correctly.

The above experiences are MINE and that don't apply on every body.

[CFTraveler]

You will return there 3x in a row in the same sitting?- did this have any meaning for you..

Not in the same sitting, but at different times.  There is one place in particular that I go to fairly often, certainly more than three times.  I have come to consider it to be a metaphor for my energy body or my mind (which may be the same thing, lol).

[omcasey]

Ah!- yes I am realizing more and more I have 'return to' places.. and people . .

[omcasey]

Indian,

Thank you for your presence here....

My Kundalini process sometimes involves periods when I am unable to read (in a comprehensive way) and write.  Like now, it came up on me again yesterday.  I will return and continue when I am able to take in what you said.  I appreciate your input.

[indian]

Indian,

Thank you for your presence here....

My Kundalini process sometimes involves periods when I am unable to read (in a comprehensive way) and write.  Like now, it came up on me again yesterday.  I will return and continue when I am able to take in what you said.  I appreciate your input.

Sure.. once you are back, write in detail about your Kundalini periods too, I would love to hear that.