astral travel into physical world?...

[JustAnotherOne1]

okay so ive been researching about astral travel for awhile... ive had obe since about 14... im 24 now... i thought i had sleep paralysis at first and i would always think that it was the bed poking me or feels like somethings holding me down... then i read u on this stuff about a few months ago... i never really believed in obe until my buddy told me his experiences... occasionally i would have obes subconsciously... yesterday night i had all the feelings of going into astral space... i would always fight it off... but this time i thought mabe ill try it out... so i layed there as my body felt like it was getting fuzzy and pushed down and didnt fight the feeling... then before i knew it i was floating above myself... i dont remember how i got to a forest... but i was walking in a forest in my obe... then it got darker and darker and darker... i was lost and trying to find the light... i tried crawling through a hole in the fence line next to the forest... i didnt make it... i could feel the presence of a female of some sort... it was evil... i was not afraid... i fought it off... until it grabbed me and turned everything very dark... thats when i snapped... i forced myself to wake up... and at the exact same time i woke up... something knocked over my some of the things on my cabinet... it made a loud noise... right at the same time i woke up... is this a mere coincidence? and how did my things get knocked over... was it me returning back? or was it the being that was holding me down running away... i felt it run away towards my cabinet... i dont know...

[Astralzombie]

Welcome. This sounds like an amazing night.

I'm gonna be matter of fact, and understand that I am not telling you what to believe, that's all for you to decide and no one else.

I am 100% certain that you did not cause the things to move around while returning to your body because you never went anywhere. The reason why I say this is for another discussion. With that said, are you familiar with poltergeists? This is when phenomena occurs and is usually attributed to a teenage girl dealing with her own overwhelming emotions. She causes things to move unknowingly through her untapped physic abilities while trying to deal with her emotions.

Like I said, this is usually how it is explained but a few instances have been documented where it involves males and they tend to be older. Is it possible that this OOBE felt so real to you that poltergeist phenomenon could be the explanation? Doubtful but who knows.

Most likely, nothing moved. You woke up in a state of sleep paralysis and heard things moving. Read the following threads and decide for yourself if this satisfies you.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/sleep_paralysis_the_intruder_or_presence-t40033.0.html

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/sleep_paralysis_auditory_hallucinations-t40020.0.html

If not, we need to nip something in the bud now before you convince yourself of something. No evil entity followed you back and moved your things. Many people whom I respect deeply disagree with me on this but I can only speak from my own perspective.

Did you have an oobe? Yes, absolutely. Did you perceive evil? Yes but it doesn't really exist. Did you leave your body? No, there's nowhere to go.

Don't be confused if you can't understand the paradox of what I said. It will take some more OOBE for you to come to understand what I believe to be true. But you may never believe it as I do. I hope that is every ones' truth.

Good luck and I hope you get your answers.

[JustAnotherOne1]

i guess it doesnt help that my parents are shamans... but yes... it was very real... something knocked over the things on my cabinet... when i awoke at the same time... i saw it was thrown and it made a loud crack... i might have been scared for a split second... i went to go put my things back up... maybe i will cam cord myself sleeping next time... i also remember telling something to go away and leave me alone a few times...

[Lionheart]

 Hello and Welcome to the Astral Pulse!  

I have a couple of questions for you;

1. How do you know she was evil?

2. What does your parents being "Shaman" have to do with this?

[JustAnotherOne1]

Gut feeling also had a brief encounter of its intentions

[mr_coffee]

I feel fear is a very human emotion that can manifest itself into something more.  The more you believe something the more real it gets.  I wouldn't recommend video taping what you feel is a bad entity.  By video taping you are basically making it even more real by feeling you can catch it up on tape. 

Also next time you encounter something scary in the astral don't fight it, either let it know your not afraid or embrace it in love.  You can transform fear into love much easier than trying to fight fear as it will only make it stronger the next time you're in the astral as it will always be on your mind.   

[Volgerle]

We had a discussion here a while ago about using the Etheric Body in a projection to move things with telekinesis and have effects such as producing raps. The classic OBEr Sylvan Muldoon did this a lot as documented in his works. This could be an explanation.

[Szaxx]

We had a discussion here a while ago about using the Etheric Body in a projection to move things with telekinesis and have effects such as producing raps. The classic OBEr Sylvan Muldoon did this a lot as documented in his works. This could be an explanation.

This actually works.

[JustAnotherOne1]

thanks for the advice guys!... ill remember to do that next time... its the weirdest things too... everytime i wake up its always things smashing and loud noises... i dont know why...

[Lionheart]

thanks for the advice guys!... ill remember to do that next time... its the weirdest things too... everytime i wake up its always things smashing and loud noises... i dont know why...

This will explain why: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/sleep_paralysis_auditory_hallucinations-t40020.0.html