i am wondering if anyone has (in a projection) flown to any other solar systems or any where of intrest at that. legit answers only.
Yes.
Over the years a few AP'ers have posted their experiences of travelling in and outside the solar system, looking in on other systems and like me, who posted about finding an edge to our universe like a membrane bubble skin. Outside of our Bubble were billions more. I saw two bubbleverses touch gently which sparked enough energy for another big bang to birth a new universe. Some years later I again saw that perspective but from a different vantage point where all the bubbleverses were in a layer, almost like the foam when wind whips it up on the waves. Since then I haven't journeyed outside or 'above', depending on your view, for a few years now.
The Search function should bring up a few posts written be a variety of people over the years, I hope.
"Over the years a few AP'ers have posted their experiences of travelling in and outside the solar system, looking in on other systems and like me, who posted about finding an edge to our universe like a membrane bubble skin. Outside of our Bubble were billions more. I saw two bubbleverses touch gently which sparked enough energy for another big bang to birth a new universe. Some years later I again saw that perspective but from a different vantage point where all the bubbleverses were in a layer, almost like the foam when wind whips it up on the waves. Since then I haven't journeyed outside or 'above', depending on your view, for a few years now."
YES! Finally I get more information on these bubbles! That little paragraph answered some questions I've been asking for years - so apparently these bubbles are real 3d membranes and not a metaphore or a 4d phenomena.
Is there anything else you observed? The texture or color of the membranes? Any direct links to articles people wrote?
I heard about it when I was talking to someone. She was once sleeping in a Buddhist temple and saw this 'memory' of some humanoids who had been flying through the universe in a rather impressive craft (details here http://www.ufocasebook.com/etoriginofmankind.html ) - she doesn't mention it in the article, but I contacted her and asked what the universe looks like when you're flying through it. I figured maybe it resembled an organism, but she said it's a set of bubbles moving around and bouncing off each other. That was all she said and I was rather confused. (she says a lot of things that even my wildest studies haven't touched on)
Some time later, I was talking to a Reptilian fellow (very odd story) and he elaborated, saying it's a set of bubbles and also layers. The layers oscillate and move the bubbles around, altering the way material behaves in each bubble. He said ours is the only one with galaxies, strangely. Once again I couldn't get anymore answers.
We live in a strange universe
Hi Zareste,
I was too excited observing to think of looking for more details.. the experiences were simply awesome. I do remember the membrane was able to be passed through.. but it should since we are not using a form when travelling, and I wasn't using the astral subtle body as I journey only in awareness... not sure if that is called projecting or not.
Not surprised to see someone else who has had contact with reptilians, I also had a meeting with one about 9 or 10 years ago which was very interesting.. then within the week one in humanised form arrived at the research groups monthly meeting.. that spun the three sensitives in the room I can tell you. Funny thing too was that all the people who made loud claim to be psychic or highly spiritual noticed nothing at all.. I thought that was hilarious. I did posty about the meeting with this emissary, so it should still be available by searching my posts perhaps.
Ahaha, I'll bet the - uh - spiritual people were of the 'love and light' sort. Man they are terrible.
I got another piece of information saying the Milky Way is actually a combination of two galaxies that collided some millions of years ago, leading to conflicts between the inhabitants. I always wanted to see this galaxy from the outside and confirm that. It'd be funny if the Milky Way turns out to have a dual nucleus, and astronomers' theories about colliding galaxies have already come true
Hee hee, methinks you are correct in the first statement.
I've seen recent photos of colliding galaxies, and it is thought our Galaxy swallowed another smaller one at some time which left us with the debris that hides between the arms of the galaxy. I can't imagine the mayhem to life-forms who experience these collisions.. the gravitational pulls would be enormous.
Thanks Tayesin,
yeah the bubble theory talk has piqued my interest over the last year or so. Following Upstreams' thoughts is difficult and demanding, but ultimately intriguing! Any more info or past posts you could point our way would be most appreciated.
By way of reptilians, are you seriously meaning the David Icke variety? I mean I'm open, but even my 'conspiracy' leanings only lean so far... though I do harbor suspicions, :-D
All the best, EV
"By way of reptilians, are you seriously meaning the David Icke variety? I mean I'm open, but even my 'conspiracy' leanings only lean so far."
That had to be the dumbest paragraph ever.
"it is thought our Galaxy swallowed another smaller one at some time which left us with the debris that hides between the arms of the galaxy."
Or maybe we're from the smaller one. Pfft. The humanoid who talked about this collision said it as though we're intruding on 'their' galaxy. What an butt.
A dual galaxy would also explain the frequency of binary stars around here. Maybe if those tales of Nibiru are correct (and that'd be nice to confirm astrally), Nibiru might have been thrown out of Sirius during the collision.
But they say, due to the immense distance between stars, the chances of mass destruction on a planet are pretty slim. Still it would disrupt consciousness systems, I imagine.
I had the honor of seeing the Greys' star map one time - at least I think it was theirs because of the information in it. Quite a trip that was. Someone interrupted my dream and I found myself watching the Solar System from the outside. It was just a little dot, with Sirius nearby, and countless other stars with unique colors. I moved slowly backward through the stars, surprised at how distant they are from each other. They had feelings associated with them that became more intense when I neared them - each had a unique feeling but they were all alien to me. There were icons with data about life in each system. I guess that's the data they collect when they're probing planets and experimenting on animals
I could fly freely and sorta got lost in the mass of stars near the galactic nucleus. In my tranced state, I thought I had lost the Solar System forever. Whoever showed me this system had to pull me out.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on August 26, 2009, 23:46:45
yeah the bubble theory talk has piqued my interest over the last year or so. Following Upstreams' thoughts is difficult and demanding, but ultimately intriguing! Any more info or past posts you could point our way would be most appreciated.
By way of reptilians, are you seriously meaning the David Icke variety? I mean I'm open, but even my 'conspiracy' leanings only lean so far... though I do harbor suspicions, :-D
A couple of years back I was reading a printed article about some avenue of quantum math reaching a point where it was no longer "beautiful", meaning it simply did not make sense anymore when working from the premise of there being only 10 dimensions. In the article they spoke about a man who way back in the 1940's or so was proposing 11 dimensions and showed his "beautiful" math as supporting the idea, of course he was shot down in flames by all those who believed they knew better than him. He died a poor and broken man. Yet recently his work was looked at again and replicated to find that indeed he was very much correct, and not only that, his math described a Multiverse consisting of Bubble-shaped universes!! When I read that article I was so excited because for me it affirmed what I had experienced as reality.
Davic Icke's variety of reptoids is from my own experience very much probable, with the possible exception of the British Royal family being Reptilians, although we cannot prove this is not the case given the extremely long control methodology perpetrated on humanity by the lineages involved. This race has been on our world many times over the long history of humanoid existence for a regular harvesting program. Because they are consumers of all things energetic they harvest what they like the best, just as we do with Animals and Plants which are both aware forms of life here.
While on this subject, a few years back a friend arrived on my doorstep excited about a movie he had seen, which was called "Signs" and starred Mel Gibson. So we rented the movie and watched it together, and when it reached the point of showing the reptilian species I had hair standing up on the back of my neck and a deep "Yes" feeling from within. Why? Because the race was portrayed exactly as I had experienced astrally and physically.
Quote from: Tayesin on August 27, 2009, 10:35:26
While on this subject, a few years back a friend arrived on my doorstep excited about a movie he had seen, which was called "Signs" and starred Mel Gibson. So we rented the movie and watched it together, and when it reached the point of showing the reptilian species I had hair standing up on the back of my neck and a deep "Yes" feeling from within. Why? Because the race was portrayed exactly as I had experienced astrally and physically.
Creepy!
ive never traveled far out into the universe but am blown away at the thought........people,please share your experiences an discoverys with us??
Quote from: Tayesin on August 27, 2009, 10:35:26
In the article they spoke about a man who way back in the 1940's or so was proposing 11 dimensions and showed his "beautiful" math as supporting the idea, of course he was shot down in flames by all those who believed they knew better than him.
I had heard and read a little on string theory but looks like you have just introduced me to M-theory??
What article were you reading and
who was this man from the 1940's?
This universe and the many universes that comprise the Multiverse appear to be far stranger than anyone can possibly imagine.
In addition to this 4 dimensional (Time-space) universe with its countless galaxies, stars, planets and life forms there are also numerous Alternate or Parallel Universes. These Alternate universes are all more or less like our universe with some differences and parallel timelines.
In addition there are also completely Different 4-dimensional Cosmological Universes where the physics (both macro - Newtonian and sub-atomic - quantum) are completely alien to our universe. Most of these universes are likely to be completely dead - devoid of all life. Yet a few universes undoubtedly are inhabited by intelligent beings.
Then consider the higher dimensions (above the 4th dimension) - the Mental plane, Astral Plane, Buddhic Plane, et al and it immediately becomes very apparent that there is an unlimited amount of space, time and knowledge beyond what is known here on Earth.
Regards 8-)
Grey
The word 'universe' refers to everything, so there can't be multiples
Yet the word has been adopted by physicists that adhere to the "Many Worlds" interpretation of Q Physics.
Hi Grey and CFT,
good to see you two still around the place.
Zareste,
The word Universe was coined well before we ever had the insight of there being more than one.
All,
Sorry, I don't have the article or the man's name from the 40's. And I have already shared my experiences here a few years back before the site changed hands. Getting too old to repeat myself endlessly folks. So maybe getting our there and exploring yourself is the way to go... much better than accepting what I have to say about it.
I'm taking a step back from forums for a while folks as it has become quite hectic and it is taking time from other things I must do now.
Be well, enjoy your life. Smile even when you don't feel like it and others will smile with you.
You can't really have insight into having more than one universe. Now we're misusing the word 'insight'
Of course.
It's not like I take a map with me, I'm in another state of mind if you don't mind me saying so.
In fact, I don't think I'm
"here"
most of the time during my travels!
In fact,
I'm almost certain I'm nowhere to be found in this universe/time.
I believe we start with ascending, many years ago. Next we succumb to the fact.
Then we meet beings.
Last we fly where EVER we wish to fly!
Last Last we make Friends!
Very Last we change things .....
Quote from: zareste on August 29, 2009, 21:10:18
You can't really have insight into having more than one universe. Now we're misusing the word 'insight'
Hi,
Okay, I see your point.
So then, we can perceive and experience there being more than one bubbleverse within the Multiverse.
How does that sit with you?
'multiverse' would still imply that there's more than one 'everything', and 'bubbleverse' - well, same problem but even more ridiculous.
Quote from: zareste on August 30, 2009, 00:53:33
'multiverse' would still imply that there's more than one 'everything', and 'bubbleverse' - well, same problem but even more ridiculous.
Ok, since you seem to be insisting on using semantics to make others 'wrong', I'll be picky in the same way.
The Word Universe, means 'one of everything', as a whole.
The word multiverse, means more than one of everything, as separate wholes.
The word universe was coined at a time when it was thought that there was only one coherent bubble of existence. Now it seems that scientists (at least some of them) are leaning towards the idea that everything is
not one coherent whole, but a series of possibly incoherent wholes. So the word universe, if the 'many worlds' paradigm is correct, is not a 'coherent whole' (that is, no 'uni').
Provided this is true, the word 'Multiverse' isn't incorrect, because in many scenarios (with different universes with different laws of physics) there is no coherent whole, or universe.
Definition of universe from Answers.com:
n.
All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space,
regarded as a whole.
The earth together with all its inhabitants and created things.
The human race.
The sphere or realm in which something exists or takes place.
Logic. See universe of discourse.
Statistics. See population (sense 5).
[Middle English, from Old French univers, from Latin ūniversum, from neuter of ūniversus, whole : ūnus, one + versus, past participle of vertere, to turn.]
So if the universe is not 'one turning globe', the term universe is dated and needs to be changed, provided we find out what it actually is.
http://www.answers.com/topic/universe
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ps. Hi there Tayesin, I forgot to say hi back.
:lol:
*waves*
Is this the way you reacted to your teachers when they tried to explain third-grade English?
Zareste,
Would you then put forward a better way to say what it is we have been discussing?
Most people don't see the problems using what terminology we have now and really aren't overly concerned with semantics.
Yes I have traveled out of the solar system, extremely far, I don't exactly know how far or to where but here is what happened.
I was dreaming regularly, I was standing in the middle of the street with two people beside me. I realized I was sleeping. I stated that I was dreaming. The person to my left I think it was told me I was not dreaming. I replied with yes I am and immediately I shot straight up into the sky. I should note that it was daytime in my dream, I shot up into the sky and then thought of my house and landed back down on the street. It was night time now. I found that interesting. I then looked up to the sky and saw a star, before I knew it I was immediately moving at speeds I have never moved before. I looked back and saw the earth. I stopped and took a look at it and it seemed to have two multicolored bands around it. I continued on past the moon and mars. I kept on going at incredible speeds until I reached what looked like a double star with a green gas giant and other planets. I was very amazed at this sight, but then thought of my house and was immediatley pulled back to the street outside my house. I then looked up in the sky again and started traveling towards another star. I did this unintentionally, the power of thought was very powerful and very quick it took me by surprise. I thought of my house again and looked up again and was again travelling towards a different star. I was literally bouncing on and off the earth several times at speeds I could never have imagined. Eventually I was able to gain some sort of control over this and started flying around my town. I remember distintcly feeling different when I was on street level and that the air seemed thicker on the street level and that it seemed harder to "hold myself together" for lack of a better term, down on the street. My body itself seemed completely different then it usually is when I project, it was like I was a pure "energy" for lack of a better term. I saw other people dreaming in the houses below me I remember thinking I had been out for a while and telling myself I had to remember this and didn;t want to forget so I reentered my body. This same scenario has 3 times in my life that I could remember.
Oh I forgot to add there is QUITE a bit of space junk around the earth!!
Hi Tayesin. Thanx for the shout out :-)
Zareste When I used the term "universe" I was refering to the 4 dimensional universe that we all inhabit. It is approximately 14 billions years old (since the Big Bang) according to most scientific calculations. I was unaware that the word universe was defined by, or implied, "refers to everything". It may be defined as such and I was unaware of it. In any case I am Not contesting your definition.
What I was pointing out is that science has posited the possibility that there are (many) other 4 dimensional 'universes' in addition to this one.
No, I can not prove it. Yet mathematicians have constructed theoretical (mathematical) models of such 'alternate' or parallel' universes. And this concept is currently accepted (as plausible theory) by many mainstream scientists.
Regards 8-)
Grey
I'm not expecting people to use the right words. In fact it's a good way to tell the difference between someone who knows their stuff, and someone who wants to appear intelligent by throwing together sciency words while having no clue what they mean
Quote from: zareste on September 04, 2009, 20:04:05
I'm not expecting people to use the right words. In fact it's a good way to tell the difference between someone who knows their stuff, and someone who wants to appear intelligent by throwing together sciency words while having no clue what they mean
Then we've got a problem, because "words" are all we have to convey the meaning of what the ideas we have are.
If you can't use the "right words"... then you're going to be very misunderstood and the problems we just encountered will happen. :)
If you have to, use laymens terms... if you can, use proper terms.
I don't see why laymen's terms have to be wrong. There can be intelligent laymen too
Maybe a detailed diagram of what you saw would help. Sometimes its easier to draw a picture than to explain it.
I think some of you should read my posts on my thread above, 'Alien Curiosity'. There might be some things that are applicable, and that could delve into a better understanding of our universe as we know it.
I'm still not done exploring this solar system to be exploring others. There's plenty of interesting things around our neck of the woods - especially if you go into fractional space/time (the past).
very intresting and insightful responses everyone!=). this topic has gotten many views in short time. please take this time now to only post replys on experiences with detail. greatly appreciated
Zareste
Here are is definition of the word "universe" provided by two (2) different dictionaries
The Free Online Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/universe
u·ni·verse (yn-vûrs)
n.
1. All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole.
2.
a. The earth together with all its inhabitants and created things.
b. The human race.
3. The sphere or realm in which something exists or takes place.
4. Logic See universe of discourse.
5. Statistics See population.
Collins English Dictionary and Thesaurus
http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-cobuild/universe
universe (universes plural )
1 n-count The universe is the whole of space and all the stars, planets, and other forms of matter and energy in it.
usu the N in sing
Early astronomers thought that our planet was the centre of the universe.
2 n-count If you talk about someone's universe, you are referring to the whole of their experience or an important part of it.
usu sing, oft with poss (=world)
Good writers suck in what they see of the world, re-creating their own universe on the page...
There are, IMO, Two possible interpretations of the definition.
1) "All matter and energy" can be interpreted as all the matter and energy that exists everywhere including this 4 dimensional time-space universe AND all other possible alternate/parallel 4 dimensional universes(s)
Or 2) "all matter and energy" that exists in this 4 dimensional universe only. Which leaves open the possibility that any other universe(s) could be labeled by a word other than universe.
Again, my point is not semantics. My point Is that when the word "universe" was first defined there did not exist (to the minds of that day) that another 4 dimensional universe could exist.
The English language (and all languages) are malleable and can be changed or amended as new information is found.
So there is no need to be dogmatic.
Grey
When it was first defined, it meant 'everything', not 'what is currently known'. So, again, the word 'universe' should refer to the universe and not 'something that exists inside the universe'.
Now, try to be logical and not dogmatic toward a certain dictionary. For example, a dimension can be called 'dimension', a bubble can be called 'bubble', the Big Bang can be called 'the Big Bang'. We already have words for these things and don't need to assign 'universe' to all of them
Question: Who cares?
This has kinda got off topic of "Astral Projection"... or even anything metaphysical for that matter.
You guys should continue this here --> http://www.nasa.gov/
:)
Quote from: zareste on August 29, 2009, 14:12:14
The word 'universe' refers to everything, so there can't be multiples
A universe is just a region in space, the entire creation is called Cosmos.
Quote from: Everlasting on September 14, 2009, 20:42:39
A universe is just a region in space, the entire creation is called Cosmos.
If you say so..
In order to better understand what the universes, cosmos, or dimensions are we are going to have to get out and explore them. Right now it's tough to define these things because we can't really see or experience anything that goes on outside our own terrestrial sphere.