a mistake on purpose

[Jeff_Mash]

I think that is good advice.  To compliment what you said, I've always mentioned that you must be PASSIVE (or as you put it, gentle).  It's almost as if you have to just lay back and watch your body drift off to sleep as a third party observer.  Don't try and make anything happen, or even try to make sense out of the things you experience.  Just be passive and observant.

Good post.

[RJA]

quote:Originally posted by Michael_E

...If you find yourself laying in bed for hours concentrating till beads of sweat fall down your forehead but not getting any results...

LOL! Been there, done that!

[Michael_E]

I just thought i would share something i realized this week.  When trying to have an astral experience i found it very useful to allow yourself to fall asleep while gently watching it happen. Gently because if you try too hard or concentrate too hard on trying to have one you wont be able to experience the shift in your state of mind that is required to "get out". If you concentrate too intently youll mentally be too aware to get out but in contrast if you dont focus enough youll fall asleep. I think it takes a bit of experiencing both extremes (concentrating too intently and concentrating too flacidly) to find this gentle concentration in which you can experience the shift in awareness. If you find yourself laying in bed for hours concentrating till beads of sweat fall down your forehead but not getting any results, it may be safe to say that your overdoing it. If on the other hand your out like a light as soon as you hit the pillow it may be safe to say that you need a little nudge in the direction of focus. When you become familiar with both extremes you know what not to do and can find a middle ground between both extremes that allows you to keep your mind aware of the shift to astral. So as a method to induce an astral experience it may be worth investing in purposly making these two mistakes of focusing too much and too little, so that you can peel away at the contrasting extremes to the point in which you can watch it happen as a natural extension of your level of awareness.

Any comments/feedback is greatly apprecitated