Alien Abduction or OBE?

[Leyla]

My mother used to tell me endless stories about her "alien abductions" one of them being that they instructed her it was time to "breed" and that they tinkered around with my DNA, adding some of their own genetic material.

Of course, my mother is crazy.

People who think they have "alien abductions" are probably just having OBE's. Paralysis, the sensation of floating, flying....traveling to other worlds and communicating with upper dimensional entities... A classic out of body experience.

People who take DMT to induce astral projection commenly encounder the "elf doctors" or alien greys, who's job it is, apparently, to do energy work on your chakras and remove blockages.

But then I found this:

"The offspring of the angels illegitimate matings with human women were the Gibborim...Possessed of perishable protoplasmic bodies inherited from their mortal mothers and imperishable astral bodies inherited from there immortal fathers, the supernatural nature of the fallen angels, allowed them to move in and out of this dimension, leaving the bodies they inhabited in the flesh and escaping back to the other side. [1 Enoch 7; Jubilees 5]"

Hmm. Indeed.

I started to question things when I began to read Sumerian texts.  Every thing they described fits me: psychic abilities, out of body experiences, remote viewing, time travel...

That was the real clincher for me, the time travel part.

And also the part where they said they were intellectuals, who founded universities...many times I have fantasized about founding a university.

Who ever wrote that...they knew about me. Knew all about me. And they said I was a half-angel. Or half-alien. Depending on your belief system.

I have worked as a psychic for years. Is it through psychological "suggestion" that I developed my abilities?

When your own mother tells you you aren't fully human, it's bound to have some side effect. Do I have them because I just expect I must have them?

But I can't get past the Sumarian text, they are so exact, so detailed, and they were written thousands of years before my birth....

If only there was some type of genetic test to take, to put this all to rest.

[smooth]

wow, thats very interesting. I think if my mom said i was half alien i would tell her she was crazy.

I wonder if u could go in for just a simple blood test to see if u have any weird genedics u didnt know about.

Another queston, u said when people us DMT to induse astral projection. What is DMT? And how does it help induse an obe.

[Leyla]

DMT is a chemical your brain already contains. When you're born your pineal gland is uncalcified, then it hardens up as you become an adult. But this doesn't happen to all of us. They have figured out than an uncalcified pineal gland releases DMT into the brain and triggers an OBE.

I wrote some alien hunter guy I read about in the news paper. My mother hung out with him, (or was brainwahsed by him) and he met me as a child. I wrote him anonymously, not mentioning our past connection, and asked about a DNA test.

He said it wouldn't work, because you'd have to know exactly what mutation you're looking for, and of course I don't.

I'm probably better off not knowing.

[labouts]

Does she know who your father is/might be?

[Leyla]

Oh geeez....I hadn't even thought of that!  

[Joehadenuf-MOH-]

Hello Leyla,

It may seem out of place for me to comment on this, but, I am a bit confused as to how you perceive the alien abduction story. You claim you posses some extraordinary abilities (which I do not doubt) You deal with Astral Projection and OBEs, yet, besides your acknowledging of the Enoch texts, you appear (at least to me) to scoff at the idea of Extraterrestrial intervention. I do not bring this up to challenge your beliefs, but, lets say for instance, an outsider looking in on this forum might consider all of us to be a bit crazy. I'm not claiming I know your mother, and that is not my point, but, I wouldn't rule out any of those possibilities questioned in your post, especially given you current standing in life, as portrayed here.

Again, I do not wish this to be perceived as an attack or challenge, I merely wish to know your opinion.

Thanks, and good post.

[Hans Solo]

"The offspring of the angels illegitimate matings with human women were the Gibborim...Possessed of perishable protoplasmic bodies inherited from their mortal mothers and imperishable astral bodies inherited from there immortal fathers, the supernatural nature of the fallen angels, allowed them to move in and out of this dimension, leaving the bodies they inhabited in the flesh and escaping back to the other side. [1 Enoch 7; Jubilees 5]"

I am no scholar on the Enoch text but does he ACTUALLY write "Possessed of perishable PROTOPLASMIC bodies" or is this some New Age interpretation of a line of text?  Protoplasmic, I mean COME ON!!!  I can just see Enoch some thousands of years ago writing protoplasmic with his quill and berry juice upon a horse hide.  

Also, does he actually write ASTRAL bodies?  I serious DOUBT this.  In the bible they never actually use the word astral, instead it is always some murky description of a meeting with a deity that many associate with an "astral" projection.

Then there is the moving in and out of dimensions line.  Dimensions is a relatively new term in science and therefore this translation is probably VERY subjective.

If this is in fact translated from Enoch it was probably by a guy that was high on DMT or cannabis.

Han Solo

[Leyla]

Joehadenuf-MOH-

Okay. I see your point and all. I'm not offended. But I've met these "intelligent beings from other dimensions" and I'm certain they're not physical beings rolling around in a spaceship. I guess it's all in how you define "alien." What they did to my DNA...if indeed anything was really done at all...(my mothers only proof is that both she and my father were told by doctors before they met, that they could not have children. And taa-daa, I'm here) ....It would have had to have been done with "energy" somehow. I don't see how non physical being could accomplish something so physical as DNA tampering.


Hans Solo- LMAO!   Ummm. No. That was not a direct quote from the book of enoch, but rather, somone commentary on what was contained in the book of enoch.

[NickJW]

Is it not possible that these beings could be aliens from another planet, just with superior technology, some of which may allow them to use the astral plane as well as the physical? If, as nasa says, there is an estimated 10 000 other civilizations in our galaxy, you would think at least some of them have thought up of the astral theory? I personally think the theory that they are half angel and half human is unlikely as how would a non physical angel mate with a physial human. However, a physical alien may be able to mate with a human.

(btw, alien or extra-terrestrial applys to anything not from earth, so most astral beings which dont originate from your own mind or that never were human would be considered ETs, as well as physical aliens from other planets or other beings from other dimensions. )

[Joehadenuf-MOH-]

Is it not possible that these beings could be aliens from another planet, just with superior technology, some of which may allow them to use the astral plane as well as the physical? If, as nasa says, there is an estimated 10 000 other civilizations in our galaxy, you would think at least some of them have thought up of the astral theory? I personally think the theory that they are half angel and half human is unlikely as how would a non physical angel mate with a physial human. However, a physical alien may be able to mate with a human.

(btw, alien or extra-terrestrial applys to anything not from earth, so most astral beings which dont originate from your own mind or that never were human would be considered ETs, as well as physical aliens from other planets or other beings from other dimensions. )

Good point, I would have taken the time to further discuss the issue but, I had not assumed this was the time or place.

[Leyla]

I discussed this point exactly with a friend of mine, and his only response was "What's physical?"