SP

[Lord_Dark_Forses]

Hello,

so the other night i was trying a method i found about reaching SP, its just keeping your eyes open until they start closing by themselves and then you just open then right when you are falling asleep, and what this is suppose to cause you is SP still being awake.

i tried, and during the last minutes that i was trying it, right before i would fall asleep, my eyes closing, and i would be drifting into sleep, right there i could felt a small "electrical" discharge on my spine, but it was not so electrifying, but it felt like it.

is that how conscious sp feels like before it paralyses you?

[Xanth]

Well, the feeling of Sleep Paralysis is... being paralyzed.
Any other associated "sensations" *you* will feel will be unique to you.

I've seen this technique done slightly different in that instead of just waiting until your eyes start closing on their own... you would focus upon an object you've placed a few feet away from you.  Essentially, you focus upon this object until you start to fall asleep... and as your eyes close on their own accord, the focusing would keep your mind awake, which would trigger the trance state.  At which point your body would be "asleep", however you would be seeing through your closed eyes at the object.

Doing this without the "object" to focus upon would make it harder as you wouldn't have that extra point of concentration.

[Lord_Dark_Forses]

Thanks Xanth

[Contenteo]

Outta pure curiosity, why are you looking to search out SP Lord?

I have, as I am sure you have too at this point, encountered it a numerous times. For me none have been pleasant.

The Japanese have a specific word for Sleep Paralysis, it's "Kanishibari" which literally means 'wrapped in chains.'

At this point, as nomenclature is always a big issue when tackling intangible concepts, I must specify.
There are two sensations that are extremely similar and should not be confused:

One leads to a sensation of drowning         - Sleep Paralysis              (hence my curiosity) 
The other to successful AP                         - F12 Lead Blanket

I feel particularly strong about this because It was this that was one my greatest hurdles.

Traditional accounts for Kanishibari, sleep paralysis, arise usually when one awakes from a dream state, to find that they are wide awake, but cannot move a muscle in their body. As expected, the person usually freaks out, struggling when they should have simply wiggled their toes calmly to wake their body from this state. Sleep scientists hypothesize that the body enters this state so when you dream you don't thrash about in your bed, evolutionary-wise, thrash yourself off the tree limb you are sleeping on to a predator below. Amongst APers this form of SP is rare because the shallows of our consciousness is our playground. So that is the pain of coming out of SP. As for going into SP, there is an equally terrible other side of the cracker.
As you pass through F10, mind awake-body asleep, into F12, you have to pass through the state where your body makes this transition to paralysis. This is technically switching over to a sympathetic muscle system only, like your heart, and more notably, breathing system. Breathing is the big one. If you hit a stage where everything is proceeding great, except you are still paying attention to your breathing, it's going to suck b/c you are going to consciously have to stop breathing. And this isn't fun. It's near downright torture. This is the wrong way to enter the F12-15-21 passageway. It is said it is possible and your body will just take over, but many non-Tai-Chi/Yogi masters, at this point it is just too much.

Now the confusing and difficult part, is that the road to success is very similar, Except Kanishibari in this state is called "The Lead Blanket". You will know this sensation, because there really is nothing else to call it except the Lead Blanket. This difference is, that you disconnected yourself(didn't pay attention) at the right time, in that difficult to define F10-F12 period, from the physical so your body naturally switched over. The only way I have found to do this consistently is sufficiently waiting for your body to fall asleep (mature F10) and start a full-fledged onslaught of ceaseless visualization efforts. When you don't know where you are, bingo, you guessed it, you are there. You will experience a 'black vastness' and you will feel like you body is getting pushed down, down into the bed, sinking...sinking...and it will feel good and you are on perfect schedule to catch you train to the astral. At this point it is pretty cool because you can say to yourself, "Hey! I am not breathing, no excrement! This is pretty cool." And you will be just fine. I will say that if you search for your breathing at this point, you can find it and you can snap yourself out of it, so, don't do that, rather, calm yourself and think deeper and deeper and deeper, and start you transition and focus on your "third eye/crown chakra/forehead/mantra/climb the rope whatever.

I wish you the best on avoiding many late-night, out-of-water, sleep drownings.

Avoid the chains, Feel the whoosh, See the light, Sayonara,

Contenteo

[Lord_Dark_Forses]

thanks Contenteo again!!

i have been in SP before and its nothing compare to when im in F12 (i think <.<!) because i can still move my body if i wish and my bones get kind of stiff (which i think it means that im not totally relaxed).

i get the muscle twitching, kind of feel the blanket, and sometimes "feel like i ran out of air" and then i take a deep breath, among other things.

i have been noticing myself during my last phasing sessions, and when im trying to AP and i have notice that while "im away from my body" i kind of tense my back a bit, and front head, so im working on those things.

i believe that while im trying to AP i have been jumping steps and changing their order a bit, so i want to make sure that im going through every basic step correctly.

[istop2]

Hey, i have a question about " the blanket".

- can someone move, when in that state ?

[Contenteo]

Lord - Yeah, detaching yourself from breathing and involuntarily straining you muscles, especially face and back, are the worst of the challenges. I know from overcoming them and still running into them, even now, more frequently then I'd like to admit. But I can gladly tell you, both of those are results from the same path, intending too hard, too soon. More aptly said, your intent still lies in the physical. When I hit one of those walls, I back up, and realize my issue was a not developing a mature enough F10 state. SP is in F12, not F10. I rushed it. Its the same thing as pumping too much gas into a piston before it is ready to fire. You'll flood the engine. Wait for the right moment and strike.


Istop - Best explained, yeah, you can move, you can knock yourself outta it. But man, a true F12 is such an amazing state. It is just such vast blackness. Your body feels exactly like it does in a falling dream. You know, right when you come out of it. Soothingly minuscule in such vastness. Think about it, in theory, you are at PUL's doorstep. If you go deeper, that's when you hit the beginning of what I believe Frank called the "Launchpad." You literally lose track of time in this state. Even reflecting right now, the state is truly crazy awesome, If you catch a good one, I don't know why you would want to leave and knock yourself out of it. Most of the times I get to that point, I simply enjoy it and more times than not, and accidentally knocked myself out of state. And when you do knock yourself out of state you are covered, and I mean bathing, in vibrations.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[istop2]

Thanks for you replay

- can i leave my body when in  focus 12 ?

[Contenteo]

If you "could" put your finger on where the phasing process begins, I would say it is with the F12-15-21 gateway/launchpad, which begins in F12.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[Lionheart]

 Contenteo, I have gotten away from the Focus levels myself and find the Astral has changed quite a bit for me. Do you think that because you are using a planned pattern that possibly you are creating all the focus destinations yourself now? When I first started the AP I was brought to the Training Zone, but I had also read that this is the first destination you go to. I never did make it to visually see what Monroe calls Focus 21/22/23 etc. When I Astral Travel I usually go to what I need to see or experience next, but since I have stopped reading Monroe, I find that I plot my own paths. Are your expectations bringing you to these Focus areas?

[Contenteo]

If we are to help people, we need a mental map to share with others. Because we are talking about the intangible, no specific words will not actually work. All words have contextual bias. Only metaphors will work. For this reason I enjoy sticking with Monroe's focus model. It has no words. It is a sequential pattern for how disconnected your state is. Monroe pioneered, and took on a great deal of responsibility to name it as representationally faithful as possible. He did a good job, not the best or perfect, but well enough for me to respect his taxonomy. He is a historical figure in this field of study and his scientific approach lends credence to what would otherwise be us speaking in touchy-feely words and metaphors. What skeptical soul would ever buy that? I sure didn't for the majority of my life. I thought communities like this were a gaggle of nuts rolling off a cliff.

I wholeheartedly agree, my experiences with phasing has changed drastically. Now, I just do it. In fact, professionally put, that's the only way to do it. Except saying "just don't think about it, just phase" doesn't help the newbies to much. In all I am with you 100%. Once you get over F22, I don't think Monroe did not know how to map at all what he was experiencing, but I commend him for keeping consistency in his sequential pattern, if or not it was the right choice right. I also commend him for putting the "Akashic records" at the end. That's a good goal for anyone delving into their consciousness. In all, what he calls, F3 F10 F12-F15-F21 & F22 (and maybe even F23) are all sequentially patternable and can be duplicated. I even made a map of it. Yes, F15 is very weird. In fact you can't put your finger on it. But it happens. But as for what I have been experiencing lately, everything "F23 and beyond", has been a complete barrage. I don't know where to start mapping and I could see why he just stuck with the same pattern he started with. How would you map everything once you gained control on the astral plane?


Cheers, (to Monroe)
Contenteo

[Lord_Dark_Forses]

has anyone thought about that "we may all look at the same object, but in our own eyes the object has a different color and it is still the same object, independent"? <.<!

The Kybalion, Libel Thot

[Lionheart]

 Different people different perceptions, different view points. Yes, we could all be seeing the same things initially, getting there. But I'm sure we are all not using the same intent once there.