i keep phasing back in to the blackness

[astralee]

i can now phase my hand in to the scene and extend it but it still starts to fade in and out off the blackness any tips to keep it going. i kept it going for 30 minutes today.     

[Xanth]

i can now phase my hand in to the scene and extend it but it still starts to fade in and out off the blackness any tips to keep it going. i kept it going for 30 minutes today.

You're confusing a classic separation projection with Phasing.
You don't separate each part of your body in order to phase.  Phasing is akin to falling asleep into a dream and remaining completely consciously aware.  There's no separating anything. 

You can't "phase" a hand into the non-physical, because your hand isn't you.  You are you.  More to the point, you are simply consciousness.  You phase, or you don't phase.

Does that help some?

Don't focus upon individual parts of yourself... just focus on placing yourself (entirely) within the scene. 

[astralee]

oh thats it becouse when i try to walk i visulise my legs rising and falling  but i dont see it like that. i just see the scene not moving. how do you move with out seeing the legs or arms?

[Szaxx]

Look upwards?

[Lionheart]

 Hi Astralee, instead of focusing on the body. Focus on some kind of sport or hobby. Examples, I visualize just shooting a basketball into the 3D darkness/greyness. Pretty soon I see the ball going into a hoop. Then soon I see the hoop, but I now see I am on a actual basketball court, then next I am playing vs another person.
Do you see what's happening here? I have taken a simple act and allowed it to grow into a full scene. My physical focus is nowhere in sight now. Practice this often, even for a couple of seconds during the day during a brief day dream of something. Find some event or sport that you think would help you progress in this. Last year I started by playing hacky sac in the NPR and next thing I knew I was in a full circle with a group of people kicking the sac back and forth. The funny thing is I have never played hacky sac or even kicked a hacky sac in real life, lol. I was in a Phase session last year and it just showed up, so I went with it and allowed it to morph into a full blown scenario. This is what Phasing is all about. Noticing some kind of object or shape and letting it morph as you become totally engrossed in it!  
Good Luck and Safe Travels!  

[astralee]

thanks ill try that.I always wonderd why thinking off  a film scene seems to work better than using awareness techniques like i watched heros on dvd the bit where hes flying and and the camra zooms down the bulding i thought about it with my eyes closed and did the same thing it filled the scene. yet all the awareness techniques dose is just flinches my astral body arms and legs.       

[Lionheart]

yet all the awareness techniques dose is just flinches my astral body arms and legs.       

This is what I call "Phantom Limb Syndrone" and is another signpost of the NPR. It's when you start feeling like your arm or legs are rising or out of position. If you stay with it I'm sure it will lead to a Etheric Projection. But in Phasing you just ignore it and keep your focus completely away from your physical body. The Phantom Limb thing hits while you are attempting to ready yourself for your full focus on Phasing. It stops once your physical focus is completely gone.

[astralee]

thanks now i no im getting some where with both phasing and obes. there both confusing.when thinking there the same thing.

[Lionheart]

thanks now i no im getting some where with both phasing and obes. there both confusing.when thinking there the same thing.

They both lead to the same place, the NPR, if that helps you. It's good to be versed in all methods of AP. I'm sure Etheric Projection and Phasing both have their own pros and cons!  Just try to focus on one of them in separate sessions though, don't try to fuse them into one technique, at least early on in your progress. After you become more versed and comfortable then you can experiment with fusing the two together!

[astralee]

thanks one last thing do you have to be awake for etheric projection or asleep. becouse i some times wake up and see an invisable body moving about my room.it makes me jump but looking back now i think its my etheric body.

[Lionheart]

thanks one last thing do you have to be awake for etheric projection or asleep. becouse i some times wake up and see an invisable body moving about my room.it makes me jump but looking back now i think its my etheric body.

Either works, the most important thing is you need to be Consciously Aware! 

[astralee]

cool thanks ill have go at etheric projection tonght

[Lionheart]

 Todd421757 can really help you with Etheric Projections, this is the technique he is very well versed in!