THE method

[Job]

From my experience, astral projection doesn't come easy. Some people spend up to several hours daily just trying to achieve a single split.

What a lot of people want to know is, what is "the key"? What is the quick-solution for astral projection. At times many even believe that they have discovered the quick solution. One night a certain technique might have worked wonders. The disappointment comes the following night, after the technique has already been posted on some random forum throughout the web, and the self-same person tries it again.

What happens? Why does the "quick-fix" not work again? The answer often lies in the particular circumstances that we were in at the moment of success...
It is not uncommon to receive aid from more spiritually-advanced beings in the astral who see those who are making good efforts and desire to achieve a conscious astral split.

Unfortunately, at this point the self-same person has already disseminated the method to some random forum throughout the web. Many people do this. There then become many random methods that either do not work at all, or that only work from time to time. Then people look at other methods (after being engrossed in the vast array of techniques that have gotten them no where); these very few other methods are given little attention. The unfortunate side to this story is that such methods, these others which I'm referring to, are the ones that actually work and which build with continuous use (though limitations they might have).

Few people are fortunate to come across these methods. I posted one such method, which I'm sure works marvelously, in this forum. It's very simple. So, perhaps for that reason it was given especially even less attention. I didn't make it up myself, but I've tried it numerous times with success.

I used to say mantras for up to hours a day while going to bed and before bed. I've tried random mantras and techniques for astral projection. The one that is posted in this forum actually works, when used long enough (with no other methods to deplete its effects). In other words, it works when used continuously, for a great amount of time and daily practice, when not mixed with other methods--which can have the affect of reducing or completely preventing all or any results.

I hope all who are interested in astral projection give it a sincere try. I hate to see such a method left in the dust.  Imagine...what could come of it if many people tried this, figured out it really does work, and began a daily discipline. An "authentic" method could arise and spread. Imagine what will happen if no one tries it. It will just be one of those few genuine gems which are left in the dust, obscured by the various methods throughout the web.

I also do understand that it might be possible that some things that work for some people might not work for others. However, having worked with other people and having at least a slight  glimpse of  knowledge of their experiences, and the experiences they have gained from certain methods, I can say honestly that we are all very similar; and, perhaps, undergoing similar circumstances. I have even been able to see that a groups' experiences reflects that of a single person. Whenever one person is doing bad, the rest of the groups seems to be doing so as well, and vice-versa; just as whenever one person is sick with a virus, many other people within the same city can often be found with the same sickness.

It seems strange, but there does seem to be an over-all current of astral and metaphysical experiences within groups. Perhaps, if the group would make supreme efforts, each single person might experience wonders...
Just an idea.

The mantra is as follows. I'm borrowing it from one of my previous posts:

I typically find that the sensations are at the most extreme when the physical body is unrelaxed. Sometimes there are spontaneous astral projection experiences, in which the body is unrelaxed (not completely prepared for sleep). Of course, the body relaxes naturally through sleep. The key is to learn to stay awake as the body goes to sleep. A mantra (a phrase that is said repeatedly) can help to do that.

Mantra FA-RA-ON

Mantra - A phrase that is ordinarily spoken prolonged to produce specific effects.

Pronunciation:

FA (as in far)

RA (as in far); the R is trilled

ON (as in stone)

1. Sit or lay down in a comfortable position to prepare for sleep.

2. Inhale. Upon exhaling [mentally] chant the phrase FA, prolonging it: FAAAAAAA

3. Again inhale. Upon exhaling [mentally] chant the phrase RRRAAAAA

4. Once more inhale. Upon exhaling [mentally] chant the phrase OOOOOONNNN

5. Say the mantra on and on continuously, for what feels like about an hour, two, or more. The application of the mantra improves with practice. It also has the effect of stimulating lucid experiences in the night.

FAAAAAAA...
RRRRAAAAAA...
OOOOOONNNN...

FAAAAAAA...
RRRRAAAAAA...
OOOOOONNNN...

FAAAAAAA...
RRRRAAAAAA...
OOOOOONNNN...

Note: Astral projection can be learned quickly with the application of mantras, though they have to be said generally for a good interval of time. In truth, the only true way to learn to astral projection is by astral projecting every day.

(pm me for a sound file of the mantra)

Good will to All!

[Hans Solo]

I agree and disagree with this post.  I have come to the realization that it is not the specific method or technique that really matters with astral projection, it is the skill.  What I mean by this is  that most people go from one method to the next putting there faith in the method and not their skill.  

For instance, lets say that we were all high jumpers and our goal is to high jump over a bar set at 7 feet.  We hear that it is easiest to jump over the bar going from the right side and jumping over it backwards.  So we try this and get mixed results, but we then hear that the left side is the best jumping over forwards, so we try that with mixed results.  Soon we get discouraged and give up or keep trying different approaches with lack luster results.  However, all these methods are still dependent on ones skill and Ability.  The real high jumper gets their muscles and form conditioned to such an extent that clearing the 7 foot mark is possible.  When this happens they can clear this height at will.  

The real conditioning in any occult practice is CONCENTRATION.  Something most of us are severely lacking.  With the necessary concentration one can phase, or astral travel, seemingly at will.  However, this answer is not sexy and would not sell many books on the subject.  "You mean there is WORK that needs to be put into achieving this goal?"  ...YES.  

If you want to get your skill and ability up to par I would recommend reading "The power of concentration"  at http://www.psitek.net/pages/PsiTekTPOCContents.html .  There are more books like this at this site and they are all free.  Also, initiation into hermetics is great book, the master key system is another.  I just started this regime and am coming from an ADD background, so I have some work to do but I do believe this is the REAL key to AP.

The reason I don't think that mantras are all that bad is because you are training your concentration skill.  I don't think it is as good as doing concentration exercises with the THoughtstream Biofeedback machine, but I do think it will help and eventually get you there.

Any thoughts,
Han

[Quo Animo]

listen, all you need to project/phase is to relax the body. i reached the mind awake body asleep state 2 nights in a row (8-15 mins each) by relaxing my body using this method that consists of resting your body in individual parts:

(might seem long to read but its not.. read the whole thing and you'll be smooth sailing)


http://www.eliasforum.org/exercises/relaxation3.html

<  relax your body  >

GREGORIA: "My question's a lot simpler. I need to know or learn how to relax so I can THINK about what my purpose is. I'm not even that far, as far as ... I need to relax. I just changed jobs recently from a lot of pressure and now I have zero pressure and I don't know what to do with it. ...

ELIAS: And this is quite significant to you all, for the incorporation of freedom is quite unfamiliar. Once you offer yourself the expression of freedom you become confused and floundering, for you are quite accustomed to structure and the dictates of other individuals. Your question incorporates relaxing, and this also applies to you all.

The method in which you allow yourself to incorporate relaxing is quite simple. Allow yourself to pay attention, be aware of YOU in the moment. Within the moment initially you shall not be aware objectively of your process in generating tension, but once you have generated tension you shall be aware that you are creating that. In this, as you practice, eventually you shall be aware BEFORE you generate the expression of tension or as you begin to generate it.

But within this present now, turn your attention in the moment that you notice that you have already generated tension, and once you are noticing, focus your attention upon your physical body expression. Do not attempt meditation or visualizations or chanting or affirmations, for you have already generated the tension and therefore your concentration is focused upon that, and these other expressions shall fall by the wayside. (Chuckles) But you may quite efficiently divert your attention.

Focus your attention upon your physical body. Focus your attention upon your physical muscles and their expression of tension. Individualize your muscles. Recognize each expression of tension that you are physically incorporating. Begin with your shoulders and allow your attention to move from your shoulders, INTENTIONALLY DIRECTING THEM to relax and allowing that relaxing.

Move your attention to your solar plexus, for generally speaking this is the second most intense expression of tension that individuals within your physical dimension incorporate. You hold tension within your shoulders and that which supports what? Your thinking, your head, your neck. Beyond that you incorporate the constriction and tension of your yellow energy center, for this is the seat of your communication to yourself, and therefore you stifle this and restrict it and create tremendous tension within your solar plexus, attempting to silence your own communication.

Once you have relaxed your neck and your shoulders physically, and you have moved to relaxing your solar plexus and your yellow energy center, focus your attention upon your physical back, for this is the expression of the supportiveness of yourself and you incorporate tremendous tension in this physical location. In relaxing that physical area, in these three actions you have already sufficiently diverted and distracted your attention and efficiently allowed yourself to create a relaxation.

Thusly, focus your attention upon your physical breathing, for this also generates tension. As your breathing becomes more shallow, you allow yourself to incorporate tenseness. It is quite difficult and challenging to incorporate physical tension within your physical body if your breathing relaxes.

This is the reason that individuals incorporate the action of weeping, for you have incorporated such an extreme of tension within your physical body it automatically responds to release that tension, and in the action of weeping you incorporate breathing. In continuing weeping you restrict your breathing; but if you are allowing yourself the action of breath in volume, I shall challenge you to attempt to continue to weep, for you shall not incorporate this action if you are incorporating tremendous breath. You dissipate the tension and you may not continue the weeping. It is merely in the action of continuing that tension and shallowing your breath that you allow yourself to continue to weep. The weeping itself is an automatic expression of your physical body to release tension.

In diverting your attention to your physical body and its incorporation of tension, addressing to this and intentionally relaxing physical muscles, your attention shall be sufficiently distracted to allow you to relax. Once you have incorporated that action, merely express to yourself, 'I incorporate choice. It is unnecessary for myself to be holding this tension. What is occurring within this moment? What am I generating within this moment that I need be incorporating this tension?' No action. Practice with this action, my friend, and you may surprise yourself at how efficient you may become.

GREGORIA: I will.

ELIAS: Very well."

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to reach the non-physical you have to relax the physical.

[Hans Solo]

I also agree with relaxation, but after you relax it is best to use relaxed concentration to phase into a scene.  You will find in focus 10 (MABA) that if you are not concentrating you still won't phase.  You need to absorb yourself into the scene using as many senses as possible.


Han

[Mitch]

And.. if you can't trill your R's?  

[Job]

I've tried many other techniques, and even other mantras for astral projection. Faraon worked among the best, and it worked time and time again.

I've tried relaxing my muscles before using mantras and other methods, but it just doesn't seem to work.

Mitch,

It's possible to learn to trill an R. It's not too hard.

[Stookie]

What is "Faraon"?  Does it have meaning?

[Job]

http://yahooligans.yahoo.com/reference/dict_en_es/entry?lb=e&p=num%3As10315

[andonitxo]

What is "Faraon"?  Does it have meaning?

Faraon stands for "Pharaoh, ruler of ancient Egypt".

It is said that way in Spanish (faraón). I would pronounce it as:

Fa - ra - on (stressing in the last part, "on").

Fa as in /FAr/

Ra as in /Rat/ /fAr/

On as in /Off/ /oN/

Very easy to pronounce... really

[Job]

It's not really pronounced like how it's spelled, with accent mark and all. I know a place where to get a sound file of the mantra from it's creator. Also, you can get it in my voice (which sounds different).

[Stillwater]

The answer often lies in the particular cirreleasestances that we were in at the moment of success…

When I type the word "cir*c*u*m*stances in another post, it changes to "cirreleasestances" too! Why on earth would that happen, lol???


And regarding the mantra, I do not think it is so much that particular mantra that yields results, but a mantra in general, as Solo says. THe power of concentration seems to be what is being generated; you would have extreme difficulty proving otherwise- it is just about impossible to test scientifically, as the scientific method of experimentation involves changing only one variable at a time, and whenever people, and especially their psychology is in effect, you can never be sure one variable at time is changed! For example: you tried other mantras, and you read about "FARAON"; perhaps the time you tried that mantra, you did so in a different mental state, perhaps expecting it to work, where you did not expect that of others; this alone can have an effect! It is difficult to control the psyche, and so one cannot say what variable gave the results.

[Stillwater]

thanx lola, lol.....

I have no idea why that bugged me so much that I needed to post it mid-thread

when it typed the word "circumstances" and it read as "cirreleasestances", I thought something was wrong with my fingers!

[Job]

Stillwater,

True, the state of the psyche has a tremendous effect on astral experiences. One key is getting to the inner stillness (mental equilibrium). The reason why I posted this method is because it not only causes astral projection, but is very proficient in triggering lucid dreams. It's honestly one of the best methods that I've tried and the only method which has worked daily with tremendous efforts. Considering the different mental and psychic cicumstances that may be encountered, the method can be done long enough to exaust the rigid mind. Therefore, the purpose is mental equilibrium. Some people are going to look at this post and think "oh no, this mantra is going to make us bananas". For them, they'll just have to give it a good try, daily practice, till they get to the aim of meditation (mental equilibrium). With the mental equilibrium, as a natural consequence temporary equilibrium of the psyche should follow. Then the peace and ecstatic state spreads throughout the body. With this, they can verify their temporary awakendness and complete conscious control.

[Job]

Also, in a state of higher consciousness (which can result from mental equilbrium), the separation into the astral plane (falling asleep) takes place naturally. Then, we knowingly enter the astral plane.

[Stillwater]

True, the state of the psyche has a tremendous effect on astral experiences. One key is getting to the inner stillness (mental equilibrium). The reason why I posted this method is because it not only causes astral projection, but is very proficient in triggering lucid dreams. It's honestly one of the best methods that I've tried and the only method which has worked daily with tremendous efforts. Considering the different mental and psychic cicumstances that may be encountered, the method can be done long enough to exaust the rigid mind. Therefore, the purpose is mental equilibrium. Some people are going to look at this post and think "oh no, this mantra is going to make us bananas". For them, they'll just have to give it a good try, daily practice, till they get to the aim of meditation (mental equilibrium). With the mental equilibrium, as a natural consequence temporary equilibrium of the psyche should follow. Then the peace and ecstatic state spreads throughout the body. With this, they can verify their temporary awakendness and complete conscious control.

I don't deny this, I am merely saying it is probably the concentration value of the mantra, not the word itself, that holds power. I believe you could just as easily say Ba-nan-as and it would probably generate a similar response, don't you think?

[Stillwater]

isn't that mantra from mysticweb? AKA beelzebub

Faraon or bananas?

[Stillwater]

No offense to anyone affiliated with mysticweb, or the author of the topic, as they bring up many valid points, but I think there is some very odd fascination with older cultures, mainly Egyptian, Sumerian, and the classical (Roman and Greek); people sometimes read more into ancient texts than truly exists, and convince themselves that these ancients had all manner of magic we have "lost". Most of it is likely rubish one has to take with a grain of salt, even if there might be the occasional truth someplace.

It is a curious business to start speculating one's own idea of history from incomplete shreds. I have heard all manner of "Atlantis" stories, and for the life of me, I cannot think of where the information comes from at all. 

Don't mean to be a downer, lol, maybe there is something the ancients knew, no one can really say for sure...

[Job]

The mantra is from Samael Aun Weor. I recommended some books for spiritual development by him in the book review section of this forum. The mantra for astral projection can be found in his voice, but I also have it in my voice (which is newer and sounds more clear).

[CFTraveler]

What is "Faraon"?  Does it have meaning?

It means 'pharaoh' in spanish.

[jub jub]

I agree and disagree with this post.  I have come to the realization that it is not the specific method or technique that really matters with astral projection, it is the skill.  What I mean by this is  that most people go from one method to the next putting there faith in the method and not their skill.

I agree with Hans on this one. It's like anything, the more you practice, the better you get. You have to do what's right for you!