Transitions: Focus 10 to Focus 12

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Curious39

Hello Everyone!

OK, so I've been moving along, deeper and deeper with my practice.  Progress is made virtually every time, however minute it may be.

I've read quite a bit on the forum here and have found some very significant descriptions of the varying focus levels in Monroe's System.  Frank's System is fascinating and honestly, the journal that OutOfBodyDude keeps is inspirational.  Based upon these readings and the in depth fishing I've done through the forum, I've really been focusing my practice on deeper and deeper levels of Focus 10.

Now, I am fairly convinced that I had a real time OBE in my previous thread.  Given the explanations in others and the kind replies in my own query, it all points to the same process. 

So, naturally I read about transitioning.  There is, thanks to Frank an others, a tremendous amount of information on going to Focus 10.

I'd LOVE (and I am CERTAIN) others here would love to hear the process of going from Focus 10 to 12 in that manner of depth.  From Frank's model (BRILLIANT!) from Focus 2 to 3, 3 to 4?

Your experiences?  I'm asking about process and experience because I truly do not believe "method" applies or can be applied at this point in the practice.  Having a "method" would be counteractive to the entire model.

SO, with that, I turn the floor over from the humble question to the more advanced practitioners.

Peace and Love,

C

kiwibonga

If I understand the difference between 10 and 12, I would say it's the difference between light trance and deep trance.

When you're asleep, you're always somewhat alert... There's a part of your mind that is "listening" ; it's the part of you that will hear sounds, and wake you up if something threatening happens, the part of your mind that will hear the alarm in the morning. You will inevitably be in focus 10 for a while... The most noticeable part is when you're waking up naturally, you'll be in trance while your mind judges whether it's time to get up or not.

"Mind awake, body asleep" is a very accurate way to put it.

The transition from 10 to 12 seems to follow from actual intent. You go from half-unconsciousness, darkness, the inability to perceive time, to "mind-activity." Instead of shifting out of focus 10 and going into focus 1 or 3, you push forward and go deeper. Instead of using muscles to move, you use thought. Instead of opening your eyes to look around, you sense your surroundings. This very faint, subtle part of you is perceiving the non-physical environment, and you shift focus into it.

You're right, there is no real technique... It's really all about discovering the existence of a part of you that's always been there, but covered up by the physical self, and using it. Just like you'd use your muscles to lift your hand up or down, you can dwelve deeper into the state or away from it. Intention, rather than electrical pulses through nerves, is what will provoke this movement.
OBE counter: Lost track! 35+ since 3/21/2006

Curious39

Thank you Kiwibonga,

I sincerely appreciate your responses to all my posts recently.  I find your statements and thought processes well delivered, insightful and informed.  Much appreciated.

Now the question becomes, the focus from 12 onward?  At some point you certainly must reach a "launching pad" so to speak from which you tune your consciousness to a broadcast of some particular frequency..?

Have you, yourself, accomplished this?

Appreciatively,

C

kiwibonga

I wouldn't be able to tell you... I don't subscribe to any of the phasing models beyond Focus 12... Frank's model makes sense, but it's too arbitrary, and the same data could be interpreted in many different ways that would be just as valid.

Focus 12 is pretty much the launching pad... From there, there's no limit to what you can do ; it's all about willpower and open-mindedness.
OBE counter: Lost track! 35+ since 3/21/2006

Hans Solo

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QuoteI wouldn't be able to tell you... I don't subscribe to any of the phasing models beyond Focus 12... Frank's model makes sense, but it's too arbitrary, and the same data could be interpreted in many different ways that would be just as valid.


Focus 12 is Robert Monroe's.....I know, I know a slight difference but I wanted to make that clear to the newer members.

I do agree with what kiwibongo wrote above.  Focus 12 is just a further seperation, or moving your focus away from physical thoughts, feelings, and senses.  Sometimes it can feel as if you "Click" into a clear minded "superconsciousness" and may see dull colored "swirls, clouds,etc" in your minds eye (not behind your eyes).  The blackness also seems to engulf you more than in focus 10, this happens because you are no longer focused behind your eyes but into your mind (you should shift that focus asap).  These are all just signs that your focus is moving away from the physical.  The only real "tech" I know of to transition into focus 12 is the Gateway series by the Monroe institue, other than that it is just a road sign into deeper levels of mind.

Good luck,

Ben
"Man, I just sprinted a mile and my heart chakra is going crazy!"

"Women only want me for my Focus 4"