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Fresco

Post a description of all life you encounter throughout the universe while AP'ing.
I never believed we were alone in the universe, its just too massive for us to be the only ones.

Here's a good site to read up on what one AP'er encountered in our solar system: http://www.soundcurrentrider.com/

nickspry

That's an interesting link. I think it's possible that the majority of alien life exists at other (non-physical) frequencies...

Myxo

Interesting, and I think that too, the aliens is not something about distance, rather about frequencies or dimentions maybe.
The more you know, you'll know more about you know nothing.

solbreaks

I have had some scary xp's with aliens. In the past i have woken up  in the dark paralyzed.  with what looked like an alien standing over me. its probly the most scared ive ever been in my life.  im thinking maybe its just spirit though.

kurtykurt42

Quote from: Myxo on March 13, 2010, 14:40:00
Interesting, and I think that too, the aliens is not something about distance, rather about frequencies or dimentions maybe.

Most stars are still pretty far away. But once you phase into the higher dimensions you can usually travel at about the speed of thought.

Quote from: solbreaks on March 13, 2010, 16:27:54
I have had some scary xp's with aliens. In the past i have woken up  in the dark paralyzed.  with what looked like an alien standing over me. its probly the most scared ive ever been in my life.  im thinking maybe its just spirit though.

Most aliens have spirits/souls/minds.  :-D

zareste

#5
I would think most abductions happen without the person knowing at all. The smarter humanoids can go in, do a quick check-up, and leave without you knowing. It's just the stupider ones who get caught. Sometimes they make a noise or they fail to keep you asleep or fail to erase your memory. I had an experiment done by a few dolts who did everything wrong. One was paying so much attention to his computer that he didn't notice me moving, and didn't notice my thoughts. It wasn't scary. I just kinda laid there and played along. Another came in and tried to squirt something in my eye and I got up, lol. It ended there and they haven't been a problem since. (I think they were testing a cure for cataracts - if I translated them correctly)

From what I've observed, a lot of abductions happen because the humanoids in question are living underground in your area. You'd be surprised how common it is to have a colony beneath you. Some people live above bad colonies that constantly badger them, but then they move away and the abductions stop.   A lot of these creatures come out at night when the sun can't affect them and people can't catch them. Most are as harmless as a human (or harmful, depending on how you look at it), some are tricksters, some have business on the surface, some are just wandering. They often hide in shadows or in dark forests, often wearing hooded cloaks so you'll mistake them for a person if you happen to spot one. (many are not good at clouding minds or staying invisible, so they use ordinary stealth)

It's kinda funny to think SETI is trying to find them through radio signals from the stars

Myxo

Quote from: zareste on March 13, 2010, 17:05:40
I would think most abductions happen without the person knowing at all. The smarter humanoids can go in, do a quick check-up, and leave without you knowing. It's just the stupider ones who get caught. Sometimes they make a noise or they fail to keep you asleep or fail to erase your memory. I had an experiment done by a few dolts who did everything wrong. One was paying so much attention to his computer that he didn't notice me moving, and didn't notice my thoughts. It wasn't scary. I just kinda laid there and played along. Another came in and tried to squirt something in my eye and I got up, lol. It ended there and they haven't been a problem since. (I think they were testing a cure for cataracts - if I translated them correctly)

From what I've observed, a lot of abductions happen because the humanoids in question are living underground in your area. You'd be surprised how common it is to have a colony beneath you. Some people live above bad colonies that constantly badger them, but then they move away and the abductions stop.   A lot of these creatures come out at night when the sun can't affect them and people can't catch them. Most are as harmless as a human (or harmful, depending on how you look at it), some are tricksters, some have business on the surface, some are just wandering. They often hide in shadows or in dark forests, often wearing hooded cloaks so you'll mistake them for a person if you happen to spot one. (many are not good at clouding minds or staying invisible, so they use ordinary stealth)

It's kinda funny to think SETI is trying to find them through radio signals from the stars


Maybe those entities control or drain something from humans , so the matrix movie would have a lot of sense.
The more you know, you'll know more about you know nothing.

zareste

some do, yeah. Everyone's a predator around here. I think it's also the reason we have an instinctive fear of dark and underground areas

Myxo

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Quote from: zareste on March 13, 2010, 19:28:10
some do, yeah. Everyone's a predator around here. I think it's also the reason we have an instinctive fear of dark and underground areas

I've had long episodes of my life living with paranoia, freaked looking everywhere and everyone like I would be supervised.

When you start to realize the reality would be an illusion and maybe humans are a kind of herd exploited for invisible entities purposes, you start to freaking out man, is terrible haha, I would like to clear many unknown stuff with astral entities, but is hard to confide all of them.

And you´re right, almost all my night experiences are acompanied with fear or mistrust at least, the fact is I´ve realized that when I have mind trust or encouragement, bad entities seems to become shy. Most of daylight experiences lack of fear, all the fear is in our mind, we most beat the mental barriers we create.

The more you know, you'll know more about you know nothing.

zareste

Hah, I did that for a while too - always freaking out, thinking Zetans could get me at any moment.

I think we often freak out just because it's something to do - it's interesting to fear some edgy new enemy. It's good to have a defense, of course, but the odds of having a bad abduction are not much higher than being hit by lightning. Eventually I realized it's not my biggest concern

I do think our apparent reality can be toyed with in many ways. 3 times in the past few years, I was thinking about reptilians, and suddenly the words I was thinking would appear somewhere in reality - like I'd see them on someone's shirt. It's pretty amazing. I haven't had many problems with reptiles that I know of. They are just stuck-up and occasionally express it in the physical environment.

I've been studying the inner workings of reality, and it really is a bit like the Matrix. There are layers upon layers of filters put there to make the universe perceivable to our little minds, and that leaves a lot of room for trouble-makers to butt in and alter what we see.

From what I understand, objective reality (the most real thing) is a set of raw data created by the inevitability of the universe, this data organizes into concepts, which are turned into physical space by a certain system (I haven't figured out what it is yet, but I'll call it the physical matrix) that interprets data as atomic patterns, these patterns are perceived by our atomic bodies (still existing within the matrix) and this information is routed to our minds by the physical matrix, and then our minds interpret what we're seeing by factoring it in with past experiences, and create a little holographic universe out of it. Our minds, notably, seem to exist on the upper data layer - not in physical form

So if an entity were to toy with any of these layers, they could have you perceive things that aren't there, or prevent you from perceiving things that are there (as many do). There could be solid physical objects (or beings) around you that are omitted from your perceived universe

I think the physical matrix is there to make things simpler for young minds like ours (most of ours). It interprets data so we don't have to. You know how hard it is to stay coherent when you're dreaming - when you're not attached to any one matrix and you have to do your own interpreting. It's more complicated, although it's less corruptible and far less confined.

So if my model is correct, dreams are more real than our everyday reality - just less familiar and less certain. They say the sorcerers of ancient times were mostly dreamers - a person can theoretically 'graduate' from the physical matrix by learning to dream

WASD

Interesting link in the first post :)
First and only (classic) OBE so far: 12th August 2009
LDs: Once per week :)

kurtykurt42

I've been studying the Native Americans in my spare time and the elders used to say that the dream world was the real world. They use to spend a lot of time praying to the spirits and would bury the dead with almost all of their possessions. The Shamans (translated as 'those that see in the dark') where messengers between the human world and the spirit worlds.

I haven't had any encounters with the reptilians either and I hope it stays that way...  :-D

Achak

So say hypothetically, we as humans developed advanced technology that allowed us to visit these other planets, all we would see is uninhabited barren land because our ability to perceive any other vibrational frequencies is limited?  Im curious as to why the human race on earth has such a different perception of things.  Its strange that all these other planets have the ability to perceive beyond their reality so easily, and earth is the only planet thats inhabitants are so finely tuned to this one frequency. Im curious as to what circumstances lead to such an outcome.

kurtykurt42

The earth exists on a dimensional plane known as the 3rd density. This is the most densely populated level, because it's the lowest. Other worlds out there that are 3rd density are usually populated by cave men, dinosaurs, Egyptians, Native Americans, etc.

If you wanna visit planets with dinosaurs and cave men then be my guest, but personally I would like to see advanced worlds with huge cities and advanced technology. To do this you need to be able to raise the frequency of your energy body to a higher dimensional plane. Technology can be used to assist you and without my assistive technology I would still probably be exploring the lower astral planes instead of the 5th density.

Achak

Of course, anyone would rather visit advanced cities with amazing architecture and technologies.  Its just a matter of the physical and frequencies. Scientists don't truly recognize this to the extent you and others might. For the human race at its current state of thought(That is, many lacking what you may know about exploration through raising energies, and how the universe and life functions.), to find life on the scope of human function without raising vibrations is revolutionary for the world in the here and now.  Cavemen on another planet would be one of the many greatest finds to occur.

zareste

I think the 'frequency' thing is exaggerated quite a bit. There are colonies on Mars that are plainly visible, even colonies on the back of our Moon we could see for ourselves. There are just organizations out there that want you to think you're all alone and have no friends in the universe.

You've probably walked past a reptilian on the sidewalk once and didn't notice

joel1212

Quote from: zareste on March 14, 2010, 07:13:56
Hah, I did that for a while too - always freaking out, thinking Zetans could get me at any moment.

I think we often freak out just because it's something to do - it's interesting to fear some edgy new enemy. It's good to have a defense, of course, but the odds of having a bad abduction are not much higher than being hit by lightning. Eventually I realized it's not my biggest concern

I do think our apparent reality can be toyed with in many ways. 3 times in the past few years, I was thinking about reptilians, and suddenly the words I was thinking would appear somewhere in reality - like I'd see them on someone's shirt. It's pretty amazing. I haven't had many problems with reptiles that I know of. They are just stuck-up and occasionally express it in the physical environment.

I've been studying the inner workings of reality, and it really is a bit like the Matrix. There are layers upon layers of filters put there to make the universe perceivable to our little minds, and that leaves a lot of room for trouble-makers to butt in and alter what we see.

From what I understand, objective reality (the most real thing) is a set of raw data created by the inevitability of the universe, this data organizes into concepts, which are turned into physical space by a certain system (I haven't figured out what it is yet, but I'll call it the physical matrix) that interprets data as atomic patterns, these patterns are perceived by our atomic bodies (still existing within the matrix) and this information is routed to our minds by the physical matrix, and then our minds interpret what we're seeing by factoring it in with past experiences, and create a little holographic universe out of it. Our minds, notably, seem to exist on the upper data layer - not in physical form

So if an entity were to toy with any of these layers, they could have you perceive things that aren't there, or prevent you from perceiving things that are there (as many do). There could be solid physical objects (or beings) around you that are omitted from your perceived universe

I think the physical matrix is there to make things simpler for young minds like ours (most of ours). It interprets data so we don't have to. You know how hard it is to stay coherent when you're dreaming - when you're not attached to any one matrix and you have to do your own interpreting. It's more complicated, although it's less corruptible and far less confined.

So if my model is correct, dreams are more real than our everyday reality - just less familiar and less certain. They say the sorcerers of ancient times were mostly dreamers - a person can theoretically 'graduate' from the physical matrix by learning to dream
good post

kurtykurt42

Quote from: zareste on March 14, 2010, 19:35:25
I think the 'frequency' thing is exaggerated quite a bit. There are colonies on Mars that are plainly visible, even colonies on the back of our Moon we could see for ourselves. There are just organizations out there that want you to think you're all alone and have no friends in the universe.

I think that the whole 'frequency' thing is under exaggerated and is understood by very few people. If more scientists understood that aliens exist at higher vibrational frequencies I think they might actually make a little bit of progress. When it comes to electrogravtic propulsion systems, even nuclear physicists don't know what the hell they are doing. "What makes that darn thing float in the air like that? :?"

Your mind plays a very important role with technology used for space travel, similar to how your mind works with your physical body. Without your mind in your body you won't be able to make it to the store. The trick is learning to stretch your mind through crystal, magnetic fields, and electricity. I believe that many saucer shaped UFOs are made of Bismuth or other crystalline metal composite. The propulsion system uses crystal spheres and very strong electro-magnetic field generators to encapsulate the disk in a bubble of higher dimensional energy (i.e. 4th density). In the blink of an eye your mind can take you to the farthest corners of the galaxy, but only if your physical / energy body can handle the gravity.

Xanth

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 14, 2010, 22:15:32
I think that the whole 'frequency' thing is under exaggerated and is understood by very few people. If more scientists understood that aliens exist at higher vibrational frequencies I think they might actually make a little bit of progress. When it comes to electrogravtic propulsion systems, even nuclear physicists don't know what the hell they are doing. "What makes that darn thing float in the air like that? :?"
Do science a favour then and find a way to prove it.  :)

Myxo

Quote from: zareste on March 14, 2010, 07:13:56
Hah, I did that for a while too - always freaking out, thinking Zetans could get me at any moment.

I think we often freak out just because it's something to do - it's interesting to fear some edgy new enemy. It's good to have a defense, of course, but the odds of having a bad abduction are not much higher than being hit by lightning. Eventually I realized it's not my biggest concern

I do think our apparent reality can be toyed with in many ways. 3 times in the past few years, I was thinking about reptilians, and suddenly the words I was thinking would appear somewhere in reality - like I'd see them on someone's shirt. It's pretty amazing. I haven't had many problems with reptiles that I know of. They are just stuck-up and occasionally express it in the physical environment.

I've been studying the inner workings of reality, and it really is a bit like the Matrix. There are layers upon layers of filters put there to make the universe perceivable to our little minds, and that leaves a lot of room for trouble-makers to butt in and alter what we see.

From what I understand, objective reality (the most real thing) is a set of raw data created by the inevitability of the universe, this data organizes into concepts, which are turned into physical space by a certain system (I haven't figured out what it is yet, but I'll call it the physical matrix) that interprets data as atomic patterns, these patterns are perceived by our atomic bodies (still existing within the matrix) and this information is routed to our minds by the physical matrix, and then our minds interpret what we're seeing by factoring it in with past experiences, and create a little holographic universe out of it. Our minds, notably, seem to exist on the upper data layer - not in physical form

So if an entity were to toy with any of these layers, they could have you perceive things that aren't there, or prevent you from perceiving things that are there (as many do). There could be solid physical objects (or beings) around you that are omitted from your perceived universe

I think the physical matrix is there to make things simpler for young minds like ours (most of ours). It interprets data so we don't have to. You know how hard it is to stay coherent when you're dreaming - when you're not attached to any one matrix and you have to do your own interpreting. It's more complicated, although it's less corruptible and far less confined.

So if my model is correct, dreams are more real than our everyday reality - just less familiar and less certain. They say the sorcerers of ancient times were mostly dreamers - a person can theoretically 'graduate' from the physical matrix by learning to dream

A friend of mine told me few days ago she started to hear voices while hypnagogic state, she noticed some beings who call us "the evolutives". this have a lot of sense to me.

I think all the evolutive organisms tend to develop self consciousness, more or less but it happens, as humans we are steping on the edge of consciousness and phisical insctinct, our brains are dual(one racional one for abstract perceptions), each hemisphere have a fight with the other, left hemisphere tends to count, meassure, classifying, being "realist"; the other tends to detect abstract stuff, like presentiments, creativity, muse inspiration, feelings, DREAMS, etc.

Some of you have feel sometimes like you are the evil one, the rebel being, black sheep or the crazy one, having fear asking them selves things like: "Is this the right path? Am I playing the roll of the fallen angel or rebel with god? Do I need to change and be normal?"etc. It is because society is trying to create a left-brain humanity.

Individuals who develop aspects of right hemisphere tends to be eccentrical like musicians, writers, mediums, artists or some supposed "irregular" behaviors.

Our right hemisphere is the bridge who links our phisical experience with the espitirual world. The ideas are throwed to that intangible realm and can be catched for another person who has the "inspirational muse". How many times we have djavus or the feeling of having listen a song before or as we were created it. You can send mental images and see it in the astral plane as well, for example:

Another friend was singing at work listening his ipod, so when he got in the office, all was serious, they tell him: do you hear that noise? it was like a ghost yelling, my friend laugh them(because he was singing but he's not a good singer hehe), so they take the pause for lunch and rest about 2 hours, he got slept when he start with the vibrations. In that astral proyection he saw a ghost yelling horrible, he tried to fight with it but he woke up.

What I understand here is a lot of people sending a mental idea to the astral plane, so I see it like a mind atmosphere, we can project what we think, and this dimentions is full of mind residuals, entities grappled to the phisical world, and another beings like zetas, reptilians or some of them who can moving between various planes.

I think next step of the human evolution is something to transcend consciousness beyond death.
The more you know, you'll know more about you know nothing.