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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Astral Consciousness! => Topic started by: orian on August 31, 2023, 06:36:28

Title: Noticing technique and Phosphenes.
Post by: orian on August 31, 2023, 06:36:28
I was reading about the science behind the various lights and shapes we see when Noticing, and the science says they are caused by Phosphenes, which are visual perceptions caused by various stimuli, such as pressure, electrical stimulation, or mechanical stimulation of the retina or visual system. Essentially, they are perceived visual patterns or flashes that occur when there is some form of mechanical or electrical activity affecting the visual system, even in the absence of external light.

Given this, would a blind person be able to Notice, given the necessity for a functioning retina to Notice?
Title: Re: Noticing technique and Phosphenes.
Post by: Xanth on August 31, 2023, 09:17:00
Quote from: orian on August 31, 2023, 06:36:28I was reading about the science behind the various lights and shapes we see when Noticing, and the science says they are caused by Phosphenes, which are visual perceptions caused by various stimuli, such as pressure, electrical stimulation, or mechanical stimulation of the retina or visual system. Essentially, they are perceived visual patterns or flashes that occur when there is some form of mechanical or electrical activity affecting the visual system, even in the absence of external light.
Correct, so it's those patterns you're "noticing".

QuoteGiven this, would a blind person be able to Notice, given the necessity for a functioning retina to Notice?
That's actually a really good question!  I'm not sure.  I guess it would depend upon how blind someone is maybe? 
Title: Re: Noticing technique and Phosphenes.
Post by: orian on August 31, 2023, 10:58:58
This makes me wonder if blind people from birth could astral project at all, seeing as most of the techniques to do so involve visualising, which blind-from-birth people wouldn't be able to do, as they have no concept of shape or colour to create visualisations.
Title: Re: Noticing technique and Phosphenes.
Post by: Nameless on August 31, 2023, 11:34:26
Hi Orian, welcome to the forum. You pose an interesting question, one I've and others have contemplated as well. It would be a fascinating experience for someone to seek out those who are blind and ask them.
Title: Re: Noticing technique and Phosphenes.
Post by: Xanth on August 31, 2023, 14:30:18
Quote from: orian on August 31, 2023, 10:58:58This makes me wonder if blind people from birth could astral project at all, seeing as most of the techniques to do so involve visualising, which blind-from-birth people wouldn't be able to do, as they have no concept of shape or colour to create visualisations.
What you experience while projecting is based upon your life experiences.  Or at least the subjective nature of our projections draw from our life experiences.

As such, it would depend upon when someone became blind or if they were born blind.

If you were born blind, then you would no concept of *seeing*.  That doesn't mean you ciios t dream or project, you would experience within the confines of not seeing. That's all.