yep, it can be dangerous. But so is driving a car. Learn as much as you can first, ask questions and listen carefully and take your time. Just like driving. The dangers can come from mostly projections of your own fears, and in dealing with negative energy and entities. When you start touching the Astral with your mind, astral beings tend to get attracted to you.
There is n0 dangers to Astral Projection or Having a OBE. Nothing is dangerous, nothing can hurt you, you are the strongest being on this earth, there is no possible way of anything harming you, or anything being dangerous to such a natural event such as OBE/soul Travel...
Fear is the only barrier keeping you from discovering your true side, and its the fear right now thats bringing you to ask these sorts of questions. But thats okay, everyones asks these questions, but they also learn quickly that its nothing to be affraid about.
This shouldnt be compared to driving a car lol, Cars are not natural Occurrences, and car can kill you easily. OBE's and AP, soul travel is nothing like a car. There is absolutely no danger in practicing Astral Projection or Soul Travel.
You can't be so sure. Are those thoughts really yours or just mere empty babble learned from books? Only one exception is enough to ruin this cloud-cuckoo-land, so its cannot be proved by any number of experiences.
Let's start by using stories you supposed to build on. Just think on the harm what "negs" are able to do. You can't separate psychological harm from physical injuries. Also, etheric OBEs are tought as week bilocations. If your double is injured, you would suffer instantenously. If you lost some bioplasm you can be sick more easily. Power lines can cause cancer by altering your double as you fly through them. You could bring home some weird things from one of your far journeys then grows symptoms of skizofrenia, etc.
You have to cultivate sober mind to transcend lucid dreams. This irresponsible bubble is tolerated by the experts only, because you're indeed in safe until you can't do RTZ-OBE at will. But you can't do RTZ-OBE at will until you get rid of this belief.
still your friend:
>>> upstream
asteil love is pos dangeruess done to get youse to the bodys energy by exchanging flowieds. then you can trap them
Hi All,
Since Astral journeys are natural events that we all do very regularly when sleeping, it must indicate the relatively safe nature of it.
The neg side of the debate is valid enough, but few people are truly harrased by them, and, it is only the energy of fear that they want from you anyway.
So they also help you learn how to move through those fears as you experience more journeying. This indicates the more effective way to deal with their intentions toward you... Love them for helping bring the lesson to you.
As for all the information about etheric bodies being injured etc. That could only happen if it is something that you (the Soul you are) chose to experience this time...in which case any apparent injury would not and could not be permanent, they could only be part of your plan this time. So, in the big picture it is not worth worrying about now !
There is no substitute for having the experience of something, so get out there and experience for yourself. Fear is a normal part of the process of astral projection while aware, it is very natural. So, do it even if you are feeling fear... and you will learn quickly.
And lastly, astral travel and soul journey are different. In the astral, your awareness is in the astral energy body you use to move around in those realms. The soul level awareness is formless, beyond the astral layers and closely associated with your Higher-Self (the Great Soul you are).
Hope this was of some help.
Love Always. [:)]
Sorry if I offended anyone with 'My' words.
But basicly I am not going to argue on a topic that shouldn't be argued over, but Ill say one more thing, your astral experience is what you make of it. You wish to continue to tell people it can be dangerous then go for it because most likely you or anyone who 'thinks' that. . . Creates fear. And shouldnt be projecting.
I try to project at least 3 times a day, I am constantly learning from my experiences. and Tayesin is right, you learn from the fear, I accepted it the first time I projected and heard mimic'ed voices of my parents in the other room yelling at me in this evil butt tone lol. lol lets not forget, the mimic'ed scream of my dog dying, lol that was terrible lol.
But I learned, and there is nothing dangerous, oh and yes, these are my words upstream, and I read 'books' all the time about this thats how i 'learned'.
"If your double is injured, you would suffer instantenously"
do you not know we are immortal, we arnt plugged into some machine like matrix man. I'll tell yea, I've had my fair share of 'not concentrating' falls from the RTZ, I be flying, and I fall from a high up lol, hit the ground, and I'm still typing today.
Nothing can harm you.
well, there are dangers i think, not that one shouldn't try to learn a little about their universe. All of you were right by saying that your fear propogates fear, so one aspect of astral travel i think is conquering those fears. Still, and although i know it happens rarely, everyones experiences are different and some are scary. Someone of exceptionally brave values and spirit might never have a problem; someone with pre-existing psychological problems looking for God might mess himself up even more. To the best of my knowledge the fears are thoughtforms generated by you and humanity in general. They are phantom dreams (it's the plane of Thought after all).
there are dangers, but your higher self knows how to handle things, therefore thats why you must have trust in yourself and KNOW nothing can happen to you. You are the supreme being of this universe, you dont even know it, because people are trapped in this box full of fearful thoughts like "a boogy man attacking me in the astral" lol.
nothing can harm you, if anything did arise, your higher self would take care of it, even if it means you not projecting for awhile.
You think danger, you'll get it, Your "Astral" is what you make of it. Soul Travel/Astral Projection/OBE's is an individual experience, a realization of survival. It is an inner experience through which comes beauty and love of all life(not fear). It cannot be experienced in rituals or ceremonies, nor bottle in creeds(cannot be explored if you fear everything).
I agree, knowing yourself fully is of optimal importance. Going in expecting boogeymen will get you boogeymen, dwellers on the threshold, and other phantoms of the mind. Your higher self indeed is always in control, and yes, it is of phenomenal cosmic power. We're so large and we don't even know it. :)
narfellus,
You are ready to project safely! :)
But theres one thing though what does "DANI" have to say about this, hey guy, you been reading about this my man?
give me your input, since your the one that created this thread :)
And if it can be dangerous then in what ways?