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astralee

empty your non phisical iv noticed when i donte relax my non phisical is full off stuff iv seen during the day like movies/books and tv shows, yet when im relaxed and focus its more off real time expernce with out destractions. have you noticed that aswell.

SaneSir

I've noticed visualizing movies, tv shows, and interactions I've had through the day as I relax and lay down to sleep, but, it seems to be the deeper I get the more bizzare the visualizing becomes Lol. Like trees doing acrobatics and snow falling in reverse.

astralee

Quote from: SaneSir on December 15, 2013, 15:22:02
I've noticed visualizing movies, tv shows, and interactions I've had through the day as I relax and lay down to sleep, but, it seems to be the deeper I get the more bizzare the visualizing becomes Lol. Like trees doing acrobatics and snow falling in reverse.
its know wonder we lose lucid control with all the stuff we expernce during the day comes at us destracting us.

Rakkso

It's interesting you say to relax before the attempt, I have been avoiding normal TV and news so I won't have their content and/or fictional characters imprinted out in my dreams, so I feel I can Have a cleaner/more pure experience.
But maybe if you take your time to relax and empty your mind. You will have the same experiences.
can someone try this, because I know I won't feel like watching more than a single movie.
It would be good to compare the contents in the dream of a person that spents a significant amount of time daily watching TV, and one that doesn't. And compare the contents of it.
Some significant conclusions would be drawn out of it.

astralee

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Quote from: Rakkso on December 15, 2013, 19:22:31
It's interesting you say to relax before the attempt, I have been avoiding normal TV and news so I won't have their content and/or fictional characters imprinted out in my dreams, so I feel I can Have a cleaner/more pure experience.
But maybe if you take your time to relax and empty your mind. You will have the same experiences.
can someone try this, because I know I won't feel like watching more than a single movie. this is what im doing now i do feel more focused than  normal dreams where after i watch  films or  playing my ps3.
It would be good to compare the contents in the dream of a person that spents a significant amount of time daily watching TV, and one that doesn't. And compare the contents of it.
Some significant conclusions would be drawn out of it.
i do feel more focused in the non phisical when i spend more time relaxing than watching tv

Szaxx

Disconnection from the physical includes all thoughts too. When you think of the daily scenes you are still tieing yourself down.
Try to think of something related to the NP. This is why the safe place and more are mentioned constantly by many as an aid to break free of the physical ties.
Lot's of other methods revolve around no connection.
Rolling the energy body off the bed, climbing a rope or ladder, swaying side to side, floating up or through the bed to name a few. These ALL involve thoughts that are non physical and they occupy your mind enough to make progress into the NP.
You leave the physical behind effectively.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.