Separation technique

[Pineapple man]

OK,

I have no problem entering deep trance as Ive practiced meditation for many months now.

I can induce the vibrations no problem.

On pretty much every projection attempt i reach a point where i am very deep in trance, vibrations, things are defiantly very spacey at this point; a certain amount of separation is taking place, often ill be using some of my astral senses egg getting glimpses of my room with my astral eyes, i have also experienced a very notable swaying effect.

I just need a decent active separation technique to force the separation.

Oh yeah, apart from ROPE, i keep on pulling the rope down as opposed to me climbing up it  

[upstream]

I have a little trick for separation that I learned a few years back. Of course, it works only if I am already in the permissive state. But since that permissivity has been broadened considerably. All I need to do is having some faint hypnagogics and so this "snap back rolling" for separation.

It starts by imagining myself turning around the length axis of my body for about quarter of a turn or more. Up to this point it may feel as an imagination. If I lay on my right side I pretend myself turning on my back.

I have to do this really, really slowly but with considerable force before I abruptly snap back and start to spin into the opposite direction, now for real and with full speed. It actually feels like my first imagined turn somehow makes the path for the second opposite movement. It tricks the neuromatrix into malfunction.

Another simple tech is to focus on a point just above the top of your head. Try to collect the sense of your body awareness in that point like you were a giant amoeba oozing upwards. Chances are great you will hear some noises increasing in pitch or volume, quite similar to what air makes when it escapes from tanks being filled up with water.

This focus will immediately lose up your dream body for spinning or snap back rolling.

[Pineapple man]

thanks upstream ill give em a go

[Ryuji]

hi,

also been at techniques to seperate but lately got the idea of just going as u would always to sleep just normally with mildly the feeling and seeing that you are afloat without doing the whole climb rope, ladder, rolling out etc etc things.

just midly floating ive come to allmost seperate as a extremely loud music was put on via someone in neibourhood hehe awoke me at this point tho :/

what i found was as soon as i try the climb out, up rope, roll out stuff i will wake again and loose the 'mushie' feeling and the 'no feel body' or sleeping body thing.

so i gues that one should just mildy use some method and go along while breathing deeply and totally relaxing with out using 10 techinques at same time or forcing it.

anywhays im going to do the floating thing few times more...

blessings
Ryu