Tom Campbell says we don't need to get out our body...

[Symbol]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_q5CDE2Nko
Time in the video: 0:08:40 (8minutes and 40 seconds into the video)


Skip to that part.

He says this

We talk about Out of Body and the problem with out of body is that it really isn't about the body. You see you're already, your consciousnesses, you don't need to get out of your body, you just need to get into your consciousnesses.
That's the problem, people read Bob Menro's books, he says he just rolls out of body, and people just try to ROLL out of body all night...
Its not about the body, let the body go. Its just your consciousness. You're already out of your body

That is all i'll type, go into the video and skip to that part, and you'll see what I was trying to type.
Now my question is, that stuff serious?

It really isn't about the body?

My main question now is...
1: Then how to I GET INTO my consciousnesses?
2: How will I know I am inside my consciousness?
3: Once i'm in my consciousness, what do I do?

[Volgerle]

It's about "frame of reference", that means from which perspective you look at it. There is no out-of-body since timespace only exists for us humans on this level. On a non-physical or your "soul" level (including all 'bodies', planes, etc.) timespace does not exist. So the terms "out of" or "inside" don't really make sense anymore like this. They only make sense if you remain in the "frame of reference" of 3D. So I would say that it is neither wrong nor right to talk about OOB experience, it just depends on the perspective.

Many who see OBE/AP from the "Phasing" viewpoint argue in the same way. It is all different realities and consciousness experience (data) streams with certain rulesets according to the reality you focus on (choose to "enter" or view).

The Monroe institute, btw, doesn't claim anything else:

"While the early experiences of Monroe were often characterized by a sensation of leaving the body his development took a different turn in later years. Monroe discovered the 'quick-switch', which allowed him to move from one 'location' to another in an instant by stretching or reaching out with his consciousness. Eventually, this led Monroe to consider the 'second body' to be no more than 'local traffic'—mere habit due to the physical experience (Atwater, 2001). Thus, the implicit philosophical background behind 'phasing' is that there is no such thing as 'leaving the body', since consciousness is never really 'in the body' to begin with. Rather, all experiences which constitute things such as 'trance', 'hypnosis', 'altered states', 'meditation', 'OBEs', and 'astral projections' are simply variations on the same theme where consciousness is focused in different ways and in different degrees away from the physical"

Source: http://www.monroeinstitute.org/hemi-sync/overview-of-focus-levels/

Regarding your questions: I think you ALWAYS are, whatever you do or "where"ever you are, "in" your consciousness. Because you ARE (your) consciousness.

[CFTraveler]

I just want to add that the term "Out of Body"  has to do with experience and frame of reference.  If you perceive an OBE or perceive an environment around you, it's just a label you use for clarity.
But what he's trying to say, (IMO, since I've read his work and seen his videos) is that it's not the 'trick' that matters, it's what you do in your consciousness,  your relationship with the universe or how you see reality around you.
That's why the ancients regarded all of these things we talk about (OBE, phasing, clairvoyance, etc.) as distractions to the more important work of discovering yourself.

[Lionheart]

 This is the sole reason I have chosen to learn and excel at Phasing. I find it easier to just be physical on moment and Astral the next. No need to try and move phantom limbs or attempt to climb out the body. I think when you attempt to get out of the body your mind is still 100% focused on your physical.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
It places a big piece of the jigsaw into correct position. All we need now is to instruct those learning this to ignore the physical self. If a visualised construct helps then make it so. As said on another thread 'form a familiar visualisation and jump into it, your then out.
This works as it has been spoken of somewhat indirectly on the pulse.
The deeper you get into the 'phased state' the easier it is.The only difficulty with this is staying coherent with the task at hand and not getting in too deep to end up waking up in the morning.

[Symbol]

So how do I get into my consciousness and how do I know when i'm in it.

[CFTraveler]

This is the sole reason I have chosen to learn and excel at Phasing. I find it easier to just be physical on moment and Astral the next. No need to try and move phantom limbs or attempt to climb out the body. I think when you attempt to get out of the body your mind is still 100% focused on your physical.

I don't think the point of view is wrong, but I think the approach is.  Some people OBE easier than others, so it's more natural for them (and it often happens spontaneously for me, for example) so it's not a matter of focus- it's a matter of natural aptitude.
If you start out a spiritual pursuit looking to exclude something, I think you will miss out on something, possibly even the whole point of the experience.
I get a lot of messages from people that say "I was trying to do x, but then got y, how do I get x?" Not realizing that y is what they were supposed to get, but in their singlemindedness missed the experience, or didn't appreciate it.

So how do I get into my consciousness and how do I know when i'm in it.

You are your consciousness.  Self awareness is what it is.

[Symbol]

You are your consciousness.  Self awareness is what it is.

Now i'm just confused... >_>

[Szaxx]

Hi,
You can't see the wood because of the
trees.
That part of  wakefullness that is remembered and known as that person its likes and dislikes is the conciousness, its not the way they look, its who they are. The reasoning and thinking part, their character.
Eg. '' Its not like him to do that''
The HIM in that above is referring to the conciousness of the guy. Who he is.
Hope you understand.

[Stookie_]

Now i'm just confused... >_>

Everything that you experience is your consciousness. All the sensory input that your brain interprets and that you experience and think about is "self". You don't "get into your consciousness"... you're already there, all you can do is stop and just experience it.

And when you AP, you're going into "deeper" states of your self (consciousness) that you're normally not aware of.

[pondini]

Everything that you experience is your consciousness. All the sensory input that your brain interprets and that you experience and think about is "self". You don't "get into your consciousness"... you're already there, all you can do is stop and just experience it.

well said!

Symbol, tom often states things in a way that addresses the widest possible audience. for those unfamiliar with his books/videos his comment probably means don't let the idea of 'leaving a physical body' complicate the goal of accessing other reality frames. for those who have read his book and understand his theory that the universe and those of us in it -our physical bodies- are nothing more than virtual 'things', he is saying what stookie stated above.

all the previous posts are good, so i hope i haven't further confused you with my comment:P it might be helpful for you to re-read the posts in this thread;)

[majour ka]

I just want to add that the term "Out of Body"  has to do with experience and frame of reference.  If you perceive an OBE or perceive an environment around you, it's just a label you use for clarity.
But what he's trying to say, (IMO, since I've read his work and seen his videos) is that it's not the 'trick' that matters, it's what you do in your consciousness,  your relationship with the universe or how you see reality around you.
That's why the ancients regarded all of these things we talk about (OBE, phasing, clairvoyance, etc.) as distractions to the more important work of discovering yourself.

Love it 

[ayearhasgone]

So how do I get into my consciousness and how do I know when i'm in it.

Eh, you're already *in* your consciousness...  I guess what you mean is, "How do I *step back* from my physical focus?"

Phasing!

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/xanths_phasing_primer-t32983.0.html

Here's the Frank Kepple Phasing Resource

http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

[thatguy]

Now i'm just confused... >_>

I suggest you read Tomas Cambell's "My big Toe". It is extensive (3 books) but it is worth reading. It really doesn't show you techniques but it will give you a background on how everything works based on his experiences and all the research done.

The body and all physical matter/energy is an illusion of the mind based on constrains (rules that limits your awareness) imposed to your consciousness (you). Which in my opinion make much sense.  The trick is to work around those constrains to explore a bigger reality "outside" the physical reality we are aware of. 

[Xanth]

I suggest you read Tomas Cambell's "My big Toe". It is extensive (3 books) but it is worth reading. It really doesn't show you techniques but it will give you a background on how everything works based on his experiences and all the research done.

The body and all physical matter/energy is an illusion of the mind based on constrains (rules that limits your awareness) imposed to your consciousness (you). Which in my opinion make much sense.  The trick is to work around those constrains to explore a bigger reality "outside" the physical reality we are aware of. 

Actually, he outlines fairly detailed exactly how to experience and journey through the larger reality for yourself. 

[Thaki]

people read Bob Menro's books

uuuh...thats Robert Monroe i suppose?
i believe tom was reffering to his book "Journeys out of body" concluding by what he said "he says he just rolls out of body, and people just try to ROLL out of body all night...".i remeber robert did that the entire book xD

cheers

[thatguy]

Actually, he outlines fairly detailed exactly how to experience and journey through the larger reality for yourself. 

In which book? I know that in the first book he did mention some meditation techniques but not too much details on how to do an OBE. I'm through the third book now...

[Xanth]

In which book? I know that in the first book he did mention some meditation techniques but not too much details on how to do an OBE. I'm through the third book now...

I believe it's in the first book... and yes, it's when he's mentioning the "meditation techniques".
Whenever he speaks about experiencing the larger reality, he's talking about OBEs.  An OBE is a limiting term... exploring the non-physical is more than an OBE.  An OBE is a small drop in the bucket compared to what you can truly experience.