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urshebear

Is there anything to be learned by listening to them? I usually ignore them

Szaxx

There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Stookie_

I agree with Szaxx, they are normally just something to ignore and sit through until the good stuff starts.

Pauli2

Could be what Monroe called the H band, the astral garble of
all humans thoughts on Earth. It's said to be located somewhere
between F 3 and F 10.

Sometimes the H band is called the M-band, H = human, M = Mind.
Monroe's (M) Field is something else.

Monroe usually ignored the H band and just moved on to other Focuses.
Former PauliEffect (got lost on server crash), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_effect

urshebear

Nothing good or interesting has happened in my OBEs for a looong time. Im pretty sure I am stuck in like an f2 training ground type situation so am trying to think.of other things I can play around with, hence the question lol

Szaxx

Hi,
Youre so far on the way, try relaxing more or not moving anything on your body at all (heart and breathing excluded of course).
Slow everything down as best you can.
See you out there.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

urshebear

I just feel like I am always in this house. although I don't know the house, I know it well when I am there. I walk around and usually play around with a few things eg a running tap or a TV set. I eventually get bored and go flying until I either snap back or lose lucidity. I have been there for about 6-9 months and have tried Franks method of creating 3d blinds (which I can do but it doesn't change anything) Ive tried scadooing into a mirror. I have asked "guides" for help and have even sat there like a weirdo asking my cat where to next. Ive heard that singing can raise your vibration but lol I am actually ALWAYS singing in my OBEs and I cant help it. its strange my thoughts come out in song. ANYWAY I am still stuck in this house. maybe I need to do something before I can leave I don't know?? Also I am always alone apart from the odd lifeless zombie. I wont give up though. Thanks muchly for the advice  :-)

Szaxx

Hi,
Its not that stupid a question.
Does this house need tidying or anything that you are good at?
It sounds familiar to my early days where you're stuck (groundhog day) until you find the problem and sort it out. It's not that obvious too. The doors to the outside may need unlocking for example.
Its something to do with you or your development. Have a think when there. Try lateral thinking as this solves some of the more cryptic scenarios.
Its a challenge, remember this, it will help.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

urshebear

OK thanks I'll do that next time I'm there

Pauli2

There are various things you can do.

1. In advance come up with some valid questions you want answer to.

2. Ask who has created the house, the surroundings, the setting, the world
you are in. Direct your question to the "creator" and ask why you're there
or what purpose the experience has to you or what you're supposed to do.

3. Be an experimenter. In advance figure out various things to do.

4. Try to go to places where other people are, who you know.

5. Request to go as far as possible or meet someone who has
something important to say to you.

6. Request or ask into the "air" how to improve your abilities or
how to create new ones. Ask what lies beyond the house.

7. Request clarity, awareness. Can you help anyone, give healing?

8. Request that all things only created by your mind to go away.
What is left?

9. Request to go meet other parts of yourself.

You may not get answer to anything, but you may get some new
knowings over time.
Former PauliEffect (got lost on server crash), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_effect