Scared to go back to sleep... :(

[hungry_kitty]

Hello,

After years of thinking I just have very annoyingly vivid/realistic dreams, someone pointed out the concept of astral projections. However, after learning a bit about this, I am not sure I fit in, so if you could please just answer two questions, it might shed light on the matter, since these experiences tend to frighten me to the point of forcing myself to wake up and just get out of bed, and wait it out, no matter how tired I am. They are not in themselves scary experiences, but they give me the creeps for now.

1. From everything I read, astral movement is meant to be light, an out of body experience. In the mornings, after my boyfriend goes to work and I wake up briefly, I sometimes slip into a what is best described as a hallucination: I feel completely awake, I can physically feel everything around me, I am lying in my bed, and the only way I realize that I am not awake is because I start feeling a weight on my bed or on me, or feel a person just beside me, yet still out of view...The two things are horrifying for me, yet I stay calm since I am the type of person who needs to face my fears in order to survive the moment. Since I can't move much during these times for some reason, and because my body feels heavy, and I can just about move my head and hands, I ask them to come into my field of vision, so we can talk it out. It is usually someone I have never seen before, but nothing scary, we then tend to have a somewhat meaningless conversation (I ask them if there is any problem, and they tell me a few of their issues) and then they disappear and I wake up properly (well, I tend to instantly then go back to this other state of mind and repeat the whole process again with another person). Over and over and over again, I can't stop it, it is as if I am on heavy drugs.

The question is can it be astral if I feel so heavy, can't really move much, and am very aware of my body, and essentially stuck in my bed?

2. A few times I have "met" my boyfriend there, he was usually distressed (since we were going through some tough times then) and I would console him and cuddle him. It was ridiculously real, I could feel, hear, smell, see him...This was while he was at work, presumably awake, and he has no "recollection" of meeting me like that.

So the question here is whether it is possible to meet people in the astral planes that I know and that have no recollection of it, and are awake at work at that time?

Thank you!

[daytona955]

Hi there hungry_kitty,

The question is can it be astral if I feel so heavy, can't really move much, and am very aware of my body, and essentially stuck in my bed?

This is pretty much where I am at the moment. It sounds to me exactly like Sleep Paralysis (SP). This is something that I have "suffered" from since I was about 10 years old (now 32). It is only recently that I have found it to be linked with Astral Projection (AP). I have learned that when in a state of SP you are ready to separate from your physical body and then you would be projecting. I myself have been in SP many many times and have only separated twice before.
It used to scare me also, and there were many times when I felt the presence of others in the room with me, although I was no where near as brave as you in asking them to confront me!!
It is only recently in joining this forum that I have embraced this and have learned so much from the other members. I recommend that you take a look around, it certainly is an eye opener! I really can't wait to become more advanced at AP and see for myself some of the wonderful things that are discussed in these posts. 

Hello,
So the question here is whether it is possible to meet people in the astral planes that I know and that have no recollection of it, and are awake at work at that time?

I have no experience in this, but what I gather from listening to other members is that you may be talking to your boyfriends 'Higher Self'?
I suggest you search this site for that term and see what comes up, or maybe somebody else better placed could put you right?


I certainly don't think that you have anything to worry about. I'm thinking of this as a whole new adventure in life, in fact I think I've been looking for this my whole life and it has really changed my outlook on everything!

Good luck and all the best!! 

[NoY]

Welcome to the Pulse Kitty 


:NoY:

[Xanth]

Hi there hungry_kitty!

Welcome to the Astral Pulse.  It's nice to meet you.

I'm with daytona955 on this.  The first question you pose is DEFINITELY Sleep Paralysis with all the usual trimmings.  The "heaviness" you feel is actually the weight of your own physical body, it's perfectly normal.  Staying calm is actually the best way around this.  If you direly need to get out of Sleep Paralysis, just aim at moving a single finger.  That should be enough to break it and wake yourself up.

The strange presences you sense in the room around you are, in my opinion, "mostly" creations of your own mind.  They're created through your beliefs and expectations.  Converse with them as much as you want, as they're a reflection of your inner-self.  You can probably learn a lot about yourself from them. 

If you want to move "out" of your body... simply visualize yourself floating upwards, or moving upwards like in an elevator of a hot air balloon, if you've ever experienced that before.   Visualize something that's familiar to you that you can make yourself feel just by thinking.  Usually an elevator works perfectly for this.

As for your second question...
I believe what you were experiencing with your Boyfriend wasn't really him, yet just a non-physical construct of him that you subconsciously (and unknowingly) created.  It's a reflection of your current state of mind towards him at the time.  As with the sleep paralysis voices, try conversing with him at the time and see if he has anything important to tell you. 

I dunno if it's truly possible to meet people on the astral... some people here say it's possible and they have.
I think we can meet in a collective consciousness type-area.

[hungry_kitty]

Thank you for your warm welcome and your insights...

I am currently in two minds about whether my "hallucinations" are simply my mind's projections of ideas, feelings, memories that have nothing to do with any sort of an outside energy, or if they are indeed other people's consciousness intertwining with mine...I am a strange mix of "hard" science (I'm a vet) while quite whole heartedly embracing the more "spiritual" side of life: I have enjoyed Buddhism for some time now, and have dabbled briefly in meditation, yoga etc, however, I have never really explored the idea of astral plains. I must admit for now I am leaning toward it all being my own mental energy, however, the experiences of these "other people" being in my room are so real that I occasionally do question my theory.

As for being brave and facing these "other people", it is actually not brave, it is unfortunately just the way I have to deal with fear: I am terrified of not being face to face with something that is scaring me (since then I at least know what I am up against, otherwise I imagine the worst and fear it for much longer), even if it means opening the door to an angry bear. Insane, I know...

Anyway, thank you for your ideas, I see now I really know very little about all this and should start reading more about it all.

[hungry_kitty]

p.s.

Sorry, a question I forgot to ask in my post above: so if I imagine floating away from my body in these instances, where do I float away to (if it is not sure other people exist in these plains)? Do I just float into a space where I can converse with my own mind's projections? Sorry if these are really banal questions, if you guys have good reading for me to do on this topic, feel free to point me in that direction, rather than answer my questions on here...

[CFTraveler]

Hi Hungry_Kitty.
Usually, when you first have an OBE, the environment in which you usually first manifest is called the Real Time Zone or etheric plane (same place/state/focus level, different names) which is 'your room'.  You can float away from your body which should break the feedback that is causing the 'dweller' experience, and explore whatever you see. 
What is there?  An energetic representation of your house/apt. etc. that may be affected by your perception.  This is because the energy body you are using to perceive does so like a 'radar' does- by interacting with the environment.  So that the perceptions you have may be influenced by your thoughts and ways of perception (time and space are experienced somewhat differently)- but most of the time, in this level there is very little interaction with anything you didn't create- such as other astral travelers.
However, you may indeed interact with the projected doubles of whoever else lives in your house- because it's their territory as well as yours.