Mind sick?

[Steve 2B]

I got some time at the w/e to do a little practice on finding that point in the mind, to focus on. Having found what I can only presume was it, I was trying to persuade it to shift into the scene I'd been building. It was having none of it, so after 15 Min's I switched to the noticing exercise, was getting various swirly patterns appear, tho nothing to make me go "Whoa! Here we go!" So got to musing about I must be not looking in the right place, began probing around on the inside of my head to find the "I". It felt a bit like having a mental finger inside my skull, probing/feeling/tracing the contours until I came across something that had some resistance, or more like something that went 'Dink' when touched. Aha I thought this 'must' be it. Anyway not alot was happening on the imagery front, so in the end I thought I'd have a bit of fun with it, before stopping for the day.
I some how managed to grab hold of it mentally (A bit like putting some mentally constructed hands around it), and tried pulling and pushing to see what would happen.
Now...Here's the strange thing. I play one of those binural beats/waves through some headphone (mostly because of the external/distracting noises, where I live.), In the background of the sine wave I have that crashing ocean wave pink noise, gives that nice whooshing sound, so I start pulling and pushing to the sound of the waves, after a few moments the FoA starts to move! (although in physical terms it could have only been a few mm, or maybe 1/2 cm) After about five minutes or so of this pulling and pushing, really concentrating I got it up to quite a good speed, could see movement/ oscillations/ripple in a sort of deep silver blue colour...Then all of a sudden...LoL.. I start getting a quite strong wave of motion sickness, and had to stop. After the sensation had stopped I laughed like hell

Ideas?

Cheers,

Steve

[Frank]

Steve:

Ha ha, I couldn't help but laugh but what you are doing sounds very much like "Frank's squishy ball technique". If you do a search then it may still throw up a few posts from the beginning days.

When I very first joined this forum I was experimenting trying to "slow down" my usual projection technique and trying to find that place in mind, and I would go through experiences very much like you are describing now.

I would say you are bang on target and will, before not too long, start making the same kinds of mental breakthroughs as I did.

Yours,
Frank

[mactombs]

That sounds neat, until you get the motion sickness, anyway. I'm having trouble with the notion of finding something that doesn't really seem to have dimension - and when I try to put it into dimension, wind up just make the dimension of my mind my field of vision. I only stumble onto the point on accident, and only recognize it now because of the swirly colors and whatnot people talk about.

[Steve 2B]

Frank,

 Thanks ever so much for your words/encouragement there, I really appreciate it I had a dig through the Astral pulse labyrinth(My goodness! what a huge number of posts there are here! ), and found one that seems to be one you referred to;

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1141

I'm about to print it out, so will be able to re-read it, when I leave work tonight. It's some really interesting reading, you point out several things that I immediately recognized, will get to work on. I also suspect this is this issue which I've been stumbling over in the last few weeks, boy what a mental conundrum this is! Still I enjoy a good challenge, even though it can be so frustrating at times!!

mactombs,

LoL, yeah that's what I thought too, until the nausea hit me I've been sitting here thinking about how I found the thing...I remember I was thinking how nebulous the process/method in finding the "I" was and was moving my awareness around inside my brain case thinking "Well it must be in here somewhere" (A bit like a mental version of trying to find something you've lost amongst all the clutter in the house(Looking under the piles of books,etc)). So I'm using the awareness like a mental hand, eventually got to the area that everyone talks about, felt something there, felt like it was fixed, or maybe stuck there....And so I went "aha!"
But! Again, now that I'm thinking about the process what helped me find it essentially I was following the running commentary back to it's source, like finding the direction of a sound, with your ears... If that makes any sense?
 As soon as I thought that I had this picture come up in mind of something like a megaphone, or one of those p.a tannoys on the long pole...I'm not sure what that even means yet, if anything?? Or if it's at all correct?? <shrugs>

Anyway...More food for thought I guess, I need an aspirin as all this speculation's given me a headache..Owww

ATB

Steve

<edit> Frank,

I've spent some hours this afternoon trying to find the expanded version of the 'squishy ball' topic this afternoon, but to no avail But I did enjoy alot of the posting that you and some others have made, how techniques, etc have developed If you happen to wander by again, I wonder, would you mind typing a bit more to expand it again? I know you're a very busy fellow, so if the essentials are contained in the link above, then no
worries

Thanks again

S