Robin in Focus 23

[Serenity1]

Awsome and beautiful, and you mentioned my mother-in-law too!!LOL


"the mother's anger and fears which dominated the family."

Looking forward to learning to do what you do.
Thanks heaps Ginny[]

[Ginny]

quote:Originally posted by Serenity1

Awsome and beautiful, and you mentioned my mother-in-law too!!LOL


"the mother's anger and fears which dominated the family."

Looking forward to learning to do what you do.
Thanks heaps Ginny[]

LOL! Hey Harvey, no special skills required. The only difficulty in learning to retrieve and explore is thinking it's difficult...that it requires great expertise or years of whatever.

Thanks and see you in the afterlife,

Ginny

[clandestino]

thanks for another great post Ginny !

have a great week,
Mark

[Ginny]

quote:Originally posted by clandestino

thanks for another great post Ginny !

have a great week,
Mark

Thanks Mark--take care,

Ginny

[Nick]

Ginny,

Your new post inspires because, apart from the learning and knowledge one receives from exploring the astral, retrieval involves service to others.

Very best,

[Ginny]

quote:Originally posted by Nick

Ginny,

Your new post inspires because, apart from the learning and knowledge one receives from exploring the astral, retrieval involves service to others.

Very best,

Thanks Nick. Being of service to others in the afterlife was and still remains a passion for me (kinda nice to know I can help someone out now and then before I kick the bucket). When I first got started I had no idea that retrieving would lead to the inner growth and personal happiness I've experienced. So, everyone wins: my kind of ball game---:o).

Have a good one and much love,

Ginny

[Lasher]

quote:Originally posted by Ginny
Thanks Nick. Being of service to others in the afterlife was and still remains a passion for me (kinda nice to know I can help someone out now and then before I kick the bucket). When I first got started I had no idea that retrieving would lead to the inner growth and personal happiness I've experienced. So, everyone wins: my kind of ball game---:o).

Have a good one and much love,

Ginny

Hi Ginny,

Thank you so much for sharing these retrieval experiences.  They are very heartwarming and inspirational.

I have a question, if you don't mind my asking.

In your descriptions, a guide usually appears and brings you to the one in need of help.  The guide fills you in on the basic information, and then you help to transport the person to where they need to go.

My question is this.  Can the guides do this all by themselves if they want to, or do they need a person like yourself who is still alive in the physical world?  I was curious if they were allowing you to do the retrieval to help in your own spiritual evolution, or if they actually cannot do it without help from a living person.

Thanks for any information on this.  []

Lasher

[Ginny]

quote:Originally posted by Lasher


My question is this.  Can the guides do this all by themselves if they want to, or do they need a person like yourself who is still alive in the physical world?  I was curious if they were allowing you to do the retrieval to help in your own spiritual evolution, or if they actually cannot do it without help from a living person.

Thanks for any information on this.  []

Hi Lasher,

When I began retrieving I assumed Helpers were 'all-powerful, all-knowing'..and wondered too about why the assistance of those still in the physical was needed. So I set out to understand and from what I've experienced I've learned that Helpers are just people, in the nonphysical, who've usually been human, who desire to just want to help others There. They do seem to have a greater ability to know what's going on There, perhaps because of their level of awareness, but they aren't all-knowing, all-seeing perfect individuals (whatever perfect means I don't know--lol--it's a word that makes no sense to me). And secondly, I learned that the area of consciousness Monroe initially labeled as Focus 23 is an area that seems to house the deceased *who don't know they've died*...and so they continue life in a mock-up, if you will, of the life they knew in the physical because they think they're still IN the physical. And because of such thinking they're usually totally unaware of anyone also residing in the nonphysical (beliefs have power).....but they can detect/recognize someone who happens along who has something in their energetic makeup that says "still-in-the-physical" to them.

The Helper I was with had most likely been trying to get the child's attention for some time, but as long as Robin was assuming he was still in the physical, he wasn't picking up on her energy/presence at all. His frame of mind said, "waiting for parents, afraid of strangers"...and that's what he was experiencing.

Once I have befriended a stuck individual or at least gotten their attention...and then introduce them to a Helper so they can then become aware of more than just themselves in their isolation and me, they're no longer stuck.  A Helper normally knows a great deal about them (at times they're deceased family, friends) and takes over from there...which is why I usually work with them: they've not only taught me a great deal but I much prefer Helpers take over, once they're able to, considering what the stuck person has already been through.

Hope I've answered your question, Lasher--:o)....and much love,

Ginny

[Lasher]

quote:Originally posted by Ginny
Hope I've answered your question, Lasher--:o)

You certainly did, Ginny!  Thanks so much for taking the time.  That makes perfect sense.  []

Lasher

[Ginny]

Hi everyone,

After spending some time relaxing in the 3D blackness, enjoying being lazy about where I wanted to go, I then decided to help in a retrieval and perceived a female presence (a Helper) immediately approach from my far right and stop just to my left. I could feel that she was calm and ready to get down to business, so as I briefly tossed to her the 'okay' for us to get going I was then perceiving the two of us moving quite fast...to the left, down and then straight ahead. I never felt any motion, just understood we were zipping along as if on a rollercoaster.

We stopped in a dark place and for a second I saw the back of a short man standing several feet away. The Helper got my attention by moving her hands near her face, communicating something to me. At first I thought she was indicating the man was blind as she pointed her right index finger toward her eyes, but I then felt I was somehow not perceiving correctly, so I shut my nonphysical sight down, remained calm and placed the intent to open up to all perception of nonphysical origin.

It was as if someone turned a light on as I could then perceive the man standing on a sidewalk or some kind of walkway, in a state of agitation. I was still standing behind him as he continued hurriedly looking around and it felt he was waiting for someone. I then got  the information that he was actually a child and I moved my attention to the Helper and said, huh? Two more words followed, "Downes Syndrome", and I then understood.

I moved closer to him and as I said 'hello there' I  made sure the greeting was couched in a feeling of warm love. He spun around and  was instantly experiencing a dual emotional situation: he wanted so much to have contact with someone, anyone, and yet he was afraid of strangers.  He was quite short, heavy-set, with a head larger than usual and what I had initially assumed was baldness was a close-cropped haircut...blond-brown hair shaved close to his scalp. I told him my name and asked his and got back, "Robin". I knelt down in front of him and remarked what a neat name that was. He nodded, agreeing with me that it was a good name, it was his name.  He seemed confused, lost and terribly lonely.  He just stared at me as he kept nervously playing with his fingers. I asked if he was waiting for someone and he nodded again. I then got from the Helper that his father's name had been Ed. I could feel from Robin that although he was dying to hug me, he was determined to wait for Dad, so I casually said, "Oh I know your father. You can go with me now if you want. You don't want to be here anymore, Robin. It's too lonely here." I then just knew that he liked riding piggyback so I turned and encouraged him to leave with me. He climbed onto my back and the three of us were then moving away from F23.

We arrived at what felt like an outdoor scene with buildings nearby, in F27, and as Robin was carefully greeted by others I asked the Helper for more information on him. What I got was that he had been born to parents who had felt, due to their religious beliefs, that Robin's Downe's Syndrome had been some form of punishment on them. His mother had never been able to accept him for who and what he was and had felt a toxic kind of shame, embarrassment and had spoken often of God's punishment and hell. His father had been more understanding of Robin but had not dealt with the mother's anger and fears which dominated the family. Apparently Robin had heard a great deal about 'hell' and 'punishment' but had never been able to really conceptualize it all. I thought about the idea that Robin had been so utterly dependent on what his parents had believed about him and  said it was good he had not ended up in that 'hell'. She said his father's benign nature had somehow cancelled out his mother's determined beliefs, leaving Robin in a confused no-man's-land when he left the physical.  Robin also didn't have it in his nature to ever be attracted to any kind of hell. When I asked the Helper how Robin had died she communicated, 'a heart attack'. I then understood he had been a teenager when this happened and as I was about to say that seemed highly unusual I got that at birth a number of psychical problems had accompanied his syndrome, one being a heart problem. I then asked her if his father was in the area and she hesitated...finally saying not at this time. I had the feeling Ed was somewhere else in the afterlife dealing with his own issues and that Robin would be just fine with the people he was now with. I accepted this, thanked her twice for being with me in a retrieval, and headed for my treehouse in F27.

Much love,

Ginny