Does the Clairvoyant vision screen make OBE eazy?

[alpine9]

    I was woundering this question.

  Robert Bruce talks about this in his book Astral Dynamics. He said the 6th chakra will strobe and create a Clairvoyant vision screen that AP into. He says it makes the exit process eazy.

Has anyone had any experiance with this?





 

[Xanth]

Well, first realize that each person is individual... everyone is going to have to find their own way that is "easy".

So if you're looking for an easy way to project, I'm afraid you'll have to shop around for methods/techniques, then try them out one at a time. 

[Astral316]

Well, first realize that each person is individual... everyone is going to have to find their own way that is "easy".

So if you're looking for an easy way to project, I'm afraid you'll have to shop around for methods/techniques, then try them out one at a time.  

Agreed. No technique is easy... you try them all, find bits and pieces of what works/modify to suit your needs, define your process with interpretational wording and claim your method is easy, confuse the next beginner in line because it's not so easy, so they have to try them all... rinse and repeat.

[Tiny]

The change from ocular vision to astral vision occurs when the separation process is already commenced, however i've had it occur that I couldn't exit the body even tho I already had astral vision activated.

kind regards,

Paul

[Timandra]

I have had the strobing many times, but without a vision screen afterwards. And I have had dozens of vision screens (without the strobing) that I couldn't enter because they were too short. So for me it is not easier. 

[Xanth]

What do you guys mean by "vision screen"?

[Timandra]

What do you guys mean by "vision screen"?

I usually call them phasing screens.

[bardips]

i'm not sure what they mean by it but the vision screen is something that appears on your eyelids.

during the day, or when you're not doing any meditative work, it might just appear red as light shines through the eyelids and turns red!

i made a post on this months ago and you deleted it xanth, remember?

during meditation, the stuff on the eyelid starts to move more and turn into swirls and more.

at special times, when certain energy and consciousness conditions have been met, the swirly stuff begins to take shape ... during those meditations, the average person might see flashes or glimpses of objects such as the sun or moon, pyramids, trees, all manner of things appear on the eyelids as if they were painted there.

the most spectacular things appear during very long, serious, deep meditations and during the night.  for many people, they simply continue to show objects (but in greater detail) and for others, the classic AP vortex appears and draws the person away from their body.