Dextromethorphan....

[Mystic Cloud]

All the ways lead to Rome.

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Believe me, it was a hallucination. I've done DXM at least 100 times (not my drug of choice; that title went to LSD) but believe me, dxm is not something you want to be into if you are looking for a clear head.

For those who dont know, dextromethorphan is a common over the counter cold medicine; which, when used in large quantities, is a very very very powerful disassociative similar to PCP, or special K (albeit, more powerful than the latter).

It is VERY hard on your brain, and I strongly doubt you, i, or anyone else has the mental functioning while on it to engage in any sort of astral activity.

While disassociated your brain is in a cluster f*%k. Think of the opposite of OBE.. Instead of you and your consciousness leaving your body, your consciousness and your brain leave your body with you in it. So you can be thought of as the left behind part of an OBE. What your body would be in normal AP/OBE/etc.

This drug does cause olney's lesions (similar to what ecstacy does) although DXM's lesions can be MORE serious as it is concentrated in more specific areas of the brain (particularly the memory areas).

This is all coming from a former tripper, who found natural areas such as AP as an alternative to drugs.

All this will do is cloud your mind making it more difficult to concentrate on your AP; weather on, or off, of the drug. As i have said before, it can, and has, caused permanant, irreversable, brain damage in people such as speech impediments, memory loss, short term memory problems, association problems, and can also cause HPPD similar to LSD induced HPPD.

Not to sound anti-drug (im not at all) but DXM is NOT the drug to use for AP (nor are any disassociatives).

I have however heard good things about psychadelics such as lsa, lsd, and psylocibin (As found in.. certain mushrooms.) But i wont condone there use. *wink*

Appreciate your use of words is has a contextual connotation, but felt I had to edit all the same! Regards, S []

[intrigue]

Sorry i came off as a complete jerk above. DXM is just a really bad choice for mental activity. A really good choice to trip face however.

I'm not an anti-drug preacher by any means (i was a hardcore drug addict until a few months ago when i cleaned up my act quite a bit); but it really comes down to the serious choice. Do you want that extra mental activity that not everyone has knowledge about; that extra special something? Or do you wanna trip balls. The choice comes down to A.) If you take the drug to do it, and B.) What drug you take.

Dxm is a great choice to trip, but a horrible one to project. I would only recommend abstinence for AP; but if you feel you would rather try with it induced by means of chemicals, try the less harmful ones. Pot, LSD, Psylocibin. And people, dont start spitting out garbage about acid.

Check out www.erowid.org if you havn't heard of it yet. Read up on the psychedelics; however I have had little success with drugs and AP.

[Dex_tree]

hmm, it looks like I havent even begun to understand the true nature of an obe, from what I've heard of others' reports, they had some similatrities to my dxm experience. I only gave that particular trip a second glance because ive done a whole, whole lot of dex in my day and never had an experience like that, but i guess all drugs are full of surprises, even to the experienced tripper. Well, maybe its not the right way to do it, but im really impatient, ive been looking for some kind of catalyst in achieving obe, and im actually somewhat relieved dxm isnt a viable choice. I might experiment with some other substances.. i dunno... maybe my addictive sub conscious is simply looking for an excuse to get high again. Im hoping brainwave entrainment via holosync will yield some results, I dont even have my hopes set on achieving obe this early, but at least some sort of result will satisfy me. Thanks for clarifying what my dex experience was, and if there are some other methods to aid this sort of thing, id love to hear, besides the old 'practice practice practice' thing, im too busy doing nothing to spend a huge amount of time with this hehe.

[Dex_tree]

well, already an incredible amount of drug-topics here, so whatll it hurt if i add one more? [|)] Well I was just wondering if anyone else has had good experiences with DXM(yes, its in cough syrup...)? I used to do this crap like constantly, and i can say that before i even really knew about all this new-age bullsht(what i referred to it at the time, hehe) I have had an obe, or at least something similar, i cannot say it was a true obe, as ive never experienced one without chemical aid. I suppose thats what truly got me started into all this stuff, i never wouldve given a though to any of this if it werent for that one experience. It was very profound, to say the least, i was trippin hard(1.5g), and chilled in my room for about 4 hours on my bed, listening to some nice ambience music. Well, my CD messed up or soemthing, and it turned into a white noise sorta, and i was in no shape to walk the two feet to find get my remote, so i just let it play. I sat there for about 15 minutes with the Fuzz blaring, and kinda relaxed, i felt like i was sinking deeper and deeper into my bed, but it felt good(mebe not the exact word for it). I startyed focusing on a spot behind my eyelids(A hallucinaton, i dunno) and i felt kind of tingly all over, weird cus normally i feel absolutly nothing on that, like a paralized person would feel, except i can still move with some effort. And before i knew it, i had the sensation of floating, i couldnt see anything, not like i had closed eyes, but i just 'didnt' see, hard to explain, i wasnt really trying to see though, just trying to think about the weird feelings. Was this the beginning of an oobe or something, or just a drug induced hallucination? I would normally write this off as just a trip, but it was a way different experience than what i normally feel on it..
Also, i used to do alotta sleeping pills(otc), and soemtimes id close my eyes and kinda daze off, and id start seeing in a new scene, The images were very very vivid, not like a dream at all, and i cant tell that my eyes are even closed, it usually took some physical stimuli to snap me outta this'vision', it was odd, not like i was just picturing a scene with my minds eye, but like i was truly seeing something, i never trid to interact with whatever i was looking at though, i just sat and watched, not even realizing that i was really in my bed at home tripping. Maybe this was a pretty vague description, but does anyone have some sort of explanation of what i felt? OR could someone mebe relate to such an experience? I could write the latter experience off has just a weird head trip, but that experience on the dex? That was very odd, indeed, and something tells me it was more than just a hard trip.
Well thanks for any input or answers you may have for me, ill be looking forward to hearing []