outbursts of anger during OOBE

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purpleTiger

Sorry if a similar thread exists...i find it difficult to search on here, I know how to search, but a lot of times it comes up with irrelevant stuff.

I remember having my second OOBE...was sort of floating above the bed, and there was a spirit of a man near me, just watching...and I shouted at him. I don' know where that came from...he did nothing to upset me.
There was another time during an out of body experience...i was in my room, and a young female ghost. She was trying to say something....then my mouth opened, and I couldn't stop, I was  calling her all sorts...I felt so bad after this. I am not like this at all, I'm normally nice, polite and quiet.
Is this something else to learn when oobe/ap..to control emotions? Or does it simply mean  that i'm not as nice as I'd like to think

Astralzombie

Don't feel bad. I get upset all the time during OOBE. They're not all about puppies and sunshine so it's only natural that your emotions will vary. Besides, your non physical space is still your space and the ghost girl was violating it. Or maybe you were violating her space but it's all about perspective. And yes, we are supposed to learn from all of our experiences both the non physical and the physical. Sometimes we are purposely put into situations that will anger us.

QuoteOr does it simply mean  that i'm not as nice as I'd like to think

From what I have seen about myself personally, you have no idea how mean and dirty we have all been. This of course, depends on what you wish to believe about past lives and what not.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

Szaxx

It actually looks like you are being shown an aspect of yourself. You may not be even aware of it.
It's something you need to address in order to get to nicer places should you try again.

If you play video games and shout obscenities when losing thats another common issue lots of gamers suffer from.
You don't realise it until someone records you on video and you see it for yourself.

There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

purpleTiger

It actually makes sense, Szaxx. Now when i think back it did feel like i'm a cast member of Eastenders shouting abuse at someone across Queen Vic)))

Or it could be a release of emotions. I am a reserved, quiet person...on the outside anyway. Back then i couldn't express anger in a healthy way, so turned to self destruction....maybe this is why... I've changed a lot now, so hopefully I won't experience this again.

Bedeekin

Quote from: purpleTiger on June 25, 2013, 16:30:48
Back then i couldn't express anger in a healthy way, so turned to self destruction....maybe this is why... I've changed a lot now, so hopefully I won't experience this again.

Many people find themselves doing things that they wouldn't dream (no pun intended) of doing in real life.

It does seem to be a release of internal pent up aggression/ideas/wishes that cant be released or realised within societies' social parameters. Like Szaxx said, it's you holding a mirror up to 'you'. You may have changed externally; a social projection to satisfy your interaction with society no doubt. it's your internal world that truly matters. Consciousness exploration is the best therapy. ;)

Lionheart

Quote from: Bedeekin on June 25, 2013, 17:16:01
Many people find themselves doing things that they wouldn't dream (no pun intended) of doing in real life.

It does seem to be a release of internal pent up aggression/ideas/wishes that cant be released or realised within societies' social parameters. Like Szaxx said, it's you holding a mirror up to 'you'. You may have changed externally; a social projection to satisfy your interaction with society no doubt. it's your internal world that truly matters. Consciousness exploration is the best therapy. ;)
Not only is this true, but I find that when I do something in my Dream World (NPR) that normally I don't do in my physical reality, it makes an excellent "Reality Check" and always causes me to remember and recall said experience.

I find the same to be true with "terror" Dreams. I always become consciously aware I am in them, then I deal with them accordingly.

Sometimes the way I deal with them is by going back into the scenario completely consciously aware, then "Re-scripting" them.

Bedeekin

That's why this should be used in conjunction with traditional therapy. It should be used medically for this reason alone. If the scientific community stopped trying to prove whether it's 'real' or not using half-assed experiments and looked at the benefits... things would be a whole lot different. Imagine a world where psychiatric therapy involved a traditional one on one approach mixed with metaphysical therapy.

Astralzombie

Quote from: Bedeekin on June 25, 2013, 17:31:37
That's why this should be used in conjunction with traditional therapy. It should be used medically for this reason alone. If the scientific community stopped trying to prove whether it's 'real' or not using half-assed experiments and looked at the benefits... things would be a whole lot different. Imagine a world where psychiatric therapy involved a traditional one on one approach mixed with metaphysical therapy.

I recently watched a show in which some top companies are using dream therapy and analysis to improve morale and overall performance of their workers. The show was biased but was overall positive in it's conclusions. Many people were hesitant to participate since Americans see a conspiracy in everything, including French fries, and thought this might be some sort of intrusive...well you get the point. But one guy got a huge bonus after he dreamed about a solution to a problem on the production line.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

Bedeekin

That's pretty cool.

You mean 'freedom fries'  :wink:

roman67

It normally happens with everyone in their OBE's. Everyone has some bad experiences about their OBE's. Have you tried to communicate with the man?

purpleTiger

Quote from: roman67 on June 26, 2013, 02:34:47
It normally happens with everyone in their OBE's. Everyone has some bad experiences about their OBE's. Have you tried to communicate with the man?
the man, unlike girl ghost, was...well, i could not see him, i felt his presence near and sort of got a mental image of what he would look like if i could see him. Even got the first letter of his name...but like i said, i then got angry and he probably left ad i don't remember much after that.

soarin12

I remember having an OOBE where I got really angry.

The last few OOBEs I had had involved very fearful SP episodes so I went into this phase projection with the intent to meet a guardian angel or guide that would help me and comfort me.  As I entered SP and stared into the blackness, I saw a beautiful multicolored eye with long eyelashes looking back at me.  It was very entrancing and I watched it for a long time.  I then got to the point where I usually click into an adventure, but this time that didn't happen.  The eye disappeared and there was only blackness.  Then a voice spoke to me.  It said "Hi!  I'm Cara!""  Now my own name is Cara so I was immediately taken a back.  I will add that the "Cara person" had my voice as well so she seemed to be, in effect, me.  I replied to her defensively. I said, "No, I'M Cara!"  She responded back that she was Cara.  I then asked her if she was my guardian angel and she said No.  At that point I just got really mad. Unfortunately, I don't remember the rest of the conversation, but I do remember being really annoyed with her responses to me.  At the end of our conversation I'm pretty sure I swore at her and told her to get away from me and never come back.

When I woke up I was still mad and took awhile to cool off.  When I did, I really wished I had approached the whole thing more level headed.  Because of the rotten SP stuff, I guess I had decided a better experience was "owed" to me and when I didn't meet that angel I snapped.  I had quite the entitlement mentality! lol.   I also distrusted the "other me" cuz it was just too weird.  Wonder what I would have learned if   I had put away fear, distrust, and a deserving attitude?  Am I the only weirdo that has had a conversation with myself???  LOL

Astralzombie

QuoteWonder what I would have learned if   I had put away fear, distrust, and a deserving attitude? 

Maybe you learned what you were supposed to learn. A similar experience may be coming in which you will be needed calm and in control and this little episode was a preemptive.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

Szaxx

It does sound like you were being shown an aspect of self here as well.
Also it may be showing you the way to understand we all have a bad day. Your immediate reaction was to get offensive,  this happens to EVERYONE so watch out for it.
It may be their bad day and you are in the firing line. Be clever and help them, some good friendships are created this way.
Someone reading this will be in this position very soon. :wink:
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

soarin12

Thanks for your comments, guys, and I agree it was a good learning experience.  I have heard the expression "aspect of self" a lot but don't really know the exact meaning.  Does it mean I'm being shown my own personality / character traits?

Szaxx

Yes, it will be something that needs a bit of work on to make you a better person.
If you can sort it out, you'll be liked by those who matter.  :wink:
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.