Basic question on phasing....

[Xtensity]

So... I completely understand the concept of phasing, how to do it, how to engage and activate your imaginary senses, etc...

Though, when the full 'switch' is made, what changes about the perceptions, more specifically sight? When I am actively imagining and feeling the scenary and engaing my sense, I don't actually see anything, but I can mentally feel and sense the outlines of things, as if I were mentally picturing a door in front of me.... my basic question is when the switch is made, what happens to the vividness of the image?

Does it become vivid as a dream would? As an OBE would? As reality would? Or do I just get the feeling that I am in this imagined body participating and not actually SEEING anything as I would in a dream/LD/OBE?

Out of all the post I have read this isn't really clarified... Like do colors become vivid in the sense that I actually SEE everything in full detail as an OBE would?

[Timandra]

Hi Xtensity. For me a phasing is just like an OBE except for the method to get into the non-physical. I do see an image, in which I zoom into and when I'm fully there it is just as real as an OBE or reality, colours, details and all. At first you may not see an image but when you really are phasing/make the switch, you should see something and not just feel it. At least I have never heard of a phasing where you can't see anything.  (Also in OBE's I have a body and in a phasing I am a point of consciousness.)

[Xanth]

Heya Xtensity!

The shift is very much like Timandra mentioned.
Even you hit upon it.

It's the difference between "perceiving" a non-physical environment and "experiencing" a non-physical environment.

When we perceive things, we don't actually "see" or "live" it.  It's more like impressions that we feel regarding it.
When we experience things, we're actually THERE living it out.  For example, what people call a "dream" is, in my opinion, a non-physical experience, you're just unaware of it at the time.  However, while you're there experiencing it... I think you and I can agree that it's vastly different than perceiving something. 

[Xtensity]

Great replies, I understand clearly now.

One more question on phasing in general...... Is it any different from a lucid dream experience in the astral? Or does it function differently..?

I've ALWAYS had trouble falling to sleep. I've never been able to sleep in class EVER despite tiredness(which I contribute to anxiety) and if I try to go to bed not tired it takes me hours to fall asleep. I've never been able to have a WILD. I've woken up for a few seconds and began counting as you would with a wild about dreaming, and about 300-400 numbers later I'm still awake...lol. This might have to do with my inability to effectively relax. I'm not sure....

But Xanth... how do you differ Phasing between focusing on something then merely falling into a lucid dream as you focus? Is that all phasing is? Falling into a lucid dream through conscious focus... ignoring your physical senses enough until your body falls asleep..?

[Xanth]

Great replies, I understand clearly now.

One more question on phasing in general...... Is it any different from a lucid dream experience in the astral? Or does it function differently..?

In my opinion, no different.
Well, the only difference is that you have a waking awareness.  That's all.

I've ALWAYS had trouble falling to sleep. I've never been able to sleep in class EVER despite tiredness(which I contribute to anxiety) and if I try to go to bed not tired it takes me hours to fall asleep. I've never been able to have a WILD. I've woken up for a few seconds and began counting as you would with a wild about dreaming, and about 300-400 numbers later I'm still awake...lol. This might have to do with my inability to effectively relax. I'm not sure....

Work on relaxing your physical body... while keeping your mind focused upon that counting. 

But Xanth... how do you differ Phasing between focusing on something then merely falling into a lucid dream as you focus? Is that all phasing is? Falling into a lucid dream through conscious focus... ignoring your physical senses enough until your body falls asleep..?

I found a quote that I saved from Robert Monroe, it was something he said in his third book when he was describing the process of Phasing:

"The process was becoming so smooth that it was hard to define when I actually left the body. It was more the fading out of one state of being and into another, similar to falling asleep and staying conscious while doing so."

Phasing is simply the description of a smooth transition between "here" and "there". 

[Xtensity]

Hm so the more I focus on extreme physical relaxation while focusing on a various scenery then I will be able to fade in and out of this pseudo-lucid dream more quickly so the speak?

I guess my relaxation skills are just...crappy haha.

and from that lucid dream I can just will myself to a real location...? This is why there may be things that I see generated unwillfully by my subconscious? How do I stop these unwillful projections?

[i smoke and drink coffee]

Looks like I have to do some reading up on phasing.  Will never be a complete psion if I don't learn how to phase!  lawl

Apparently, all of these things, meditation, phasing, trancing, and phantasy, (if any of you even hold phantasy as a valid practice), they all are either just personalized to fit the variation of consciousness for each person that pursues them to the point of manifestation, or, they all work in unision to provide a transcendent, astral shift to the soul existence.

For instance... in meditation, I silence my mind, focus 'nothingness', and enter a transphenomenal state
in phasing, for me, it's like a probe, it's part of how I think, it involves visualization and sensitivity to the currents of reality where ever the probe might be focused
in trancing, it begins like meditation, and eventually goes way off into some wild and crazy thing where there are all these people and I don't know what's happening and people keep seeking for my blood  (lol, sad to say it, sigh)
and in phantasy, I'm sitting there, and actively creating and sustaining an existence while generating astral entities that can sustain themselves, otherwise known as 'phantasms' (at least according to me)

So I'm starting to think, that in order to 'go astral', I've got to combine all those things at once, into one full trance that ultimately liberates my whole consciousness.

[NickisDank]

When u said u wake up and just simply focus on counting, I know how that feels because I've done that countless times with no success, if anything I'll be noticeably relaxed, but have just normal closed eye visuals and barley any buzzing. If you think about it counting to 400 exactly that would probably take 30 or so minutes? If so probably another 100-200 would be good to hit that hour mark or something. Idk lol I'm currently trying to fix my problem as well.

[eflynn]

It's the difference between "perceiving" a non-physical environment and "experiencing" a non-physical environment.

Yeah!  Best desccription of how it works (for me at least) that I've found.  Couldn't have said it better myself.