Exit Method Questions

[Aaron330]

So I've been having a lot of success getting into sleep paralysis for the past week. Pretty much every time I try I doze off, wake up, and feel the "hot liquid" feeling shoot through my whole body and the heavy lead blanket, etc. Vibrations will start and then I will drift back out of it. This happens about 5-10 times in a row, but I haven't been able to get into a full blown SP yet. Not sure why, I think I get excited everytime I feel myself entering a small SP which snaps me out of it again.

My questions though are for when I am able to get back into that full SP, because I think it will be very soon as I'm getting much better at it.

1. When you talk about exit methods like the "roll over" or "grab the rope", etc. (I've heard two different things here) Do I want to ACTUALLY attempt to roll over or grap a rope as if I was using my physical body, but assuming this will be my astral body moving since my physical will be in SP? Or do I simply imagine myself rolling over and try to feel what it feels like to roll or grab the rope?

2. When is the right time to execute an exit technique? Once the sensations of wind noise and vibrations die down and you get into the "still zone"?? I'm assuming once you get to that place you are free to execute whichever exit method you see fit? Or can you do it earlier when the SP sensations are still happening?

Thanks!

[Aaron330]

lol bump

[soarin12]

Do the exit when you've lost awareness of your physical body.  I wouldn't base it off of the noises and vibrations because the timing and presence of those things varies from person to person.

Here are the order of events for me.  Heavy lead blanket feeling, feeling presences around me or coming at me and maybe hear some noises, after that there is a very distinctive feeling which is hard to define but I'm going to say it's a total loss of awareness of the physical.  For me, I just know it's time to get up and go at this point.  Often I don't have to exit, I just find myself 'there.'  But if the change doesn't happen by itself, then use an exit technique.  When I was first starting, imagination alone wasn't enough to get me out, and I needed to use use some 'physical' force as well --like I was rolling out using my physical body.

It's easy to get distracted from your trance due to excitement or fear. You'll be able to feel your mind speeding up which will be death to your trance. Then either your trance won't deepen and your progress through the above mentioned stages will halt, or the trance will be ruined completely.

Good luck!  Hope this is helpful. 

[EscapeVelocity]

Soarin12 describes it about as well as it can be described.

The only other thing I would add is an alternative to your visualization. Many people are able to achieve an exit through a visualization such as "the rope" or "log-rolling"; some can do it through a "stroll through the park" kind of visual.
I never could.

These are all techniques we began to call Rundowns.

What I came to be aware of, was that some Rundowns involved more movement than others. What has developed over the years are Rundowns that involve a specific TYPE of movement: that being rhythmic, up and down movements. Once you know what you're looking for, all sorts of variations present themselves.

Riding in a sports car down rolling hills, snow skiing a set of moguls, wake boarding, kite surfing, parasailing, riding a sled or tobaggon, snow tubing, surfing, motocrossing, sailing, soaring. And one of the first, thanks to an early Pulser named Selski, the trampoline rundown.

This particular movement helps to stimulate the energy body to the point of exit.

[Aaron330]

Do the exit when you've lost awareness of your physical body.  I wouldn't base it off of the noises and vibrations because the timing and presence of those things varies from person to person.

Here are the order of events for me.  Heavy lead blanket feeling, feeling presences around me or coming at me and maybe hear some noises, after that there is a very distinctive feeling which is hard to define but I'm going to say it's a total loss of awareness of the physical.  For me, I just know it's time to get up and go at this point.  Often I don't have to exit, I just find myself 'there.'  But if the change doesn't happen by itself, then use an exit technique.  When I was first starting, imagination alone wasn't enough to get me out, and I needed to use use some 'physical' force as well --like I was rolling out using my physical body.

It's easy to get distracted from your trance due to excitement or fear. You'll be able to feel your mind speeding up which will be death to your trance. Then either your trance won't deepen and your progress through the above mentioned stages will halt, or the trance will be ruined completely.

Good luck!  Hope this is helpful. 

That is fantastic, exactly the kind of advice I was looking for. Thanks!

As for the mind speeding up deal, this is my current problem, and has been for weeks. Any tips on how you avoid this? Maybe tricks about focusing on a certain thing so you can completely ignore the sensations? My problem is that it takes so long and so much effort to get to the point of a sleep paralysis trance, that as soon as I feel it waft over me I give a suddle "..yes!" type affirmation in my mind and it immediately goes away LOL. It's so frustrating.

[soarin12]

Don't think of it so much as 'ignoring' the sensations as being 'passively aware' of them.  If you think 'ignore' you might start trying to block out the sensations which would very counter productive.  The sensations are there and your going to notice them, just do so passively so that your mind stays slow.  That 'yes!' thing definitely ruins it, I know I've been there many a time!  You might benefit  by listening to repetitive rhythmic music.  It can really keep you focused and in the zone.  I wish I could recommend something specific, but I don't use it.  I use the same principle, however.  I usually have a pop song stuck in my head at some point during the day, so I just repeat the chorus over and over in my imagination to achieve my trance.  In this way I am able to lock into a repetitive groove in the back of my mind, and then just passively 'zone out' to it.  It becomes hard for the sensations to compete with the mesmerizing effect the music has on me, and so in this way they can not derail me. 

The other thing I consider important is what to do with my eyes.  I do the noticing technique where you watch a particular spot of light you may see behind your eyelids.  Watch it for awhile and then maybe passively move to another as it appears and so on.  The visual field begins to have depth and passively studying that depth helps to keep distractions at bay.   

[Aaron330]

Don't think of it so much as 'ignoring' the sensations as being 'passively aware' of them.  If you think 'ignore' you might start trying to block out the sensations which would very counter productive.  The sensations are there and your going to notice them, just do so passively so that your mind stays slow.  That 'yes!' thing definitely ruins it, I know I've been there many a time!  You might benefit  by listening to repetitive rhythmic music.  It can really keep you focused and in the zone.  I wish I could recommend something specific, but I don't use it.  I use the same principle, however.  I usually have a pop song stuck in my head at some point during the day, so I just repeat the chorus over and over in my imagination to achieve my trance.  In this way I am able to lock into a repetitive groove in the back of my mind, and then just passively 'zone out' to it.  It becomes hard for the sensations to compete with the mesmerizing effect the music has on me, and so in this way they can not derail me. 

The other thing I consider important is what to do with my eyes.  I do the noticing technique where you watch a particular spot of light you may see behind your eyelids.  Watch it for awhile and then maybe passively move to another as it appears and so on.  The visual field begins to have depth and passively studying that depth helps to keep distractions at bay.   

That's an interesting technique, I'll have to try that. I'm going to project in a few hours when I need to take a nap. I've been waking up every morning at 4:30 to project and I haven't even gotten close. I get closer to projecting when I go to bed at night and I have far and away the most success during afternoon naps. Everyone's different I guess.

The problem for me is that it feels like thinking about ANYTHING will throw me out of the trance. I think my issue is I just can't seem to get back into that full sleep paralysis again, I only get into partial ones which are easy to wreck. If I wake up to find myself in a full SP like I did a few weeks ago, it feels like nothing can ruin it at that point. I will definitely try your song technique for a while and see if it helps me continue on through a partial SP. If it does, I will be forever grateful! lol