Blue forceshield

[kakkarot]

tried attacking or circumventing the shield? (probably yes, and if so, can you say how? it would help [].)

try pushing against it so that you're forcing yourself backwards ... [|)] i don't know what to say. sometimes while i'm meditating i'll "shrink" into my head, and i usually just sink further into my self (i mean to do it) and into a part of myself. haven't been successful in getting OUT of my body though.

oh well, hopefully someone can help you better than i am trying to [].

~kakkarot

[kromeknight]

Thanks Kakkarot for your reply[]
I haven't thought of attacking it or moving away from it because I thought it was part of me ,
simular to the aura. Next time I'm in this situation I will try moving deeper into myself but
very slowly I don't really want to see all my internal organs, if that is even possible. The
clarity of vision of the inside of eye lids makes me a little nervous. I might try moving up and
through my crown chakra or skip all the sensations of leaving my body and go for intent of
destination. As this has happened twice on my last successful attempts at AP / OBE I think it
is a progression and not really a brick wall to over come. To be honest the idea of being an
orb of blue light travelling around in realtime OBE or into the astral realms  is kind of cool.
I'm not sure if I can proceed to deeper levels/ focus harder as I fill I have succeed in
separation and are now looking for ways to explore this exciting state of freedom.
Thanks again Kakkarot  you have given me some ideas  to investigate.[]

[Greytraveller]

Just a thought here but  -  many people who claim to see auras say that most auras are blue in color. So maybe what you saw was an extension of your own aura. Since you were apparently nearly ready to have an OBE it could be that your aura was 'looser' or farther out from your physical body.  [?]

[kromeknight]

Thanks Greytraveller I didn't know that people claim auras to be blue. Interesting concept seeing my own  aura but it was compacted within my body around my consciouness, perhaps that is my I could see it. great input thanks[]

[Fat_Turkey]

Perhaps you're trapped within your own mental body? Just a thought

Later
-FT

[kromeknight]

I don't not if your trying to funny FT.  I posted my experience to see if anyone else has come across it and how  they have learned from the experience. I would have thought a forum with open minded and expereinced people could answer my simple question. I will draw some comfort from the fact that I have experienced something  rare and maybe post indepth on it as I gain more knowledge by experience.
I maybe a new member here and I do like reading most of the post/replys of other members as they are helpful and bring to light some interesting views/opinions. FT can you give a more indepth reply or reframe from replying altogether....just a thought!!

[Fat_Turkey]

I wasn't trying to crack a funny - I was running out of time and had to leave.

Allow me to explain. I am more of a researcher and I study mainly case histories from books and situations of people online. I don't have much hands-on experience but I'm working on that. All I can do is speculate and theorise - and I'm usually wrong.

What I meant by being trapped in your mental body was that either your mental body wasn't moving with the Real-Time body proper, or that your awareness is inside your mental body and you're not used to moving it or have projected to a higher realm to "quickly."

Again I wasn't trying to crack a funny I was just trying to suggest something that maybe others who were more experienced in OBE than I am could think about. I don't think I deserved to be mocked and I'm sorry if I can't help. I was just trying to suggest something that could raise some thought.

-FT

[kromeknight]

fat turkey I am sorry if I got the wrong impression from your reply but as you might know OBE's and the astral plans are topics that most people think is occult(in ignorance) or wiered so finding a forum to share and gain knowledge about what we are experiencing is important to me.  Thank you for taking the time to reply and good luck with your experiences []

[Fat_Turkey]

Good luck to you as well[]

I don't regard OBE as being occult - that's a sad mistake too many people make. The astral dimension actually came into my life sometime after I got into energy work, and before I understood anything about the Astral I was a naive moron who believed in ki blasts and the such.

I have Astral Dynamics and the only obstacle I need to clear is having a clear mind - which is progressing nicely.

Later
-FT

[lyn92]

I have on many occasions seen blue lightning streaks before I OBE and during my OBE. I have wondered if it was my aura or some type of magnetic energy I was producing when I am astral travelling, my aura with someone elses aura. I still don't know. But if I close my eyes and see the blue streaks I will focus on the light and "follow" it and this seems to always lead to an OBE. The blue lights started six months ago.

When I OBE I will have astral sight and be totally conscious of my physical body at the same time. If I can't turn off the astral sight then I continue to look deep into the "crown area" and this usually takes me to an OBE.


so sounds like your close

good luck, Lyn92

[kromeknight]

umm  Fat turkey I haven't read the A.dynamices on this site yet or the techniques that most people refer to so I am naive, but with the  possative posts about it, I'm sure your efforts will pay off soon. I have awaken in dreams many times into the astral realms and real time astral flying around my mothers house... or I should really start to think of those as OBE'S. It wasn't until I found Sweet Celestial Sounds msn home page that I started actively  practising OBE/astral projection , that was seven weeks ago  and I'm lucky to have so many new experiences in such a short time. Sadly he no longer has the home page so I guess you all have my attentchion as I look for guidance and cofirmation to my experiences.thanks again Fat Turkey for your help.[]

Lyn thank you for replying I'm so glad you have experienced this too I didn't wont people thinking I made it up and I'm very encourage by your experiences thank you []

[Greytraveller]

To FAt Turkey
Quote >>>Allow me to explain. I am more of a researcher and I study mainly case histories from books and situations of people online. I don't have much hands-on experience but I'm working on that. All I can do is speculate and theorise - and I'm usually wrong<<<<

It's quite interesting to read that you have a similar interest. I have been 'collecting' accounts of OBEs (and NDEs) off the internet for about a year now. To date I have copied and pasted about 1,000 reports of OBEs, astral projections, ethereal projections and NDEs. These are for personal, non-commercial use so I can build up a data base of these experiences.
If you are interested then I can provide a list of website URLs where these OBE reports can be found. Just send me a private message or an email.

[kromeknight]

Hello everyone
I am new to OBE's but I have experienced Astral projection and are practising a simple
technique of meditation and visualization with great success so far. In short I've had body
parts float while in trance.
I would like some feedback on my last two experiences, I used the advance search and can't
find any matching words to my question.
While in trance I hear and fill the point of separation, my awareness becomes clear and I
know I have separated but I am still in my body as like in a shell. I do not fill my physical
body nor my Astral body. I see a blue electrical shield across my vision and see my eye lids
beyond. It is like I shrunk to a small ball inside my head and can measure the distance to my
eye lids about 30cm. The blue electrical shield  sparks but with tails like comets in constant  
motion all around me but I see only forwards /up at my eye lids. I have tried to rolled and I fill
the sensation of this but then come to full physical body awareness, though my body  is heavy
I do not black out. My question is have many people had this/ and how do I proceed to leave
my body being a ball of light. Oh and I am very aware while in this state to try anything.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated
thanks