New to site and lucid dreaming obe

[lucidsearcher]

If these questions have already been covered sorry, I am a new member to the site, looking to get into lucid dreaming and looking for a place to start, I have bought a couple of books, Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming, The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep and Seth Dreams and Projections of Consciousness. I am also looking to lucid dream using either Isochronic beats or  binaural beats, or any other technique that would encourage the state. Any offerings and opinions on resources and techniques, books audio anything else that can help?

BTW, on isochronic beats or binaural beats to lucid dream, are they equivalent, or is there a preference?

Now, where is my flashlight...

[Astralsuzy]

Welcome to the site.  I ordered a book, The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep.  What did you think of the book?  I got that book, Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming.  It is a good book.  I remember years ago, I used to say during the day, I know it is a dream.  When I was dreaming, sometimes I would become aware.  I knew I was dreaming.  You could try that.  I am going to try to do that again.  It is a simple thing to do and can be very effective.  Do not expect it to work overnight.  It takes times to get it into your mind.
I use a CD of sounds of rain, thunder and wind.  It helps to get your mind relaxed.  I get the feeling that I am the only person that likes to listen to that CD.  Other people like to listen to beats.  The main thing with ap is to practice.  Meditation is very useful to do help with ap and other things.

[Volgerle]

I use a CD of sounds of rain, thunder and wind.  It helps to get your mind relaxed.  I get the feeling that I am the only person that likes to listen to that CD.  Other people like to listen to beats.

I also have these sounds and I love them! However some of them are also combined with low background beats (Theta or even Delta).

Regarding lucidity training, if you are sitting often before a computer screen I recommend this one:

http://bytered.com/software-realitycheck.html

You can customise it to show a picture of your own choice which I like.

[lucidsearcher]

Hi Astralsuzy, thanks for the suggestions and feedback, I am in the process of reading The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep and I am enjoying it. In Buddhism and especially Tibetian Buddhism, recognizing and manipulating dreams is very important, this is because, when in the bardo state of death occurs there is no body as a reference point, so recognizing and manipulating the dream state helps in training for recognizing the bardo state of death, in Tibetian Buddhism there is the notion that shortly after death, you have the clearest opportunity for enlightenment, as your true, natural state of simplicity arises, before being covered over again due to karmic tendancies, and then the fearsome halucianations appear and the thirst for existence takes over. Indeed, the Buddhist notion of realms is infinate in number and vast in expanse, with this duelistic, "wake" reality also as seen as illusion, just as unreal as the dream state, so which one is more real than the other.

This snippet from wikipedia summerizes the bardo's it well...

The Tibetan word bardo means literally "intermediate state" - also translated as "transitional state" or "in-between state" or "liminal state". In Sanskrit the concept has the name antarabhāva. It is a concept which arose soon after the Buddha's passing, with a number of earlier Buddhist groups accepting the existence of such an intermediate state, while other schools rejected it.

Used loosely, the term "bardo" refers to the state of existence intermediate between two lives on earth. According to Tibetan tradition, after death and before one's next birth, when one's consciousness is not connected with a physical body, one experiences a variety of phenomena. These usually follow a particular sequence of degeneration from, just after death, the clearest experiences of reality of which one is spiritually capable, and then proceeding to terrifying hallucinations that arise from the impulses of one's previous unskillful actions. For the prepared and appropriately trained individuals the bardo offers a state of great opportunity for liberation, since transcendental insight may arise with the direct experience of reality, while for others it can become a place of danger as the karmically created hallucinations can impel one into a less than desirable rebirth.

Volgerle, thanks for your suggestions, I have recordered both Isochronic beats and binaural beats found on youtube and experimenting with techniques suggested in the books, and thanks for the link I will definately try it out.

Cheers

[Astralsuzy]

Thanks for that Volgerle.  I will have a look at the link you sent.  I am glad I am not the only one that uses that CD.
Thanks lucidsearcher for telling me about the book.