http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htu8FchIjg4
Came across this video on youtube and was intrigued. The stuff he says here goes against mostly everything I've read on these forums, so I didn't give it much weight. But this guy seems pretty convinced there are real dangers to projection. The lower 4th dimension, evil etheric thought forms in the RTZ, etc. I know these are all real things we can "experience" if we believe it, but I am certain they aren't any kind of real danger. However this Bob Sanders guy says these evil beings can attach to you and you can bring them back to the physical and be tormented by them.
I am interested to hear what you guys have to say about his opinions. I have always been intrigued by "demonic possession" in this sense because I've seen many "demonic deliverances" in my evangelical Christian days that were pretty flabbergasting. Older women speaking with the voice of a large man, super-strength of throwing grown men off them with one arm, etc. I wonder if any of this "attachment" business is true. What do you guys think?
I haven't checked the link out yet, but I have to say this:
I have been projecting for nearly forty years and had nothing more than what I later learned are hypnagogic distractions. Don't get me wrong, these can be horrendous when they spin out of control! They can scare the crap out of you, but they can't hurt you; although it doesn't feel that way in the moment. :-D
Monroe and Bruce, describing various 'negs' that attack and attach...haven't had any that I've recognized. Maybe I haven't spent enough time in the RTZ/Etheric areas, maybe not been deep enough into the Astral Proper as opposed to the Personal; for me, it's still inconclusive.
Maybe I don't carry the personal baggage that attracts them; but I seriously doubt I am that 'clean'...I know that I have plenty of issues that might cause me problems out there! Lol
He's a fear-monger... plain and simple.
Ignore him.
Figured so. It sounds a little ridiculous that something from the astral can attach itself to you even into the physical anyway. I've read through all Frank's posts and he always addresses this topic with the same answer. "Negs" are all in your head. Don't be afraid of them and they have no power
I don't get my sense of safety from believing that possession/attachments don't exist. I get it from knowing (through experience) that I can control what I let into my experience. I know that I'm not perfect at being fear free, so I do experience a neg from time to time. But I am confident that my general state of mind is peaceful enough to be able to project safely without any serious problems. I didn't watch the video but it stands to reason that a long term negative frame of mind could produce a long term negative 'attachment'. Like attracts like.
The astral can follow you into the physical. -Just kind of bleeds in. I've had some nasty growling animal noises and a kind of crinkling/russeling noise come into the physical after I phased a couple times. People see dream characters for a little while after they wake from a dream sometimes. -that would be a hallucination. (I'm not talking about a false awakening) Of course people with certain mental illnesses hallucinate these characters often. The more fearful you are, the nastier the characters will appear to be. I can see this kind of thing terrifying people to the point that it continues to 'haunt' them because they allowed their fear to spin out of control.
I can also see the point of view of believing that none of this stuff exists. In my view, that would be in the same vein as saying that NOTHING really exists except pure consciousness or spirit. True. So you can look at it from that 'absolute' level that it doesn't exist or a 'relative' one that it (and everything) exists in order to teach us.
Your mind generates thought forms. ( oh there she goes again) Basically any thought fear desire you have becomes a sort of a spirit. This is the only thing that can attach itself to you because it is part of you. When you project the side of your being that you tend to bury comes out as something visible and audible, and creates this impression. This is a great challenge and the thoughtforms should be eliminated. The elimination of such beings is accomplished by taking energy away from them. So exposing the basic emotion that is causing them and resolving the issues around that emotion is how the energy is removed. I tend to bury emotion and thus have a lot of experience dealing with this. .... sometimes it's frustrating