New....some helf please

[vladjackguy]

Hi...I'm kind of new...let me introduce myself.I'm a 15 year boy from Romania....excuse me if my English is bad...

I started AP with a sudden desire...I accidentally projected....
In one day it was like 3 PM....I lay down in my bed i stay with the face down,on a side(that's how i usually sleep)....and i was trying to "project"...saying in to my mind"OK there it goes you must relax...etc..and project"
One thought slipped over and IEEE....i fell down into a dream......Then in that dream i was thinking:"wait a sec....what's happening...I'm dreaming...."and i was thinking what i must do then the so called "trance
state" began(i didn't know there must be a trance state) weird freaky sounds like hypnotising ones were in my head....I was scared of them and tried to awake myself...but my body was sleeping.....and i was trying to get myself up.....and... poof...I feel like I'm up with my head and half of my body staying in my hands....my eyes were close..and I was scared and tried to open them.... i only managed to open half of my right eye and i was able to see my room for a little bit.....I was hearing strange things....i think these were the radio waves....and then i got sucked back in and suddenly waked up....

On other several attempts i didn't managed to get past the vibration state....and tried to make research about projection methods....and i founded a lot of them complicated ones and i don't know what is the best and easy....

So that's what i am here to ask you a step by step projection method from 0.....and some tips if I'm wrong....
Thank you
All
the best VLADJACKGUY

[vladjackguy]

  I have tried last night and today again....but nothing...

Today....i couldn't get to focus10....my body was completely relaxed i couldn't fell where my fingers/other body part's are.....it was a dream as i get back aware why am i dreaming and why i am here i thing here is the moment to project.....but it was too late my body already woke up

I have another problem my body gives me the signal to swallow....and it's very hard to avoid it.....

Can u give me some tips? please

All the best VLADJACKGUY   

[vladjackguy]

I tried again at 3 PM listening to an binaural beat.... almost an half of an hour passed and i didn't managed to get to focus 10

Can someone help me please??

[Lighten]

Relax. Try at different times of the day. Try in the morning, the afternoon, middle of the night. See what works best for you. Try not to think to hard about it. the only reason why i say that is because you seem to have a natural talent, or are in a particularly good mentality to project. So I would say just practice at different times and see what works. Good luck.

[vladjackguy]

Relax. Try at different times of the day. Try in the morning, the afternoon, middle of the night. See what works best for you. Try not to think to hard about it. the only reason why i say that is because you seem to have a natural talent, or are in a particularly good mentality to project. So I would say just practice at different times and see what works. Good luck.

Thank you, when i was little this IEEE sound several nights got in my head to as i was struggling to move i was paralyzed i now realise that i was in focus 10 or something like that...

I will try in this night to see what works best for me thank you....

You motivated me......I'm a kid by nature and i recognize i am a bit...well a bit more impatient....that's mostly because of my sign...

Thank you again

All the best VLADJACKGUY

[CFTraveler]

I recommend the following practice:
Start with some sort of relaxation method.
Move to some breathwork or pranayama of your choice.
Then go to a meditative practice.
Work with trance states (or trance induction)
go to energy body loosening methods
and finish by trying an exit technique.

All these terms should have explanations in the forum- I'm sure you can try the search feature if you don't know some of these.

[vladjackguy]

I recommend the following practice:
Start with some sort of relaxation method.
Move to some breathwork or pranayama of your choice.
Then go to a meditative practice.
Work with trance states (or trance induction)
go to energy body loosening methods
and finish by trying an exit technique.

All these terms should have explanations in the forum- I'm sure you can try the search feature if you don't know some of these.

Hmmm... most of them are like "chinese" i will research and refine my "technique"

I founded something in my native language that I thing it will help me a lot but frankly it is an complicated method:|

[vladjackguy]

Im having trouble finding those trance inducing methods and other part's that u have posted....i can't find them...could you help me?give me a link or something like that? it's really dificult for me

[CFTraveler]

Im having trouble finding those trance inducing methods and other part's that u have posted....i can't find them...could you help me?give me a link or something like that? it's really dificult for me

Here's a trance technique by Stookie.  I call it 'noticing'.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_spiritual_evolution/concerning_meditation-t28809.0.html;msg235651#msg235651

Another is imagining you're going up in an elevator.  Or down.
You can also imagine you're walking up a hill, or going up in a hot air balloon.
These are all good trance techniques, and you can combine them.  I'd leave 'noticing' for last, at least it's what I do.

For energy body loosening, the simplest one I can think of is using breathing, imagine you're a balloon, and as you inhale you get bigger, and you exhale and get back to normal.

Another loosening technique is to roll from side to side (with your imagination).  This can also be used as an exit technique but I prefer it for loosening.

I hope this was helpful.

[vladjackguy]

Here's a trance technique by Stookie.  I call it 'noticing'.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_spiritual_evolution/concerning_meditation-t28809.0.html;msg235651#msg235651

Another is imagining you're going up in an elevator.  Or down.
You can also imagine you're walking up a hill, or going up in a hot air balloon.
These are all good trance techniques, and you can combine them.  I'd leave 'noticing' for last, at least it's what I do.

For energy body loosening, the simplest one I can think of is using breathing, imagine you're a balloon, and as you inhale you get bigger, and you exhale and get back to normal.

Another loosening technique is to roll from side to side (with your imagination).  This can also be used as an exit technique but I prefer it for loosening.

I hope this was helpful.

THANK YOU...you have a good hearth..i can sense it...today...before u gave me the tips.....i tried to project again....
i lay down and and relaxed my body till i couldn't notice the feeling of my body... then after i would of liked to enter a dream then to project from it....i tried to remain aware but i slipped of for a few sec/minutes and then a strange scary sound with a picture like a white aluminium thing with a lil hole on it appeared in my head then i suddenly waked up and i was just shaking and my hearth was beating very fast...then i tried again the same process and i also slipped but i got aware to sudden and i got up... then the third time i slept on a dream but i couldn't get my mind aware and conscious because i waked today at 6 am to finish my homework and i was very tired....

So i hope i will not fall asleep like today....Thank you all and good night....

All the best VLADJACKGUY

[peto lux lucis]

I have another problem my body gives me the signal to swallow....and it's very hard to avoid it.....

I too have this problem.  I start to relax, my body gets heavier and 'numb'.  My mind is relaxed but aware - then *boom!*, I have to swallow and it knocks me out of my relaxed state.  Any ideas?

[CFTraveler]

Swallow and go back to trance.  You're not done yet.

[peto lux lucis]

Swallow and go back to trance.  You're not done yet.

Short and to the point - I like it.  Many thanks CFTraveler!

[vladjackguy]

I have read about that your body transmits strong signals to check if the mind is awake or not....

There are multiple examples:swallowing position changing etc....

And if u cant resist these signals the body will say ohh the mind responded to my signal and it's awake, i will stay awake too and wait for the mind to sleep....

So the point is that you should try resist these signals or in CFTraveler way to do that thing and start again....

OK now the other part....i have tried to project from a dream....i had 2 lucid dreams almost in the same day i realised it was a dream then i start changing it how i want...strange the projecting wasn't "printed" in my mind and i didn't got to that part yet(it was morning)...in that dream i did even fly and float.....had erotic experiences...and did what i have wanted ...go on a trip etc...

I'm dezvolting my wings for 3 days and i think i can make a technique out of it....after the relaxation part....trance part....vibration part i get it by .....flying....it is easy for me because i always sleep with the face of the body on the bed so it would be ....easy... i think...with some effort to summon the wings and "fly" out of the body.....

I wish you all a good night
All the best VLADJACKGUY

[vladjackguy]

Hmm looks like I've had projected 2 short times
First time when i waked up early in the morning and then i wanted to sleep because i was sleepy and i got into focus 10 and got my body outside floating in the middle of the room except my head...I was thinking right there in my head:"Am I out?....and i felt my head is still down connected with the physical body and when i tried to pull my head of my body sucked me back in and i suddenly woke up..

Second time....i was "printing" in my consciousness self affirmations from the evening and when was the time to sleep at night i cleared my mind and i automated got into focus 10 and separated from my physical body...
And i just fell on the ground sited there for i wile then i got up looked at my computer...it was turned on...and then turned and looked at the door...then i wanted to go and when i went through the door some spots appeared in the front of my eyes just pooping...it was very cool and weird...
Also after there was a afro american guy that was near my door and i told him to shut the door up....
Next day my sister blocked that door and it had to be cut down.....and i realised that the guy meant something.....
Also in my sleeping room when i looked at the bed it looked like my body was there/wasn't there...i just couldn't tell and my pillow was on the other side of the bed and just it without nothing....without blanket....Weird...but it was very cool...i liked the trance...it's awesome can't wait to try to project again....hope i stay more projected and go explore the world
All the best VLADJACKGUY

[owl]

I too have this problem.  I start to relax, my body gets heavier and 'numb'.  My mind is relaxed but aware - then *boom!*, I have to swallow and it knocks me out of my relaxed state.  Any ideas?

I have this problem too. I read somewhere here to try and lay half on your side and half on your back. This seems to help me with the swallowing but it's a bit uncomfortable. Maybe try laying on your back but lay your head to one side.