New and full of questions & also a long documented attempt

[2jttz]

First off I'm Zach this is my first post, I hope it is in the correct section...
Also I apologize about spelling I tryed to get this down quick so I wouldn't forget just ask me to reword something if it doesn't make much sense
Thanks guys

I started to feel a slight tingle in my feet, I could tell they were falling asleep as where my hands, they start my feeling warm them tingly the light weight. The feeling is all over at this point my body feels asleep,iv been this far before. I notice I get random iches and twitches as I get deeper which really distracted me and and cause me to jump back a few steps, At a point I fell deep enough that I forgot completely about my body but only for literal seconds before having an almost da jah vue like felling not really where I felt as if something has happened like this before but almost like when your almost asleep and you dream for a split second not even long enough to create an image but you were there then wake instantly.... Mixed with the head change feeling associated with de jah vue, that happened about two to three times randomly, the only imagery or vision of anything that I saw was I thought I saw a white light or I guess a white blurry circle in the center of the blackness of my eye lids, I kept focusing on it then it went away and small ripples of smoke appeared in the center of the blackness which then started to look almost look like a small part of the milky way as of viewed from the vacuum of space but then quickly started to look like a body made of light but not quite a body shape but close like the shape of a torso with no arms lehs just center mass, I only saw it in pulses of rippling light the started in center and worked out from center both left and right but not up and down to create the shape.

Now keep in mind this only lasted a mere seconds like between 10-20 seconds also this didn't happen at the same time I felt the da jah vu sensation I spoke of earlier... An I'm pretty sure the images were only 2d as if one was looking at a picture and the image was small and occurred only in the center of the blackness of my eye lids and the only colors were black and white

Also Another thing i would like to address and idk if its normal but I would like to know if you guys experience this but when I saw the  blurry white circle and the vision of smoke which was vivid much more the the some what body shaped light  every time I try to focus on the image I would notice my eyes would twitch uncontrollably which felt weird almost as if my eyes where "seizuring" I started seeing more light which made me think I was twitching my eyelids open ever so slightly, but im not sure cause there wasnt much light in the room, it didn't effect the image or cause the image to shake or move the image was stationary but it was distracting...

another thing i was told to visualize my room & surroundings,  i could imagine everything in my room and could perceive its distance and angle of view but I could not actually create an image or see anything just that I knew it was there and what it looked like just as if you where to be wide awake on your couch and close your eyes for a second you remember what the room your in looks like due to the memory of before you shut your eyes & how it looks but you can't actually see how it looks, or even try to create an image  or vividly visualize it, does that make any sense? At one point I imagined me jumping out of my body and running out of my room in the basement and running up the stairs an out the front door at the speed of sound but I could not visualize any of it I could only imagine it no differently than i could if I was to be Driving my car an imagined it..... Basically I thought of it but couldn't visualize or Make it a sensible reality I just felt my body in paralysis, but could move if i wanted to...well minus the back of my neck and my freaking salivating mouth that kept really distracting me, I kept feeling the need to swallow through out this whole process about once every 5 min also I would get random iches and muscle twitches. towards the end I got really annoyed that laid there for an hour and a half but kept salivating so I called it quits for the night.

I really hope all that made sense an I really hope someone is willing to take or even have the time to read this and reply to all parts of this post to help me understand, thanks

I want to thank y'all in advanced for any replies

Also if you need to re explain or reword certain parts just let me know

-Z

Ohh also one thing I'd like to add I get the rapid eye twitch every time I try, almost always when I start to get an image of something like I time I started to see my face but as if it was an image made of a sonar wave that every time it pulsed it would make a and image that would fade until the next wave hit never raiding comeately, the image was not solid but opaque almost like a fogged glass like the kind that they make to look fogged 

[ChopstickFox]

Welcome! You have a lot going on in there, but I will tackle what I can, hehe.

There are a lot of different methods out there with the goal of all reaching the same place. Mind awake, body asleep. Sometimes visualization can be the key for people, but you have to be careful to not let your thoughts distract you. You want your body to fall asleep while you are still aware. A common practice involves passive visualization. It is completely common to start seeing images before you fall asleep. Just not everyone is aware of them. They might lose their awareness before seeing them. Forcing wont be much help. Just passively observe what you see and you might find better luck. Don't take my word for it though. Experiment.

The rapid eye thing is pretty common. Sometimes my eyes wig out too. Covering them can help. I learned that from other members here. It also can help differentiate if you have your eyes open or seeing things in your mind. For sound of mind at the least. I know sometimes I find myself looking around my apartment and it can be a sign that I am in an obe and not just have my eyes open. To each their own.

What you see, whether it's a bright light, fog, or whatever, is perfectly normal. Just like what was mentioned earlier you want to be passively aware and observant. I've had a flash come out of no where, colors, sometimes a very quick flash of images, more often than not swirly cloud like things. It's just all part of it. Just relax, observe, and see what happens.

[2jttz]

Hey thanks for the reply, I know I typed a hefty amount there and it's pretty jam packed

That helps alot!!!! Also i forgot to ask, What are some signs that I may me on the virge of obe for when I get to that point? Iv heard that so people get vibrations, is there anything else I could associate with a breakthrough ? I say associate because I'm not nessesarly set on looking for these symptoms because iv been told that can hinder my experience by thinking to much.

Also any type of recommended aid or method for a beginner ? Not trying to rush it more so trying to understand what to expect (knowledge freak here hehe)  ?

Thanks again guys
Zach

[ChopstickFox]

There's all sorts of guides and such all over the forum. It's really a gold mine. I would check out the pinned topics then branch out, using the search function if needed.

The signs are indeed those vibrations, sometimes popping noises, sleep paralysis, or such. Bedeekin just posted a bunch of good sources in a post I stumbled across earlier. Let me try to find them for you. Ninja powers go!

Edit: Shameless stealing of other post... bwahaha

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39504726/Phasing_Primer.pdf

[2jttz]

thanks man, this really helps me get a better understanding!!! also thanks for the links im about to go dive into one now!
i cant express enough how much i appreciate the help !!!

-zach