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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Astral Consciousness! => Topic started by: latentsins on June 19, 2009, 14:48:51

Title: Problems - with Rope and Imagining
Post by: latentsins on June 19, 2009, 14:48:51
Hey guys, this questions prolly been asked a million times and there are answers on the forum but I just can't find those post. So I am apologizing one time :)

My problem,

I am trying the Robert Bruce method (http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/rbruce1.html)
I like it, I am feeling some response faster than any other methods I tried before
but the problem I am having is he says to Imagine your climbing the rope and not visualize
I always those imagining and visualizing is the samething,
so I have an kinda stuck with that I don't know if I am visualizing or imagining
and do i need to imagine my hands climbing or imagine me climbing from a perspective view?

another is, do I need to when using the rope method be lying straight with my hands to my side
cuz i like to be in my hammock (yes i'm from the Caribbean, I like to lie by the seaside in the outside of my yard)

Can someone who has experience help me out please?
Title: Re: Problems - with Rope and Imagining
Post by: radman32 on June 19, 2009, 15:03:00
I'd just try what ever feels most natural, i try and lay straight w/ my arms laying down. And at first i visualize from a perspective, then i'll proceed to actually imagine my arms moving and straining to get up and my astral arms will eventually proceed w/ the same movements.
Title: Re: Problems - with Rope and Imagining
Post by: latentsins on June 19, 2009, 15:11:48
thanks Radman32

my other question is, when your imagining (still not too sure how to imagine)
do you imagine your hands coming out of your body while lying and pulling up
or  do you imagine your somewhere else trying to climb up the rope?
or it doesn't matter?
Title: Re: Problems - with Rope and Imagining
Post by: radman32 on June 19, 2009, 17:07:10
I'd say the visualization at first is where u imagine just looking at yourself, in your thoughts, climbing, then once you've induced your way in, then the imagination thing is right, then it shoud actually feel like ur arms are climbing, along w/ your whole body
Title: Re: Problems - with Rope and Imagining
Post by: Xanth on June 22, 2009, 12:09:44
I'd just like to interject quickly here.  :)
Imagination and Visualization are two sides of the same coin.

http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/new-energy-ways/no-visualization.html

Robert Bruce explains it more eloquently than I ever could.  LoL