Beyond the astral

[Mendel]

My favorite thing to do when I'm There besides retrievals is exploring beyond the astral.
What I'm curious is whether anyone else is interested in this, and how each one of our characterizations of these areas compare.
I could write a wall of text about this, but I'll begin by saying, beyond the astral is a breath of fresh air, both environmentally and psychologically.
Also, it is generally much harder to reach and often requires a positive state of mind (i.e. raising of vibration).

-michael

[Szaxx]

You forgot to mention no form or body as such.
An exhilarating mental state of oneness comes to mind.   

[Mendel]

I'm glad you brought that up, because that's something that I haven't tried, or at least don't remember.

[Szaxx]

Increase your vibrations as high as you can and you may find the experience commented upon. From the void get a guide to assist you. This may be a better option.

[windbreeze]

Increase your vibrations as high as you can and you may find the experience commented upon. From the void get a guide to assist you. This may be a better option.

Szaxx, how do you increase vibrations? Is it thinking of something funny?

[Mendel]

windbreeze: Try the following when you have a quiet moment. Sit in a chair and close your eyes. Now smile and mean it. Do you feel a certain energy well up for example in your heart? Through practice you can increase the energy output and spread it throughout your body. That's my way of raising vibrations. It can be practiced Here and There.

[Lionheart]

You forgot to mention no form or body as such.
An exhilarating mental state of oneness comes to mind.   

Yes this is when you just exist as a point of view.

No need to turn your head around, there isn't one.

Just a thought of that direction and it is there. 

[Szaxx]

Sometimes when you're near the exit point you can hear a ticking noise. It's loud on occasion and sounds similar to a two stroke bike engine ticking over. Should you be fortunate enough to notice this and have an exceptional awareness this sound can be manipulated by you.
It's associated with the frequency of where you are and this needs to be in your mind. In effect you are listening to the frequency of the place where your perception is at that moment.
Next step is to know as this noise is increased in frequency the more pleasant the environment will become. Theres no limit, going far higher than any normal physical hearing could detect, is easily done by a thought. This you have to be able to do to get to the places of light. My last estimation is around 3500000 hertz. Here the astral starts to dissolve into colour. A sea of yellow with flourescent colours you have never known. Get far higher if time allows and enjoy the total bliss. If lucky enough 2 seconds here is a lifetime of memories you will never forget.
Putting it into perspective. Its the ultimate experience that we can understand being  mere humans. The light and sound experience of pure emotional bliss. Words fail, you never want to return, its that empowering. It makes the physical we know seem almost pointless.
I've managed to bear witness a handful of times in nearly 50 years. Each time is different.
The highest experience was guided when I was around 9 years old, I ended up in a place of pure white light. Other entities present disliked my presence even as an innocent. No shapes or forms existed, just pure white and the feeling this environment had was superlative to any other. A oneness...
I'd guess far above the frequency of that travelled to normally.
Labels accepted.

[Mendel]

Ok. Well, we've covered the highest point one can reach which is essentially re-merging back with our Source.
What about in-between the astral and this "Point."?
I use the term "Heaven" or "mental plane" (even Focus 27) to describe it.

1) People are aware that they have passed
2) They are more open-minded than astral dwellers.
3) They are more shape-shifting into their various previous/future selves.
4) Telepathy is the main form of communication. You hear their voice, but their mouths don't move.
5) The colors are more saturated (more "colorful")
6) When you enter it, at first, sometimes time appears speeded up.

Does this sound familiar to anyone here?
And if so, what do you experience that is similar or different?

[windbreeze]

Ok. Well, we've covered the highest point one can reach which is essentially re-merging back with our Source.

The source meaning God? It is in 13th density, correct? Also, when re-emerging with God, does our consciousness disappear and becomes God's or we still retain consciousness but become part of God?

[soarin12]

Other entities present disliked my presence even as an innocent.

Do you have any knowledge as to why the other entities would dislike your presence?  You would think that for being in such a high vibrational place the beings would be a little nicer! LOL.

[Szaxx]

They knew my past and my future. I was with them all and they with me.
The fact that I was alive here was what they seemingly had a distaste of. I couldn't understand the information either. It was like everyone on this planet reading a different book at the same time and you had to learn all simultaneously word for word.
Thats why, I suppose I appeared as bacteria to them.  I'm supposed to do something in this life that's very bad. Thats the lasting prominent feeling they imprinted in me. I've done everything humanly possible to prevent this. Time will tell. 40+ years later and the imprint is still as strong and clear as back in the 60's.
Nice place though, really nice.

[windbreeze]

They knew my past and my future. I was with them all and they with me.

Did they know it before they first time saw you or they instantly read your energy seeing past lifes? Maybe they accessed Akashik records instead?

[Volgerle]

The fact that I was alive here was what they seemingly had a distaste of. I couldn't understand the information either. It was like everyone on this planet reading a different book at the same time and you had to learn all simultaneously word for word.
Thats why, I suppose I appeared as bacteria to them.  I'm supposed to do something in this life that's very bad. Thats the lasting prominent feeling they imprinted in me. I've done everything humanly possible to prevent this. Time will tell. 40+ years later and the imprint is still as strong and clear as back in the 60's.
Nice place though, really nice.

MAybe it's only your interpretation of how they saw you? It's like when a child who's done sth not allowed or naughty fears how its' parents will punish it and start to hate it for what it has done, but in fact does not know about the deep love that each parent has for their offspring naturally, regardless of what they do.

just speculating of course 

[Szaxx]

The interpretation of it didn't exist. It never has. The RTZ travels were a perfect match to that seen in the physical. Even down to broken tree branches due to a storm in the early hours. This guided trip to these places was as real as everything else. I thought everyone did it.
Heaven and hell were some of the places I wanted to see.
I saw both.

[windbreeze]

Heaven and hell were some of the places I wanted to see.
I saw both.

I thought, heaven and hell have their own dimensions and densities. How can they both be on astral plane?

[Xanth]

I thought, heaven and hell have their own dimensions and densities. How can they both be on astral plane?

My understanding is that you create your own heaven or hell upon your permanent departure from this physical reality.
They're just realities in the same sense as this physical reality is a reality.

Actually, as far as I'm concerned, everything is non-physical.  This includes this so-called physical reality.  How's that for tossing ya for a loop? 

[Szaxx]

I've travelled far and wide, the only basic difference that applies is frequency. This was called vibration in the old system.
As to where they are, does anyone know?
They appeared very real and the emotional side alone was way above what I was capable of. The rest too.
I've wanted to return but too many other places call.
My wants are greatly outdone by others needs.

Your earlier question,
The instant you are there you are one with all. They all know everything as you do too. The physical limitations we experience prevent our understanding of the info available. It's infinate.

[Volgerle]

Actually, as far as I'm concerned, everything is non-physical.  This includes this so-called physical reality.

[Xanth]

This reality we label physical, because it FEELS physical.  You can pick up an apple, touch it, taste it, see it...
Well, I've tested things in my projections just like that too, and those realities feel every bit as physical as this one.

Basically, there is no physical... there is no non-physical.  There is only consciousness.  There is only ONE.
What we experiences are realities are simply our consciousness experiencing a different perspective of that ONE.

[Lionheart]

This reality we label physical, because it FEELS physical.  You can pick up an apple, touch it, taste it, see it...
Well, I've tested things in my projections just like that too, and those realities feel every bit as physical as this one.

Basically, there is no physical... there is no non-physical.  There is only consciousness.  There is only ONE.
What we experiences are realities are simply our consciousness experiencing a different perspective of that ONE.

I am starting to see the "Sensei" in you Xanth!  

The pupil has become the teacher!  

[Volgerle]

Basically, there is no physical... there is no non-physical.  There is only consciousness.

and most of all ... not even any decent spoon ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzm8kTIj_0M

[Xanth]

LoL Thanks Lionheart. 

and most of all ... not even any decent spoon ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzm8kTIj_0M

I prefer sporks.

[Astralzombie]

This reality just happens to be the one that we are interfaced to interact with in a physical manner. I've had OOBE where "people" were scared out of their minds to see me, however much or little of me that they could.

This made me think that I was their version of what we refer to as a shadow person.

[dreamingod]

This reality we label physical, because it FEELS physical.  You can pick up an apple, touch it, taste it, see it...
Well, I've tested things in my projections just like that too, and those realities feel every bit as physical as this one.

Basically, there is no physical... there is no non-physical.  There is only consciousness.  There is only ONE.
What we experiences are realities are simply our consciousness experiencing a different perspective of that ONE.

I totally agree!

We are consciousness-energy [One]
experiencing a myriad of illusionary perspectives [maya/ matrix/ U-in-verse],
which feels real by the engagement of our virtual senses.

All is consciousness-energy.
All is one.





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