Seeing bright colours & patterns while dozing off/meditating?

[Shivers]

For many years I've had many experiences of seeing objects and patterns(bright balloons, checkerboards, confetti,etc) as I've been dozing off to sleep or deep in meditation.  These patterns and objects look so vividly real and quite often I would feel my consciousness appearing to expand(very weird feeling as though my mind is stretching) and there would be a feeling that at any time I could just slip out of my body.
Has anyone else had similar experiences or is able to give an idea as to what this is about, as I've never read about this in any article to do with astral travel?

[Lionheart]

 They are called Hypnogog Imagery. These are one of the "sign posts" of Astral Travel. These are perfectly normal, yet a lot of people don't experience them.
Safe Travels! 

[proyect_outzone]

Could be. But it sounds uncommon for hypnagogic images (Too long the same seen things and these are not very variable, colors are described as "bright"). So it sounds more like some other kind of effect.

Look some of your colors similar to this? (like moving clouds with different shapes, can form also round "tunnels" or enlargening spots): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSKD9HOm9f0

[Shivers]

The colours are similar, Proyect.  Everything is very vivid to the point where it feels like looking at a photo or video and the objects seem to morph/change into other shapes.

I think it may be hypnogogic images and found some info on this- http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/hypnagogic_imagery_and_projections-t2002.0.html
on the relation between hypnogogic imagery and astral travel.  But then, I'm still so new at all this..It would be nice to have some control over being able to AP.

[proyect_outzone]

Ok, when the colors are similar to the video, can you exclude for shure the hypnagogic images.

You see some better and cooler stuff. I think, that oyu see different kinds of visible energy experiences. There are several kinds of them (I know more than 30!) with different behavior and properties.

The most common are the vivid colors from the video (can have many colors). This is, what most define as Aura. But it is just one "part" or "layer" or "energy level" of it.

Aura is not the only thing, what can be seen. There are many more patterns and behaviors possible. All have one together. They are supernatural or psychic perceptions of energy and (rarely) transdimensional effects.

[CFTraveler]

I believe there is a difference between the 'patterns' and 'regular' hypnagogics.  I for one only see the patterns when waking up (hypnopompia) and never when going to sleep- usually my hypnagogics are 'landcape related' or what seems like closeup flashes of things that exist- people, trees, rooms, wallpaper, etc.) when I get the patterns is usually when I come back from a dream- I will be looking at the dream scene and when it fades what is left behind is the pattern, which can be small like closeup enlargement of a fabric, texture (like a stucco wall) or patterns like mandalas, or glyphs.
I have had people tell me they've seen them on the way 'in' but usually when listening to binaurals.
I don't know what it is but it sure is interesting.

[proyect_outzone]

Yes, i sayd it already. They are not hypnagogic images.

These patterns are for most people visible in sleep near states. Most people see them first, when trying to make an out of body experience. But these things can be seen also with eyes open during very slight relaxation till very deep relaxation. Many of these visible things are bound to locations of the physical world (like hands, people, locations in vincinity of astral beings).

They have different possible causes. Most of them are the own Aura. Sometimes are this Astralbeeings, transdimensional effects, free floating energy and other stuff.

I have analyzed these visible things over many years and think, these are the some of the most interesting things, which can be experienced while beeing in the physical body.

[dreamingod]

For many years I've had many experiences of seeing objects and patterns(bright balloons, checkerboards, confetti,etc) as I've been dozing off to sleep or deep in meditation.  These patterns and objects look so vividly real and quite often I would feel my consciousness appearing to expand(very weird feeling as though my mind is stretching) and there would be a feeling that at any time I could just slip out of my body.
Has anyone else had similar experiences or is able to give an idea as to what this is about, as I've never read about this in any article to do with astral travel?

During the daytime while meditation outside in my backyard:
* After ~3minutes I open my eyes and usually perceive my lawn change colour from being ordinary green (depending on daylight)
  to bright vivid indigo-green. The lawn takes on a fractal appearance; areas where the lawn is quite patchy becomes filled
  with repeating grass patterns. With intent, I can then blur the scenery. When I blink my eyes this perception goes away.
* During deeper meditative states, I sometimes perceive the physical scenery filled with bright, small, fine white zig-zag like energy noise
   - a bit like bright white confetti.
  I also feel a sense of expansion, my mind stretching and I feel momentarily light-headed.

At night time, in my bedroom in complete darkness:
* Without meditating, I can normally perceive (with eyes opened) numerous dark crimson spirals, overlapping, moving and swirling in front of me.
  Sometimes if I want to, I can perceive a fine dark-grey checker-board effect.
* Without mediating and before going to sleep I can close my eyes and perceive within a few minutes
  images of a scene emerging from my minds eye. I have suceeded moving into phasing from here.
* During and after meditation (for a 3-5 minutes) I usually experience a light show in my minds eye:
  pulsating circles of light continually radiating from the center and moving outwards, normally indigo, dark yellow and sometimes green-yellow.
  I can then project this light show into my surroundings with both my eyes opened. When I do this the feeling is intensified,
  because I see and feel pulsating light waves touching me with a very subtle pressure -like soft wind.
-> From this state, after I close my eyes, settle myself in bed, and allow myself to get entranced by the deminishing light show,
   I can slowly move into phasing.

At night time, in my bedroom in very dim lighting -enough to see the outline of your hand and fingers:
* I see a numerous fuzzy, fast-moving magnetic like, tiny fine shadowy lines outlining my fingers and hands.
  With intention I can temporarily morph my fingers by lengthening, shortening, thickening the digits.
  One night I woke up my husband to demonstrate this. He saw the same thing and tried it on himself; it works.

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[proyect_outzone]

During the daytime while meditation outside in my backyard:
* After ~3minutes I open my eyes and usually perceive my lawn change colour from being ordinary green (depending on daylight)
  to bright vivid indigo-green. The lawn takes on a fractal appearance; areas where the lawn is quite patchy becomes filled
  with repeating grass patterns. With intent, I can then blur the scenery. When I blink my eyes this perception goes away.

Typical daylight observing effects. Try to observe longer and try also to change the direction where you view.

* During deeper meditative states, I sometimes perceive the physical scenery filled with bright, small, fine white zig-zag like energy noise
  - a bit like bright white confetti.
  I also feel a sense of expansion, my mind stretching and I feel momentarily light-headed.

Could you describe it more exactly? Its hard to identify this experience.

At night time, in my bedroom in complete darkness:
* Without meditating, I can normally perceive (with eyes opened) numerous dark crimson spirals, overlapping, moving and swirling in front of me.

That could be the "common" Aura colors, nut im not really shure, because you described them at a other point.  If these spirals behave similar, they could be such. Give a more exactly description of them.

Sometimes if I want to, I can perceive a fine dark-grey checker-board effect.

Is it real geometric with straight lines? If yes, it is a really rare effect. I self oberved such geometric effects only a few times. These are really important, because these geometrics can be caused by new physical laws.

Looks the checkerboard somehow like that (right side)? (A very fine structur, made of slowly moving lines in 2 layers crossing in a angle of exactly 90°)
http://www.out-of-real.com/obeneu/erlebnisbilder/linien.JPG

* Without mediating and before going to sleep I can close my eyes and perceive within a few minutes
  images of a scene emerging from my minds eye. I have suceeded moving into phasing from here.

These are hypnagogic images.

* During and after meditation (for a 3-5 minutes) I usually experience a light show in my minds eye:
  pulsating circles of light continually radiating from the center and moving outwards, normally indigo, dark yellow and sometimes green-yellow.
  I can then project this light show into my surroundings with both my eyes opened. When I do this the feeling is intensified,
  because I see and feel pulsating light waves touching me with a very subtle pressure -like soft wind.

That are definitive aura colors. These are the often mentioned colors, which some people can see. Mostly is this seen during OBE attempts without knowing what it is. The pressure is a energy sensation, which comes from these colors.

-> From this state, after I close my eyes, settle myself in bed, and allow myself to get entranced by the deminishing light show,
   I can slowly move into phasing.

Its quite relaxing to watch these colors, but try also to focus on them just to watch them.

At night time, in my bedroom in very dim lighting -enough to see the outline of your hand and fingers:
* I see a numerous fuzzy, fast-moving magnetic like, tiny fine shadowy lines outlining my fingers and hands.
  With intention I can temporarily morph my fingers by lengthening, shortening, thickening the digits.
  One night I woke up my husband to demonstrate this. He saw the same thing and tried it on himself; it works.

You are the first one (apart from myself), who i know, who saw also this effect and described it. I see these things too. They are really cool and look and behave absolutely like magnetic fields would. This effect is one of the most important effects, which can be seen. It is a very detailled effect. And it is important, because it verifies, that supernatural things have also laws like our physical world (physics,...).

I have drawn a year ago two videos of these effects (not really good, but enough to recognize it, if seen):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KMWvNGs4PQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFNuI5qjEM0

The common Aura colors behaves similar if watched correct till it gets more detailled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zusdWQHxjiw

If you know more visible things, i would be happy to hear them! Its always nice to get things verified by others.

[dreamingod]

That could be the "common" Aura colors, nut im not really shure, because you described them at a other point.  If these spirals behave similar, they could be such. Give a more exactly description of them.

Imagine seeing in the dark room, many dark crimson concentric circles (close parallel lines continually moving from center to outwards) in a synchronised rythmn -like the water ripples. Then imagine many overlapping ripples. Each concentric circle ripple moves independent from each other.
Normally 30cm - 50cm in diameter to the outer most perecived boundary where these lines start to diminish.
I chose the below image because of the perspective not being on an angle. Just image more ripples and closer concentric lines.

Could you describe it more exactly? Its hard to identify this experience.

During deeper meditative states, I sometimes perceive the physical scenery filled with bright, small, fine white zig-zag like energy noise
  - a bit like bright white confetti.
   ***more like seeing bright white rain lines, except that these lines are not completely straight and the rain lines do not fall down to the ground;
         they just fizzle in the scenery.
         Another analogy, like watching high definition movie on TV with some noise overlay. The bright light rain-like effect is the noise overlay.

Looks the checkerboard somehow like that (right side)? (A very fine structur, made of slowly moving lines in 2 layers crossing in a angle of exactly 90°)
http://www.out-of-real.com/obeneu/erlebnisbilder/linien.JPG

The fine dark-grey checker-board effect which I sometimes perceive in the dark looks more  like the bottom-right of the linked picture.


Thanks proyect_outzone, for your views. Please share your experiences  

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[proyect_outzone]

Imagine seeing in the dark room, many dark crimson concentric circles (close parallel lines continually moving from center to outwards) in a synchronised rythmn -like the water ripples. Then imagine many overlapping ripples. Each concentric circle ripple moves independent from each other.
Normally 30cm - 50cm in diameter to the outer most perecived boundary where these lines start to diminish.
I chose the below image because of the perspective not being on an angle. Just image more ripples and closer concentric lines.

I know two similar effects, but still not this what you describe. I know circles, which enlarges continuously to a small size, while getting fainter till they disappear.

And i know straight lines, which run like waves. Several layers of such waves can overlap. These are always grey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqa5nn3F6BI

But i dont know circular waves.

During deeper meditative states, I sometimes perceive the physical scenery filled with bright, small, fine white zig-zag like energy noise
   - a bit like bright white confetti.
    ***more like seeing bright white rain lines, except that these lines are not completely straight and the rain lines do not fall down to the ground;
          they just fizzle in the scenery.
          Another analogy, like watching high definition movie on TV with some noise overlay. The bright light rain-like effect is the noise overlay.

A rare effect. I know it too. But i know not much:
   
(1.2.2.1.3.5) One can see rarely dark points in front of the colors of the Aura 2.  The density of the very small points varies. They can occur densely packed or as a few single points.  Their behavior is reminiscent of pixels of poorly edited digital movies. These points are very sharp and move relatively independently of each other. Flows are hardly recognizable.

(1.2.2.1.3.5.1) Only one time sighted was a variant of this mass of points. This mass consisted of bright and dark points. These points were also significantly larger. On the border between the mass of points points and the free field of view was allways a stripe of colors of the Aura 2.

The fine dark-grey checker-board effect which I sometimes perceive in the dark looks more  like the bottom-right of the linked picture.

Yes, this is what i meant. The others are just common waves like in the video. Thats great, that this experience is now also verified.

Thanks proyect_outzone, for your views. Please share your experiences

The pure and not assorted mention with accurate description (what is needed to understand, what is meant) would be several pages of posts long and take some full working days to enter (even only the visible things need 40.000 letters). But i have written already all, what i know and what i have experienced, on my homepage (in the maintext-document). It is the only useful way to share them without specific questioning.

If you got specific questions or if you want to know about specific things, feel free to ask and i will answer them.

[dreamingod]

I know two similar effects, but still not this what you describe. I know circles, which enlarges continuously to a small size, while getting fainter till they disappear.

And i know straight lines, which run like waves. Several layers of such waves can overlap. These are always grey.

- In very dim light, these overlapping, continually outward moving concentric circular ripples (from centre)
   are usually grey in colour.

but

- Lately these ripples appear dark crimson to me in the absence of light.
  Approximate colour below:
 

[proyect_outzone]

These circles seem to be very interesting. It could be, that the arer similar to the lines, but i dont think that they are identic, because the lines (waves) are absolutely straight.

Maybe i will see these circles in future. I will look out for them.

Thanks for your detailled derscription.

[Szaxx]

Hi
If you research scintillating scotoma you may see some similarities. Your vids reminded me of it. Its a form of migraine and is caused by a grouping of fired up neurons in the back of the brain and as they travel towards the front the vision is impaired or totally lost. The grainy cross hatch effect is also part of it too. The noise is sometimes called snow and can linger for days after an attack Its debilitating and there are other effects like temporary loss of memory and you cant think as normal, its can cause numbness and paralysis and its a grump.
If you have anything like this with these images then thie could be the reason.

[proyect_outzone]

I got sometimes migraines with aura, and know this phenomenon. It can not really be confused with the real visible energy experiences. The most animations and pictures of these scotomas in the internet are not really correct.

What one can see in reality reminds not on straight lines, it reminds on the Blood vessels of the eyes, especially when big areas are affected. The light flashes in form of blood vessels, and then after the flashy light effects is gone, is there a "hole" in the field of view (patches, where the eye is partly till completly blind, the local blindness leads to the double images, fogs and other illusions, because the brain trys to fill the gaps). This hole goes slowly in minutes or longer away. And then comes (mostly) the real headache. And yes, the ability to think and memorize properly is during this so called Aura also strongly affected.

This all can definitly not be confused with seeing supernatural stuff. Not knowing about lead rather to a fast run to the doctor than to the search of a supernatural explantation (panic to be blind soon or have other illnesses). Not to forget: Viewing of supernatural stuff can be "switched off" by focus and/or stops by interruption of focus, scotoma can not be "switched off". Viewing of supernatural stuff makes no blind patches in the eyes.

[CFTraveler]

There's all kind of scotomas- mine look like iridescent glittering triangles, and they do end up forming a semicircle, which I suppose encircles the eyes.  But they're definitely not natural looking.

[proyect_outzone]

Even then are these still not confusable with visible supernatural stuff.

There are still differences.

-Scotomas can not be switched off, while visible supernatural things can alwas be switched off, if one needs to see the physical enviroment.
-supernatural stuff creates never a blind spot
-many supernatural stuffs are bound to physical enviroment or even on special things of this enviroment (only liveforms,...) and not projected on the eyes like scotomas and synestesia.
-supernatural stuff allows supernatural perceiving. (like detecting lifeforms in absolute darkness or two persons see the same astral being at the same location and the same time).
-while the by scotoma and synestesia perceived things depend on different things which seem to differ from person to person, are real supernatural perceptions and their behavior identic from person to person and depend only from the species of the viewed thing.

[CFTraveler]

Absolutely, in my experience.  But my mother, for example, freaked out every time she started getting one, thinking she was psychically attacked (or something) and then would calm down when she realized what it was.  So really, even though the perception may be the same, the belief system of the experiencer makes a difference in how they react.

[kirolak]

Hi, sorry to leap in here but if I may share this -  I also suffer from scintillating scotoma & have episodes of paralysis when I simply drop to the floor ; I have hemiplegic migraine attacks & have to take unpleasant meds to ward off the attacks.  It works to an extent.

I can usually tell when an attack is coming, from the "alien writing" I can see in gold on a black background, superimposed over everything with eyes open OR closed; or else jagged, serrated half-circles -  which are standard migraine prescursors.

But this is completely different from the visions I see when meditating or just lying resting - these are clear; like a well-tuned TV screen.  I always suspect lights of any kind to be related to my "affliction", but possibly that is wrong. If you google Dr Klaus Podoll you'll see the amazing "migraine art" that sufferers have produced over the years. In fact, some people have proposed that migraine could be a kundalini-related "side-effect", & part of an evolutionary experience - not sure if I'm making myself clear. . . .though I certainly could do without any throwing up & pain in the head which sometimes (but rarely) occur.

I'm sure my family is embarrassed by my behaviour sometimes, when I stop to admire a wall surface which is vibrating, or stare into the sky at the beautiful patterns I see.  I've never decided whether this is migraine-related or not; I can "stop" seeing these by an effort of will & reminding myself that I need to see "consensus reality" in order to function.  I also see "through" my closed eyelids sometimes, in a dark room. . . another of my frequent meditation experiences is seeing the "yin-yang" symbol turning slowly.

It's oddly comforting to know there are others here with similar experiences.

[proyect_outzone]

@kirolak
You have written about superimposing alien writing. I know a german forum user with the same problem. Would you describe your writing more exactly please? (How it occurs and how it looks and moves) I think he will be lucky to hear about, that others have this problem too and hes not alone.

Edit: Correction, there are now 3 users, the thread was active while i was not active in this forum. So hes not alone anmore.

[Lionheart]

 Kirolak, you have posted in another thread here today that you have done energy work for years. Well, what you are experiencing "comes with the territory" to say. Just last night I was out admiring the beautiful Northern Lights here being created by the recent Solar Storm and I was amazed to see that after watching the sky for a couple of minutes I could see other things like little rainbow color flashes. Well actuallly they looked like little rainbow orbs, they were falling all over the place. It was quite a sight. Since I have been Phasing, I see writing where there is none, I am constantly seeing light orbs out of the corner of my eye and even shadows moving where there is nothing there. I don't have anything medically wrong with my eyesight, this is all just things that now occur on a daily basis that I experience since opening my eyes to conscious Astral Travel.  I am loving every minute of it, you never know what's going to happen next. 

[Szaxx]

Hi,
We should start a scotoma club. Ive never known so many sufferers in one spot, is it related.......

[CFTraveler]

Hi,
We should start a scotoma club. Ive never known so many sufferers in one spot, is it related.......

Interesting correlation.  I wonder if people that get them get more of the 'mandala type' hypnopomps....

[kirolak]

Wow, yes - I do see the most glorious mandalas! But for some reason if I look at a physical pattern that catches my eye (like patterns made by the waves on beach sand, especially when it's misty) I  have to concentrate to stay in the body. At times I feel I'm on the verge of slipping out when I see the "alien writing" - it like nothing I've ever seen, I can't describe it & have no drawing talent) But it seems to be sentient, & is gold in colour.