Happy New Year Astral Pulse!
Ok so lately I have been practicing visualisations alot as I feel this is one area which can massively help with alot of things, projecting included. I think there is a huge amount of confusion surrounding visualisations and I hope my observations and the replies of others can help clear this up.
When I started reading about people visualising my immediate response was that there was no way I could visualise! They describe their "visions" as very real looking, almost tangible things very similar to what you see with your physical eyes. Again, this kind of thing seemed WAY beyond my ability. I guess most new comers also feel this way. The word "visualisation" I think is misleading, because the process (as far as I can tell) is not visual at all, its perceptive. Let me explain what has been happening to me...
I started trying to visualise by imagining myself walking around my home and picking up stuff, which of course is very familiar to me so should be an easy start. But I STILL couldnt get any strong VISUALS or anything that resembled physical existence. Anyway I kept practicing and moving on to more detailed visualisations. I often walk along a cliff, feel the grass and smell the air, then jump off (I am a skydiver) and freefall to the ground below, performing aerial stunts with my canopy etc - but STILL I dont get strong life-like imagery. Then I noticed something recently, the visualisations are having an impact on me and I feel like I have another world in my head. I can visualise anything now (although I still have trouble simulating motion) and while at the time, the imagery is not rock solid, when I think back to the visualisation it feels like a memory of something I have actually done. I had to double take earlier today on whether a MEMORY of me riding a kayak was a dream or a visualisation - in my mind there feels no difference unless I analyse.
I personally think the key to this is realising that visualisations are NOT life like imagery, they are more like perceptions or memories of something. When I visualise, even though I am doing it there and then, the imagery I "see" or more acurately perceive feels exactly like the imagery I get when I remember an actual event that took place.
Is this how it is for other people also? The active visualisation appearing in perception like a memory of a real event?
I dont know if I have articulated myself properly here but I thought I would try!
Dear Astralbeginnins,
yes that is exactly how it is from my experience.
However, I have meditated to the point where thoughts would actually become real imagery as like open eyed so that was interesting.
I think the relaity of the inner vision increases with relaxation. However it can't be willed, it just comes on it's own when the astral body gets loose i believe.
The reason we can feel the imagined places as real is because, as you said, they are parts and/or combinations of memories of places we have seen, and as we imagine of them, we connect to them energetically, through the mental body i believe.
kind regards,
Paul
Bingo! You nailed it AstralBeginnings! :)
There's absolutely NOTHING visual about visualization. Nothing at all.
Tell someone to remember a childhood experience in their head... try to remember every detail they can about. Where they were, what they were doing, who they were doing it with... and remember all the details about the locations and environment.
That's visualizing!
No "seeing" involved. It's all perceiving. :)
I always point people here: http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/new-energy-ways/using-new-full-tutorial/73-part-2-no-visualization.html
Robert Bruce explains it beautifully.
Cheers Xanth i'll check that link out.
One thing I still have trouble with (aside from simulating motion) is when people say "visualise white light coming from your crown..."etc.
I cant seem to make these work. I mean do I just simply feel the light/energy or do I visualise how it would appear from a 1st person viewpoint as I do when I visualise walking along a cliff?
Anyway, im glad you guys agree which means I'm on the right track :)
Quote from: AstralBeginnings on January 04, 2011, 09:59:17
Cheers Xanth i'll check that link out.
One thing I still have trouble with (aside from simulating motion) is when people say "visualise white light coming from your crown..."etc.
I cant seem to make these work. I mean do I just simply feel the light/energy or do I visualise how it would appear from a 1st person viewpoint as I do when I visualise walking along a cliff?
Anyway, im glad you guys agree which means I'm on the right track :)
When I used to visualize stuff like that... I'd visualize it as pure white light water pouring out from my crown chakra.
Perhaps that'll help. :)
From what perspective do you visualise it, or do you just feel it?
Quote from: AstralBeginnings on January 04, 2011, 10:05:52
From what perspective do you visualise it, or do you just feel it?
From my expected perspective. My usual perspective.
I'm here... and I just perceive it as if someone was standing over me pouring water on the top of my head, but the water is actually just coming from my crown center.
Quote from: Xanth on January 04, 2011, 10:14:16
From my expected perspective. My usual perspective.
I'm here... and I just perceive it as if someone was standing over me pouring water on the top of my head, but the water is actually just coming from my crown center.
Perfect thanks - this is where Ive been having conflicting approaches making the visualisation less successful.
Quote from: Tiny on January 04, 2011, 05:50:02
However, I have meditated to the point where thoughts would actually become real imagery as like open eyed so that was interesting.
I think the relaity of the inner vision increases with relaxation. However it can't be willed, it just comes on it's own when the astral body gets loose i believe.
Yep, that's what I experience also. I don't know much about astral bodies but the idea of phasing, as I understand it, is that we have one spectrum of consciousness that encompasses both our waking everyday awareness and our "astral" awareness (and others depending on what you believe) and it's where we focus our attention that makes the difference. So when I'm phasing, I start out visualizing something in my imagination. At first, it is just as described earlier, like a memory of an event you perceive in your mind's eye. It's not something I see with my physical eyes behind my eyelids. As I get further away from the physical (drift off to sleep) it becomes more and more real until it's as real (even more so) than everyday waking consciousness. Eventually, you're just there - 100%.