Melting Hands Phenomenon

[Under_the_Midnight_Sun]

(hmm just realized this topic should have gone into astral consciousness, my mistake )

Hey everyone,
The other day i was thinking about the vibrations theory, where we expect to feel the vibrations and experience them because of our expectations. (of course this is probably not the case, because some people commented saying they felt the vibrations and had no idea what they were).

Well, on many occasions in the rtz (it seems to only happen there) I have seen my hands melt like candle wax. To begin with my hands and arms appear transparent and ghostly. When observed they seem to melt away, like they did not even exist in the first place! -Like it was just a figment of the powerful mind. Then, when the focus leaves the hands, and returns to them seconds later the same process proceeds again from the beginning. It truly is a unique phenomenon to behold.

Now, in Astral Dynamics RB says
"The hands are the easiest body parts to see. They vary in appearance from normal to distorted. When looked at, the real-time double's hands will start melting rapidly, like white ice under a blowtorch, reducing to wrist stumps in seconds. This effect appears to be caused by the act of self-observation causing a conflict that interferes with the projected double. The melting hands phenomenon is one of the few constant factors of real-time OBE. This can help ascertain the projector's level, whether in real time, astral plane, or lucid dream states."

Could this "phenomenon" be ONLY a subjective experience of RB? He experienced it and thus wrote about it in his book. Now everyone else will EXPECT to experience the same.
The question is has anybody, who has not read AD or heard of this, observed the rtz astral hands melt?

[Monk]

Maybe it's your "perspective" of your hands that is melting away?

[AstralBeginnings]

I read Astral Dynamics and then looked at my hands when projecting and they didnt melt, although they did look fake.

[Lexy]

well I read this also in the book DO_OBE

he said if you are stuck in the void to try & look at your hands, sometimes they look like melted stumps, etc. I don't think RB is the only one this has happened to.

[Xanth]

I've witnessed the hands-melting-thing twice so far.
I couldn't tell ya what causes it.

[Summerlander]

Usually, here-now physical reality projections are experienced from a floating pair of eyes perspective. No physical-like body is perceived as is typical of astral projections (projections into the metaphysical realm).

However, in physical realm projections we may manifest a shadowy/transparent body and we may also see and/or feel the shadowy phantom limbs. I have also seen "melting" transparent hands before. It may be that this shadowy body is a manifestation or symptom of an individual consciousness experiencing the 'inbetween' of two realms: an overlap of Locale I and Locale II...

[Killa Rican]

WOW it's funny i come across this thread, Because after waking up from an intense lucid dream this morning, I woke up And saw my "hands" coming out of my body...Like I had 4 arms. Very much like that picture! Coincidence or not I'll take it lol. I'm interested to know what it is.

[Under_the_Midnight_Sun]

Usually, here-now physical reality projections are experienced from a floating pair of eyes perspective. No physical-like body is perceived as is typical of astral projections (projections into the metaphysical realm).

However, in physical realm projections we may manifest a shadowy/transparent body and we may also see and/or feel the shadowy phantom limbs. I have also seen "melting" transparent hands before. It may be that this shadowy body is a manifestation or symptom of an individual consciousness experiencing the 'inbetween' of two realms: an overlap of Locale I and Locale II...

hi summerlander,
I have never experienced what people have called the floating point of consciousness in what you refer to as Locale I. It appears that as soon as i project out of my body (into the rtz of course) I have a body form, which can be used for "physical" activities such as walking. (I've heard some say that you cannot walk in the rtz, but drift around instead). So, i'm assuming these would be locale II projections, if there really is a locale closer to the physical.
The strange thing is, i have seen my hands melt, but observed my legs and rest of body, and not noticed any breakdown in the form whatsoever. It seems to be an event that goes hand in hand with the hands (pun intended  ).

[Summerlander]

Yes. Also, Locale I is usually short lived and you rarely go further than your room before you phase back to the body or you phase into Locale II.

I'd also like to say that in Locale I it is extremely difficult to stay in one particular location and remain there. Sometimes it is almost as if you can be anywhere and your conscious focus has a hard time in pinpointing the location where it will 'ignite'.

By the way, the shadowy body may get denser as you go along and this could indicate that you are gradually slipping into Locale II, which is the realm of thoughts (metaphysical). Curbing your thoughts and maintining a mild curiosity on what appears to be the physical realm (no anomalies apparent and colours are duller) may help to ground you on that level. At least that's what seemed to happen in this experience of mine:

http://astralviewers.com/summerlander-journal/plasmic-limbs/

[Under_the_Midnight_Sun]

Yes. Also, Locale I is usually short lived and you rarely go further than your room before you phase back to the body or you phase into Locale II.

I'd also like to say that in Locale I it is extremely difficult to stay in one particular location and remain there. Sometimes it is almost as if you can be anywhere and your conscious focus has a hard time in pinpointing the location where it will 'ignite'.

By the way, the shadowy body may get denser as you go along and this could indicate that you are gradually slipping into Locale II, which is the realm of thoughts (metaphysical). Curbing your thoughts and maintining a mild curiosity on what appears to be the physical realm (no anomalies apparent and colours are duller) may help to ground you on that level. At least that's what seemed to happen in this experience of mine:

http://astralviewers.com/summerlander-journal/plasmic-limbs/

Interesting experience, I know what you mean by the weightlessness in the arms