astral encounters..

[sashamasha]

First off, I don't know what RTZ is, so I am functioning from a certain level of ignorance.  Nevertheless:  I've recently had some experiences somewhat like this, where I was definitely projecting, no question, yet to some place that was and yet was not my neighborhood. There were lucid dream-like characteristics (i.e. flying, moving with ease) but I was fully alert and operating in projection mode, and I had to use projection rules to move around, communicate, see, etc.  It seems many people believe this makes it a dream, not a projection, but I know it was a projection.  But not garden variety.

[Nagual]

Personaly, I've never been in the RTZ (Real-Time Zone) as far as I know; and still I can go through walls or ground/rocks, even in some weird (obviously not RTZ) worlds...

[Zangatese]

so no one agrees on negetive encounters being useful or trying to tell you something about yourself??[xx(]

i guess iam over focusing on the RTZ slightly..its just that i loved that passing-through-solid-objects feeling so much![8D]

quote:But not garden variety.

lol what exactly do you mean by this sashamasha?

[Selski]

Oh boy.  The empathiser is back!  After reading your post, I felt I must share some of mine with you.  We seem to have similar experiences.  Perhaps it's an English female thing!!!

I have OBEs where I am in familiar surroundings (my house), but things are wrong.  Sometimes I can go through walls, on Saturday I couldn't even get through the wardrobe door (I was very confused about this, I can normally get through most things).  I also met an Indian man in my bedroom (?) and we hugged and I started kissing him.  Haven't a clue what that was about (but it was nice!).

I don't know whether I end up in RTZ or an astral plane, or whether bits of dreams interfere with my experiences.

I had one OBE where I was going up the road, about 10 feet in the air.  I looked down and spotted a cat, which saw me and leapt up to try and swipe me with its paw.  I was so surprised at this, I immediately woke up!  We haven't got a cat like that in the neighbourhood.

From what you've said about learning from your experiences, I will think about this one and what the cat actually meant to me.  I think you have something here and perhaps we can't reach that blissful state until we've gone through some quite strange stuff first?!

To be honest, I'm not that bothered about putting a label on what actually happens to me - as long as it continues happening to me, I'm happy!

Ho hum.

[Zangatese]

We DO seem to share a lot of similar experiences. Those that you mentioned have happened to me in the same way.

quote:I also met an Indian man in my bedroom (?) and we hugged and I started kissing him. Haven't a clue what that was about (but it was nice!).

I had one OBE where I was going up the road, about 10 feet in the air. I looked down and spotted a cat, which saw me and leapt up to try and swipe me with its paw. I was so surprised at this, I immediately woke up!

Spooky!!

[sashamasha]

garden variety is plain, ordinary.  the usual.  where the heck that saying came from I couldn't begin to say.  it's a bit silly.

or, if you know what garden variety means, then I mean that that particular projection wasn't the usual kind... there was something quite significantly different about it, and it's still bugging me, trying to figure out what or how or why.  

I mean, it's kind of driving me crazy, attempting to determine whether these are ALL dreams, with dream symbols, or symbols placed there outside our individual selves... then you get into the universal conciousness and universal symbols... ACK!  brain freeze!

what I know is what I know.  I don't know where my experiences fit among everyone else's, I don't know whether we are all in the same classroom, but I know that something happens, I am not in my bed, I am not dreaming, I am awake yet I am not in my body, whatever the experience, or who I meet or speak to.  

But about your swatting cat... my theory is that there are animals that project like we do, and they may be a little better at it than we.  We may know them or not.  Ok must stop.  Brain really does hurt now.  Too much wine tonight.

[Zangatese]

Ok. Last night and the night before prompted two spontaneous projections, both of which have lead me to some realisations:

IAM NO LONGER PROJECTING STRAIGHT INTO THE RTZ. I seem to be by passing RTZ for some place in the astral that vaguely resembles my house/area.

I know this because when iam RTZ i can pass through walls and windows. Now when i get out of body, i can feel the walls and have to open windows to get out!

This wouldnt normally bother me. But I wanted to stay RTZ just to confirm some things like the card trick amongst other things.

Second realisation:

Everything that you encounter in the astral has a meaning that resembles something in your life.

With the first projection, everything was fine until as i began to fly (iam still training to fly properly) i was charged and jumped at by a bull who randomly appeared.
At first i thought it might be friendly but then i realised that it definately wasn't. I then proceeded to try and blow it up or somehow remove it with my mind. Nothing happened and it seemed to know what i was trying to do and got madder. I got scared and that was the end of that.

After some thought i realised that this represented something in my life which needs addressing and is slowing my progress. I won't go into details but needless to say it got the message across.

The second projection i had this morning entailed me meeting a man who was looking for money. He asked me and i told him i didnt have any, and noting my attire (or lack of), he said 'how could you have any money? You dont even have any clothes on'. I looked down and confirmed that i was indeed wearing no more than a t shirt, my night wear. That got a few laughs when i woke up.[]

Anyway he went on with his hunt for money while i tried to help the people he was getting it off of by shooing them away. But one trusting guy took us back to his house and there this money grabber was trying to get this guys stuff..I tried to bail out but couldnt find the exit..

Anyway this obviously is trying to convey something else to me..i just dont know what yet..but writing it all down here helps..so thanks to the pulse for that.

At first i thought i was wasting my astral time with negetive encounters like this, but i think some things are necessary to help you learn. I would love to go straight to higher planes and chill there, but i think certain things may present themselves to you in the astral that need addressing in real life before you can do that. I may be wrong.

comments welcome..