Self Hypnosis 4 Astral Projection

[Sheena]

Does anybody here use  self hypnosis for astral Projection?

I have used Self-Hypnosis and have been sucessful with it.  I recorded my own tapes and worked with relaxing myself and hypnotising myself, for a few weeks and had lots of clear astral projections.

This was about 7 years ago when I was serious aobut hypnotising myself.
I am starting to do it again, and I am wondering:

Is it the hypnosis that is really helping me astral project, or is it Concentration, on the hypnosis that is really helping me astral project?

It must be both.

I have always liked to think of my mind and subconscious as a computer that I own and am able to program to function to my liking.

[bjb1234]

Its just your subconscious mind been programmed with suggestions you WANT to accept, the relaxation will help bypass your critical factor (if theres no fear there) to help you project.

May i ask are your projections spontanious? or controlled?

I bought a hypnosis mp3 for astral projection, ive played it a few times but to be honest this guy bores the crap out of me!!!!

His induction seems to take foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... i just cant listen to that everyday.

I hope to become a hypnotherapist within a year or 2. While at college and UNI.

Id like to hear more about your experiences with hypnosis and out of body experiences.

I am yet to project out of body but am desperate to find a method which i can make work for myself.  As i am also writing a book on astral projection and a specific religion.  (Just using the knowledge i know and details of other peoples experiences).

[Sheena]

My astral projections have mainly been controlled, but lots have been spontaneous, I"ll explain:

The controlled projections are when I use techniques such as staying aware of my physical body, and witnessing it fall asleep all while staying mental aware. The second my body falls asleep, I observe my astral body un-hook from the physical and I will myself up and out.

Another way I have controlled my projections is to become aware in dreaming.(a Lucid Dream) Sometimes the lucid dreaming is spontaneous, but I will consciously use a technique to turn it into a clear astral projection. Such as alowing myself to Know, that if I am Lucid dreaming that I am in a house, then I will just Know that I am in my astral body which is still hovering inside of my physical body, and when I fly up through the roof of this dream house, then I will see that in turn,  I am projecting from the "roof" of my body.

This takes some experience of knowing the differnce between subconscious projections and actual astral objects and landscapes.

The spontaneous projections I have had are actually not too spontaneous because it usualy happens when I am applying tons of effort to astral project, but feel unsuccessful as I may get tired, loose concentration, and fall asleep, and feel the next day that I have failed. But then days later when I am not trying , I have found myself suddenly projecting:  So I say it is spontaneous, but really it is just an unexpected & delayed result from all my previous effort.

I bought a hypnosis mp3 for astral projection, ive played it a few times but to be honest this guy bores the crap out of me!!!!

His induction seems to take foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... i just cant listen to that everyday.

Though, I bet you can and certainly Do listen to Your Own Voice everyday. ~IMO you are better off creating your very own hypnosis recording for astral projection. There can be no better hypnotic voice to your subconscious than your very own!

I would liket to share more on this hypnosis 4 astral projection soon. As for right now, I feel a sleepy wave coming on as I have come home form work in the early afternoon. I good time for an Astral projection practice 

-Sheena

[Jacque]

I've been wanting to do this myself. 

Right now, I've been only focusing on relaxing my body with self hypnosis, mainly my eyes since I hold so much tension in them, and they always try to 'peek' at the hypnogogic imagery.

I believe it would be possible to simply give yourself a keyword, and be there at some point.

Also, I can't get with those long winded induction techniques.  It need not take more than a minute to achieve hypnosis, or rather, the the state in which hypnotic suggestions can take place, ie, bypassing the critical thinking faculty of the conscious mind.

[Sheena]

I've been wanting to do this myself. 

Right now, I've been only focusing on relaxing my body with self hypnosis, mainly my eyes since I hold so much tension in them, and they always try to 'peek' at the hypnogogic imagery.

I believe it would be possible to simply give yourself a keyword, and be there at some point.

Also, I can't get with those long winded induction techniques.  It need not take more than a minute to achieve hypnosis, or rather, the the state in which hypnotic suggestions can take place, ie, bypassing the critical thinking faculty of the conscious mind.

That's really good that you are using self hypnosis to relax the body. That is #1. Most people say they can't concentrate to astral project, but the more I talk to them, it is really the Relaxing that is the biggest p[roblem. First comes first; you Must know how to relax the body.

A lot of the time, Ihave the determination and the concentration to astral project, buyt know that I need to work on relaxation when only my astral feet slip out of body, but the rest is stuck in the physical head.

Yes, tentions around the eyes. That is a big one. Espeacialy for people who are on the internet a lot.

Tonight, I am so tired from work, so I think I'll keep it simple and just write out an out of body affirmation repeatedly about fifty times. This has worked in the past.

I Now have a fully conscious out of body experience.
I Now have a fully conscious out of body experience.
I Now have a fully conscious out of body experience...

here I go...

~Sheena

[zorgblar]

Does anybody here use  self hypnosis for astral Projection?

Yes.This is the method i use for all my astral projections.

[bjb1234]

My hypnotherapy teacher said a induction should take no more than 4 minutes, or it becomes ineffective.

You need a state called somnambolism or something.  Which isnt too hard to achieve.  But if the induction is long and boring you have no chance at all.

One of the tell tale signs your in somnambolism is you will feel your eyes moving side to side under your eye lids (if you focus your attention on your eyes).

Either way an induction should be no more than 4 minutes.

The teacher teaches rapid inductions, instant inductions and silent inductions to do on people.  But they require confidence and a slight pretalk to your hypnotic victim, i mean subject.

[hypnotist1]

Hi everyone,  most want to do a Fast Hypnotic Induction to reach Somnambulism, Deep Somnambulism or Profound Somnambulism.  If done for the first time a Progressive technique is required which can be about 25 to 30 minutes to reach the first level of Somnambulism.

Once there you can give yourself your KEYWORD to yourself.  Then when you say it to yourself in your mind your eyes will close and you return to that deep relaxed state again in seconds.

Once that is done then yes you can go into hypnosis in seconds not minutes.

If done correctly even with the progressive relaxation which will take from 25 to 30 minutes it would really feel like 5 or 10 minutes if done correctly.

It's how its said, timing, and tone of voice.

bjb to reach Somnambulism it can be reach in less then 3 to 4 seconds using a keyword when given to oneself or to someone else.  When bring a cold subject (a person going into hypnosis for first time) using a progressive relaxation and doing it in the right manor the person can achieve and reach Somnambulism in even 30 t0 40 minutes and to them it would seem like 5 to 10 minutes to achieve it.

Jacque, what sort of hypnotic technique do you use for your eyes?  Let me know and I can help if you like with that.

[Jacque]

Sheena:
Yep, I figure focus on the relaxing thing first.  And with me, it's the eyes! 

I've got several ideas and am trying to formulate a few 'scripts' for myself while in hypnosis, just haven't been dedicated to trying hard for a while now.  I've been trying to astral project since I was around 13.  I haven't given up by now, I'm not gonna in the near future! lol.

But I'm trying to get serious about practicing again, and this time 'round incorporating hypnosis into my techniques a great deal.  Actually, I'm only concerned with Phasing nowadays, and no longer try to project in the traditional sense.

I believe it would be possible to simply give yourself a keyword, and be there at some point.

What I was referring to here, (not real clear now that I read it again) is using hypnosis to condition yourself to merely give a keyword maybe a couple, and be full fledged phasing/projecting within seconds. Or at least say, achieving Fz or 3D Blackness.

I've actually been through 3D Blackness a number of times, many years ago while stumbling around practicing self hypnosis and meditation.  Course back then I had no frigging clue what the possibilities held, I just thought it was cool!  I wanna get there again with hypnosis.


hypnotist1/Frank:
I simply use a Dave Elman technique to achieve eye catalepsy... which i've long since given a keyword and can achieve total eye closure by just thinking of the keyword.  Then a bit of deepening technique (staircase, elevator or simple ...5x's deeper at the count of...)  Then I give myself rather simple and probably not well thought out suggestions for relaxing my eyes... "...you will feel only comfort around your eyes, relax the muscles around your eyes, let them wander where they may.."
That sort of thing, and it does work, though not as quickly as i'd like or as completely, which makes me believe I could go deeper into self hypnosis (need help/practice there) and/or my suggestions need improving.  Probably all.

I'd like to be able to just give a keyword and BE at Fz/3D Blackness!! 

What about forming keywords/suggestions for achieving mind awake/body asleep?  Been thinking a lot on it, but never worked out adequate suggestions for myself yet.

And yes, I'd love help!!

[Sheena]

Hello zorgblar

I am curious about how you hypnotise yourself. For me, I mainly use positive affirmations repeatedly verbal and writen that are stated in the present moment, such as, " I Now have a fully conscius out of body experience." and "I am aware that I am in the Astral"

I combine this with imagining this happening.

Sometimes I repeat things in certain ways like this:

1st,I will take as much time as I need to Relax.

2nd, I will pretend that I am a seperate person standing next to me as I say,
-"Sheena... You will consciously Astral Project." (3x)

3rd, with my eyes closed, I will respond out loud:
-"Yes, my name is Sheena, and I will consciously Astral Project."(3x)

4th, very quietly I will say to myself,
"My name is Sheena, and I consciously Astral project"

5th, only internaly I repeat,
"I Now consciously astral project. I Now consciously Astral project. I Now consciously Astral project."

and then I will repeat these steps at least 3 times.

>"I will astral project"< is stating the future which makes me feel that I am on my way to prepare for the experience. And then I lead myself into it happening now.

I feel that it is good to use your name in the hypnosis technique because it is a word that we respond to.

Somtimes I am walking down the street half asleep and hear someone call my name and I get this Jolt feeling that wakes me up more to see who called my name.

bjb 1234 :

The teacher teaches rapid inductions, instant inductions and silent inductions to do on people.  But they require confidence and a slight pretalk to your hypnotic victim, i mean subject.

lol ! "hypnotic victim, i mean subject. < that really made me laugh.
well, are you only learning to hypnotise other people, or does this automaticly tie into Self-hypnosis?  am very curious if you have to take different kinds of classes for hypnotising. ?

hypnotist1:
so, are you a professional hypnotist? I have a lot of questions as I am becoming more interested and personaly involved with hypnosis.
I never heard of Sombnamulism, but so far it sounds like something I have experienced, but don't understand it on the intellectual side.

Jacque: What is 3d blackness and Phasing?
I have experienced many different altered states of awarness and have had many out of body experiences, but I am not familiar with these terms. Right now, I am open to all information on hypnosis and anything else that can awaken my psychic perception.

I am so thankful for all this sharing!

~Sheena

[zorgblar]

Hello zorgblar

I am curious about how you hypnotise yourself. For me, I mainly use positive affirmations repeatedly verbal and writen that are stated in the present moment, such as, " I Now have a fully conscius out of body experience." and "I am aware that I am in the Astral"

I combine this with imagining this happening.

Sometimes I repeat things in certain ways like this:

1st,I will take as much time as I need to Relax.

2nd, I will pretend that I am a seperate person standing next to me as I say,
-"Sheena... You will consciously Astral Project." (3x)

3rd, with my eyes closed, I will respond out loud:
-"Yes, my name is Sheena, and I will consciously Astral Project."(3x)

4th, very quietly I will say to myself,
"My name is Sheena, and I consciously Astral project"

5th, only internaly I repeat,
"I Now consciously astral project. I Now consciously Astral project. I Now consciously Astral project."

and then I will repeat these steps at least 3 times.

>"I will astral project"< is stating the future which makes me feel that I am on my way to prepare for the experience. And then I lead myself into it happening now.

I feel that it is good to use your name in the hypnosis technique because it is a word that we respond to.

Somtimes I am walking down the street half asleep and hear someone call my name and I get this Jolt feeling that wakes me up more to see who called my name.

bjb 1234 :
lol ! "hypnotic victim, i mean subject. < that really made me laugh.
well, are you only learning to hypnotise other people, or does this automaticly tie into Self-hypnosis?  am very curious if you have to take different kinds of classes for hypnotising. ?

hypnotist1:
so, are you a professional hypnotist? I have a lot of questions as I am becoming more interested and personaly involved with hypnosis.
I never heard of Sombnamulism, but so far it sounds like something I have experienced, but don't understand it on the intellectual side.

Jacque: What is 3d blackness and Phasing?
I have experienced many different altered states of awarness and have had many out of body experiences, but I am not familiar with these terms. Right now, I am open to all information on hypnosis and anything else that can awaken my psychic perception.

I am so thankful for all this sharing!

~Sheena

The way i hynotize myself is as i am going to sleep i repeat over and over im my mind "after fall asleep i project from my body with full awareness" until i fall asleep and that usually works.

[Sheena]

zorgblar,

The way you hypnotise yourself is very simple.

I tried my complicated technique last night, and now I think it will better if I just keep it simple!

"I now have a fully conscious out of body experience."

~Sheena

[Jacque]

Jacque: What is 3d blackness and Phasing?
I have experienced many different altered states of awarness and have had many out of body experiences, but I am not familiar with these terms. Right now, I am open to all information on hypnosis and anything else that can awaken my psychic perception.

Sheena,

A description of Phasing can be found in the FAQ's but the same info and ton's more on Phasing can be found in the Frank Kepple Resource here

You'll also find descriptions of 3D Blackness in the Resource too, starting in section 2) How Frank's model correlates with Robert Monroe's

[jc87]

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