Some Suggestions?

[bdam123]

Hi everyone,

My name is Brian and I'm a complete newb to Astral Projection, OBE, and Lucid Dreaming. I've read Astal Dynamics by Robert Bruce and numerous articles online. I've just began to dive into these forums and there is a bunch of stuff I still dont understand.

Anyway, I've made numerous attempts to project and have failed every time. Below is a description of what happens most of the time. Sorry if it get lengthly.

I start by laying on my back arms relaxed on my side. I focus on my breathing and try to clear my mind as well as I can. After about 15 min I start to feel my feet and hands tingle and go sort of numb. There have been a few time where they ached a little. I just ignore everything and try to stay completely still. Soon the numbing tingle takes over my whole body. At about this time it starts to get really hard to keep my mind clear. A few times I have accidentally fallen asleep. What I've found though, is that when I accidentally fall asleep and catch myself I will woke up to feeling deeper into the numbness. There have been time where I feel "separated" from my body to the point where it feels like it doesn't even exists. But even with that I have yet to get any vibrations or exit my body.

SIDE NOTE:

There was one incidence a few years ago that might be of interest to some of you. It was the morning after a failed attempt. I was laying face down and had woken up for some reason. I decided to try to fall back asleep and the moment I shut my eyes again I began to hear what sounded like a train in my room! After about 2 seconds I could see through my shut eyes and everything was in sort of a light red hue. I was convinced it was a projection. I sat up and looked at my own body laying there. I decided to float backwards toward my wall and drift through it. Once outside there was a stair case that normally wasn't there. Once I saw that I figured it really wasn't an OBE but a lucid dream. I went out to the street and met a young kid that was telling me I could fly. I attempted to fly towards the trees but could only jump really high. Thats all I really can remember.

Anyway, am I close? what am I doing wrong and what can I do to get closer to a successful exit.

[Contenteo]

You are on your way.

What you are training yourself to do if get to a strong F10 stage. (mind awake, body asleep) This is the meat and potatoes of every astral projection. It took me a good 30 straight in the begining of projection to get down F10. When I finally did, I dubbed a strong F10 the "Novocaine state" as your teeth should be resting against one another. It will feel like a dentist just Novocained your whole mouth.

This F10 will essentially become the foundation of the launchpad you will build in each experience. Light vibrations that go no where is a telltale sign that one's F10 isn't mature enough yet. You are trying to get out of body without even shutting off the physical sensory system in your body. Good Luck. So don't do that.

Point is, you are doing great. Keep practicing getting to that state. When things get wild in you mind. start visualizing a scene. focus on the scene. Stay awake. Live in this scene. This is a good next action to practice for a bit and then you can get to the next step in a couple weeks.

Cheers,
Contenteo


If you are serious about projection that is where you have to get to have a solid attempt in.

[marwanin]

I want to add: you have to do your attempts after 3-4 Hours of sleep Minimum
when you're experienced enough you will be able to get out (astral) anytime. [Very hard though]

[bdam123]

Awesome! Thanks for the info and encouragement.

If you don't mind, could I ask you where I can find some literature that described the stages that you are speaking of (F10 etc.)?

After I get the 3-4 hours of sleep should I stay up for a little before attempting or can I wake up and start right away?

[Anonymouse]

this could help you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_level

[bdam123]

Nice. Thank you!